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shadowkat ([personal profile] shadowkat) wrote 2017-06-16 05:05 pm (UTC)

You could almost say you can see that happening at the moment with the individual U.S. states responding to the Paris climate change agreement. Each state is essentially becoming a commoner management group for its own energy generation, and can proceed to conserve regardless of what its neighbours are doing.

Well, no. Not exactly. The States that aren't responding have strict environmental regulations in effect that prevent businesses and individuals from using certain fuels. Frakking is outlawed in some of these states. Coal has been outlawed in NYC for quite some time. Businesses and residences that use solar and/or energy saving appliances and devices receive tax abatements.

NYC and NY State have Environmental Protection Agencies who regulate their territories.

NYC and NY State are considered the most socialist of the States, and we are more capitalistic than you are. But we have many government regulations in place. I work for a railroad which is government owned and funded through state and federal funding. If it were privatized, over 5,000 people would lose their jobs, their salaries would decrease, they'd lose their pensions, their retirement benefits, etc. I'd be in the situation you were afraid of happening to you. That is if we did what Trump and various conservatives would like to do which is privatize everything.

To my knowledge the closest thing we have to a fair market Capitalistic model is China, which has almost no regulations in place economically. (Note there is a big difference between social regulations and economic ones, people often confuse them and bundle them together. A lot of allegedly "communist" countries aren't truly communist.)

The UK is actually not a free-market Capitalist group of countries. You have various organizations that are state owned. You can be part of the market and have state owned organizations.

I do agree however that if everything is "state owned" it won't work. But equally it does not work if everything is privatized. Trump wants to privatize the Air Traffic Controllers, which would be a disaster, because it would be impossible to regulate them on safety issues. That's what happened with the airline industry.

I've seen Capitalism -- pure Capitalism at work and it is not a nice system. (Three lay-offs, because of Capitalism becoming unhinged. No, we require financial regulations. We need the Fed to set interest rates. Ayn Rand's vision of a pure free-market Capitalist society, where everything is privatized, and the stock market is unregulated is not a good idea.)


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