Wow! I did not know any of that. If even a quarter of it is true, it further complicates the whole issue. It seems as if ATS was extremely toxic all around. That said, it doesn't let Whedon off the hook for his own bad behaviour. It also raises the question of how much was bad behaviour was the studio (or studios) willing to allow or just ignore in order to profit from the show. It makes me question the official line of ATS being cancelled because it did poorly in reruns.
I still think that trying to destroy a character because you personally don't like an actress is not ideal behaviour. I also don't think that diva/bad behaviour deserves to be punished by further bad behaviour.
I also don't think that fandom should be out there destroying Whedon or his work. To the best of my knowledge, he's been accused of being a terrble boss, who has said terrible and demeaning things, who was toxic to work with for some people and allowed for a toxic workplace to flourish. And it sounds like he did all of this with the studio's backing. The situation is a little more nuanced than it appears. People that are picking apart his work are failing to understand that his body of work was influenced by common tropes in the genres, by what the studio(s) wanted, and by other players (i.e. other writers, producers, directors, etc). I truly feel that we've never going to know the full truth of what happened and who allowed for it all to happen. I think that tearing apart BtvS, Ats or his other shows/movies/projects, tends to over-simplify things. It's one thing to point out that quite a bit of "his work" can be problematic and that as the titular head of those projects, he could have done better. However, I think the whole mess is just far too nuanced for fans to be sitting there and extrapolating that Whedon must be terrible or the allegations are true because if you look at BtVS and AtS there are problematic issues with the shows.
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Wow! I did not know any of that. If even a quarter of it is true, it further complicates the whole issue. It seems as if ATS was extremely toxic all around. That said, it doesn't let Whedon off the hook for his own bad behaviour. It also raises the question of how much was bad behaviour was the studio (or studios) willing to allow or just ignore in order to profit from the show. It makes me question the official line of ATS being cancelled because it did poorly in reruns.
I still think that trying to destroy a character because you personally don't like an actress is not ideal behaviour. I also don't think that diva/bad behaviour deserves to be punished by further bad behaviour.
I also don't think that fandom should be out there destroying Whedon or his work. To the best of my knowledge, he's been accused of being a terrble boss, who has said terrible and demeaning things, who was toxic to work with for some people and allowed for a toxic workplace to flourish. And it sounds like he did all of this with the studio's backing. The situation is a little more nuanced than it appears. People that are picking apart his work are failing to understand that his body of work was influenced by common tropes in the genres, by what the studio(s) wanted, and by other players (i.e. other writers, producers, directors, etc). I truly feel that we've never going to know the full truth of what happened and who allowed for it all to happen. I think that tearing apart BtvS, Ats or his other shows/movies/projects, tends to over-simplify things. It's one thing to point out that quite a bit of "his work" can be problematic and that as the titular head of those projects, he could have done better. However, I think the whole mess is just far too nuanced for fans to be sitting there and extrapolating that Whedon must be terrible or the allegations are true because if you look at BtVS and AtS there are problematic issues with the shows.