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1. Started reading Whedon's Wonder Woman Script last night and...bwa- ha-ha-ha.. And not in a good way or rather I don't think its intentional. I can see why he had writer's block. He no idea what he was doing.

In fact I wondered for a moment or two there if I had the right script. It has Silver Pictures as a watermark, and starts with Steve Trevor going down in plane over a mysterious island. A "girl" pulls the plane door open, she's insanely beautiful, in an elemental way, and her shift that she is wearing is from another era, we'll call it Greek.
[And I'm getting flashbacks of the 1970s Wonder Woman television movie and series starring Lynda Carter.]

It is funny though. But weirdly amateurish so far, not at all what I was expecting.

Not that far into it. Steve's gotten out of the plane, been tied up, and taken prisoner by Diana and her companions.

So how's the movie? I'd like to see it. Maybe this weekend or next.

Wonder Woman admittedly has an odd history. The character and story was originated by William Moulton Marston a psychologist and feminist who...well created her as a sort of dominatrix, hence the lasso and the outfit. She first appeared in comics in 1941. Like Superman and Captain America, she first appeared in the comics during WWII, literally during WWII, not years later in WWII stories.

2. Lucifer Season Finale.

I can't believe they killed the baby grand piano. I liked that piano. And he'd just gotten it tuned and everything!

Other than that, it was a kick-ass season finale with a cliff-hanger that surprised me. I did not see that coming. I like Lucifer in part because it's unpredictable. Most of these types of series are predictable...this is one isn't. And they make fun of Christian mythos. And I love the characters.

Damn, I'm going to miss this show. After that cliff-hanger, I don't want to wait for the fall. I rewound it twice. Debating deleting it from DVR, because I actually have rewatched segments of it before. Lucifer has great season finales.



* Interesting how they got rid of Mum but kept the actress playing her. I didn't expect that, because I thought Charlotte herself, was dead not just possessed. Also, having Mum go into another dimension where she can give birth to her own universe and world, was a great idea. Go forward, Lucifer said, not backward. This way there are no casualties, no one gets hurt and she gets her fresh start. He also protects the human race from her wrath and any war she might cause.

Shows growth on Lucifer's part -- instead of throwing his mother into heaven with his father and letting them go to war, screw the consequences, in a juvenile pique, he chose to a third choice. He couldn't keep her one earth. He couldn't send her to hell, He couldn't send her to heaven. And he couldn't kill her. So he sends her to a new dimension.

Then Charlotte, after Mum leaves, wakes up and wonders what she is doing on the beach and why Lucifer called her Mum and who the hell Detective Dan is. (Will she still be a character?)

* Amandial -- still has some growing to do. He no longer feels rejected or like he's just a pawn to his father. But his inability to see past that to what is going on around him emphasizes his flaws. This was somewhat amusing, but also irritating. DB Woodside's blissful smile was hilarious...when he discovers, oh, I'm the favored, he trusted me with the key! And his bro moment with Detective Dan, who he places the key with for safe keeping. I loved how Lucifer found it on Dan.

Also the whole improv things...where Amandail, thinks he can work out his problems "literally" during improv, by discussing Daddy. Except his Dad is God, so that sort of breaks the religious rules of the group.

Hee.

Audience member: "Do two zookeepers trying to catch a giraffe...
Amandial playing one of the zookeepers to the other one: "How can you expect me to kill my father now?"

Dan: Uh, no.
Amandail: I thought you said this is how you worked out your issues?

But he does redeem himself, by finding a way to freeze time -- which saves Doctor Linda, who Mum almost killed in her attempt to obtain information. Linda's devotion to Lucifer is rather impressive. Having the goddess of creation torture me or have a glass a wine with her and tell her everything? I'd have gone for the wine. Lucifer isn't worth it.

And manages to save everyone else, because Lucifer manages to get Mum out of the shootout between Dan, Chloe and the bad guy, and to the other dimension, without anyone noticing. Thank you, Amandail. He also disposes of the nasty flaming sword by throwing it through the dimensional porthole which Mum voluntarily went through. But keeps Amandial's key separate.

* Lucifer also makes strides, he goes to thank Linda, and is remorseful, showing he truly cares for her. Then he gets an epithany of sorts, and decides it is time to tell Chloe everything, to show her his true face. But alas, is suddenly knocked out.

Then, and this part surprised me...he wakes up in the desert, sunburnt, shirtless, with his wings restored. Looking rightly confused and pissed off.

By the way? Tom Ellis is hot. Particularly when he's roughened up a bit. Although that sunburn looked really painful. So he'd clearly been there a while. I did wonder, however, why he was sunburnt. Isn't Lucifer invulnerable to the elements? So did they give him back his wings but take away his invulnerability?

Does Amandail have his time trick back? I really hope so. I liked the time trick.

I do love how these characters have evolved and developed emotionally through their relationships with each other.


Overall? Great finale. No quibbles. I even found the mystery of the week entertaining, although lately it's been firmly in the background. This week it was sort of surprising, because it was firmly in the background with the focus more on Lucifer and his dysfunctional family.

Re: Wonder Woman

Date: 2017-06-02 03:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cjlasky7
As you could probably tell from my post of the 24th, I am also interested in this motion picture.

Would you like to see it with me on Saturday (at the theater of your choice)?

Re: Wonder Woman

Date: 2017-06-02 03:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cjlasky7
Let's do the UA Court. It's a behemoth, but it's well-maintained and the seating is comfortable.

Tomorrow afternoon would be fine.

Would you like standard 2-d (2:40 or 6:00)

Or fancy schmancy 3-d (1:20 or 3:40)?

Re: Wonder Woman

Date: 2017-06-02 09:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cjlasky7
2:30 at the UA Court it is. Will buy tix online. If you want to leave an email, my email address hasn't changed in 20 years.

(Hm. Maybe that's not something to brag about.)
Edited Date: 2017-06-02 09:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-06-02 04:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rahirah
I really enjoyed it. Lucifer using the sword to cut his way out of the universe is a neat callback to the comics that this show is loosely (VERY loosely) based on (though in the comics, that was the end of the series -- Lucifer went through the hole himself and flew away, never to be seen again.)

Date: 2017-06-02 09:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shapinglight
Lucifer went through the hole himself and flew away, never to be seen again.

Until he returns in the new series by Holly Black and Lee Garbett, which is actually pretty good. ;)
Edited Date: 2017-06-02 09:48 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-06-02 09:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shapinglight
I also very much liked Lucifer's way of dealing with his mother. It was a bit of a shout out to the comics, in that he creates his own universe in those - something showrunner Joe Henderson has said he will never do in the show (for budgetary reasons if nothing else, I suppose). Henderson also confirmed that Tricia Helfer will still be in the show in season 3 as Charlotte. Not sure how that's going to work at the moment. Hopefully, they can do something good with it.

Date: 2017-06-02 01:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cactuswatcher
That's the Wonder Woman origin story precisely as it stood in the 1950s when I first saw a Wonder Woman comic. The Lynda Carter version was that way for a reason. If it seems lame, remember comics were just for kids till well into the 1970s, and the Superman movie of 1978 was the first Hollywood attempt to sell harder to young adults. (That film's sequels got progressively worse because they forgot who they were targeting with the first one, and reverted to stories fit only for kids!)
Edited Date: 2017-06-02 01:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-06-02 06:06 pm (UTC)
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I plan to post tomorrow about the new film and any contrasting to Whedon's script now that I've got that review done. I saw a Den of Geek post today that talked about the script in a very surface way but did bring up one interesting point about Diana and the way she's portrayed as privileged in the Whedon script which is both very relevant atm and also very different in depictions of heroes (even when it's enormously clear, such as for Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne).

I also thought the Lucifer finale worked well.

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