But it was a very safe film in any number of ways, whereas Joss was not going for either safe or likable which is a very different approach (not to mention setting and plot).
True. But. Not in others. (I've seen the negative reviews from the sexist fan faction who can't handle the movie.) Also it's very anti-War, which is a risky in some respects. The Wonder Woman movie unlike Whedon's movie had a different agenda...which was to discuss WAR and the pitfalls of it in a way that did not alienate their audience (action movie fans). And to well show how powerful women can be...again in a way that would not alienate the core audience.
Superhero films are expensive. So you can't really take the same risks that you can with other movies. Also they had two back to back critical failures in the franchise and needed a win desperately. People think Christopher Nolan took risks with the Batman franchise, but he really didn't. Actually none of them really have, most of the risks have been done on TV, and barely.
It's not a genre you can easily take risks in. The ones that do, are either low-budget or under the wire...oddly, I think the comics can take more risks than the movies can, due to the nature of the medium, it's audience, and marketing profile.
I liked the movie better than you did, but I couldn't get through Whedon's script. After twenty pages, I gave up. The dialogue disappointed me and go on my nerves. It felt juvenile and stilted. People don't talk like that. I'm picky about dialogue and had started reading it for the dialogue and found the dialogue to be horrifically bad. While the dialogue in the movie worked for me. (Gets back to my earlier point about what we bring to the reading. People have rec'd books to me online that I can't make it through because I dislike the dialogue or writing style, yet it worked for them. One person stated that the writing in a book was clear and crisp, I found it flowery and meandering with juvenile dialogue, and thought, okay...are we reading the same book? (shrugs). No, we just think and process information differently.)
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Date: 2017-06-18 01:49 pm (UTC)True. But. Not in others. (I've seen the negative reviews from the sexist fan faction who can't handle the movie.) Also it's very anti-War, which is a risky in some respects. The Wonder Woman movie unlike Whedon's movie had a different agenda...which was to discuss WAR and the pitfalls of it in a way that did not alienate their audience (action movie fans). And to well show how powerful women can be...again in a way that would not alienate the core audience.
Superhero films are expensive. So you can't really take the same risks that you can with other movies. Also they had two back to back critical failures in the franchise and needed a win desperately. People think Christopher Nolan took risks with the Batman franchise, but he really didn't. Actually none of them really have, most of the risks have been done on TV, and barely.
It's not a genre you can easily take risks in. The ones that do, are either low-budget or under the wire...oddly, I think the comics can take more risks than the movies can, due to the nature of the medium, it's audience, and marketing profile.
I liked the movie better than you did, but I couldn't get through Whedon's script. After twenty pages, I gave up. The dialogue disappointed me and go on my nerves. It felt juvenile and stilted. People don't talk like that. I'm picky about dialogue and had started reading it for the dialogue and found the dialogue to be horrifically bad. While the dialogue in the movie worked for me.
(Gets back to my earlier point about what we bring to the reading. People have rec'd books to me online that I can't make it through because I dislike the dialogue or writing style, yet it worked for them. One person stated that the writing in a book was clear and crisp, I found it flowery and meandering with juvenile dialogue, and thought, okay...are we reading the same book?
(shrugs). No, we just think and process information differently.)