Riverdale

Feb. 8th, 2017 10:08 pm
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Too many tv shows, plus Netflix and Amazon, not enough time...

Anyhow, watched the premiere of Riverdale. What is Riverdale about, well...it's


Twin Peaks




Meets..

Archie Comics and Josie and the Pussycats (which did a bunch of cartoons in the 1960s, that I watched as a kid in the 1970s, and have a vague memory of..., the comics, I never read.)









I kid you now, it literally is Twin Peaks meets Archie Comics. We have all the kids from Archie Comics transposed into Twin Peaks.

So far, sort of entertaining. Held my attention. Few things do these days. Although Archie's makeup is distracting me. The makeup artist is overdoing the furrowed brow and heavy eyebrows. Also, I can tell they died the actors hair bright red. Other than that, I am entertained, particularly by a 50 something Luke Perry and Madchen Amick.







Have to say, Riverdale improves on the 1960 era Archie cartoons. And the mash up sort of works. Not perfect, by a long shot, a bit too quippy in places, and I'm not sure certain things quite work.
But it does for the most part avoid cliche, and the Betty/Archie/Veronica love triangle is sort of killed before it starts. Archie's too busy swooning over and banging his music teacher to care.
Although Veronica obviously intrigues him.

The Twin Peaks twist on each character is rather intriguing. Although, I more or less figured out the plot points before they happened, it did have a few nice surprises here and there. Betty's mother, who is obsessed with perfection and somewhat bullying. And Veronica's poor little rich girl, who Dad is facing embezzlement charges. While Jughead narrates the affair, typing away on a computer at Pops. Meanwhile Josie and Pussycats are an African-American Power Trio Band, with a statement, also the daughter of the mayor. Reggie is a bit of an asshole football player, and Moose - in the closet, homosexual, involved with the Sheriff's son, whose Betty's best bud. Meanwhile there's a dead body in the river, this round a boy's -- a nice change of pace that. And ...it appears, his sultry twin sister did it. OR did she? That's the kids, the parents have their own...issues.


There's a bit of Beverly Hills 90210 and the O/C thrown in there for good measure. But mostly it's just Twin Peaks meets Archie Comics.

Date: 2017-02-09 04:23 pm (UTC)
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I heard a few years ago that the Archie comics had gone serious. I can't imagine why they didn't come up with different characters for the same thing. The TV series is just an add on to that.

I remember Josie and the Pussycats as just about the most annoying cartoon on Saturday morning when I was home from college. There must have been something on right after it that I wanted to watch, because I kept seeing bits of it. For the right audience I'm sure it was fine. It was not much worse than The Monkees from when I was in high school. But I didn't like that either. ;o)

All we need now is a gritty war drama starring Beetle Bailey, Killer, Sgt. Snorkel, General Halftrack and, of course, the true hero, Otto the dog.

Date: 2017-02-09 06:11 pm (UTC)
yourlibrarian: Natasha Romanoff in B&W (AVEN-NatashaB&W-hsapiens.png)
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Have to agree with you about Archie's hair and makeup being distracting. I am very in favor of diverse casting but if you're going to insist on Archie being a redhead, which makes it highly likely he's of Celtic descent, then picking someone of a different ethnicity for the role is not a great choice. I don't care if they raceswap the entire cast, as long as they let the actors look like themselves. I'm guessing they didn't find a lot of hunky redheads out there of the right age but really, maybe one's definition of hunk could be broader or he simply didn't need to be written that way at all.

I found the second episode less interesting than the pilot, too much soap stuff in it, not enough mystery. Plus I'm really peeved at how they're writing the affair with Miss Grundy. Given he's a sophomore, she's not only never going to work as an educator again (which, given she's a music teacher, really reduces her options) but she'll likely end up on a sexual offenders list even if she doesn't face criminal charges, which is also going to do her no favors in employment nor in housing. The idea that her being fired from this particular job (which is bad enough) is the sticking point is ludicrous.

Date: 2017-02-10 03:38 pm (UTC)
yourlibrarian: Angel and Lindsey (BUF-JustKissSpangel-ruuger)
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That's a good point regarding what state it's set in, though I'm gathering it's in upstate NY given Veronica's backstory. I didn't realize his age had been established but it seems old to me for a sophomore. Then again, I went to college at 16 so all through high school my teachers seemed much older than me, even though looking back some of them were quite young and 2 were just out of college themselves when they started teaching.

I agree about the gun shot. I think the key issue is establishing time of death but as you say, there are various reasons a gun might have been fired. And given the way the last episode ended it seems likely that the irrelevancy of what they heard will be made clear.

Also, if Grundy is frantic about Archie turning up at her house, practically kissing in her music room so that Jughead can see them seems rather careless.

Date: 2017-02-11 06:48 pm (UTC)
yourlibrarian: Anya in a bunny suit (BUF-HalloweenAnyaBunny - thedothatgirl.p)
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The whole 17 thing also rather contradicts Archie's story to Veronica about Betty telling him to ask her to marry him again once they're grown up. Unless she figured they should date a little first, who knows. Like you said about the music room, contrived.

Actually Sarah was 19 but younger, yes, especially compared to Charisma.

No, my age didn't really make any difference -- except it meant I got out of school sooner ;) I pretty much finished growing at 12 so the real difference came more in 3rd and 4th grades not later. I think it would be harder for boys because their growth spurts tend to come later and make more of a difference for things like sports activities. (One area where I guess Archie's changes do make more sense since the sophomore year generally is key to that -- plus the whole thing about JV vs varsity teams)

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