I think one hindrance for me is that I'm 5'10" and big boned and so reading his private thought insults of Brienne frequently has me wanting her to kick him in the nuts. So I tend to think of him as certainly not without positive qualities... but still kind of an asshole...which in this set of books still leaves him as one of the more likable characters.
Hee. I get that. I'm 6 foot and big boned (also, ahem, a little overweight - will not release by how much). Waves!! Although I do have a bust, I don't believe Brienne does - she's completely flat chested.
Yeah, his reaction to Brienne was annoying, but keep in mind the man's idea of beauty is Cersei - he does begin to change his mind. Have you gotten to the bit where he sends Brienne on her quest?
And he does do quite a few things for Brienne that well, WTF does come to mind. That whole bear bit threw me. As does what he does for her later - which he really didn't have to do. Would have been a lot easier if he hadn't. He goes against Tywin and Cersei in the end, which is really interesting.
Oh - I'm nothing like your friend - I liked Spike when he lost his edge. Jamie also loses his edge. The two characters have remarkably similar arcs.
I'm not necessarily in love with Jamie, but he did surprise me as a character. Much like Spike did. The reason I enjoy both characters is they start out as boiler-plate bad guys - the villain that you love to hate, and then, slowly are revealed to be a)not quite that black and white or straight up villain, b) it makes sense how they became that monster, and c) are, surprise, surprise, capable of doing insanely heroic and honorable things that are still completely in character. I find these types of characters far more interesting than characters like Ned Stark, Robb Stark, Jon Snow or Dany Taragyrn, who don't really change all that much and are pretty much what you thought they were at the start. In short characters that start out one way, and then suddenly turn out to be something else - I find really interesting - particularly if they are written well. Because that is really hard to pull off effectively. It's actually a lot easier to write the Tyrions and Jon Snow's who are more constant.
I admittedly have weird kinks. I like prickley characters with broad arcs. I remember fighting with people on Spike - they found his snark mean, I thought it hilarious. Same thing with Jamie - I find his comments funny...partly because he's so undercut by the text. His ideal female is Cersei...LOL!!! Boy does he change his mind.
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Hee. I get that. I'm 6 foot and big boned (also, ahem, a little overweight - will not release by how much). Waves!! Although I do have a bust, I don't believe Brienne does - she's completely flat chested.
Yeah, his reaction to Brienne was annoying, but keep in mind the man's idea of beauty is Cersei - he does begin to change his mind.
Have you gotten to the bit where he sends Brienne on her quest?
And he does do quite a few things for Brienne that well, WTF does come to mind. That whole bear bit threw me. As does what he does for her later - which he really didn't have to do. Would have been a lot easier if he hadn't. He goes against Tywin and Cersei in the end, which is really interesting.
Oh - I'm nothing like your friend - I liked Spike when he lost his edge. Jamie also loses his edge. The two characters have remarkably similar arcs.
I'm not necessarily in love with Jamie, but he did surprise me as a character. Much like Spike did. The reason I enjoy both characters is they start out as boiler-plate bad guys - the villain that you love to hate, and then, slowly are revealed to be a)not quite that black and white or straight up villain, b) it makes sense how they became that monster, and c) are, surprise, surprise, capable of doing insanely heroic and honorable things that are still completely in character. I find these types of characters far more interesting than characters like Ned Stark, Robb Stark, Jon Snow or Dany Taragyrn, who don't really change all that much and are pretty much what you thought they were at the start. In short characters that start out one way, and then suddenly turn out to be something else - I find really interesting - particularly if they are written well. Because that is really hard to pull off effectively. It's actually a lot easier to write the Tyrions and Jon Snow's who are more constant.
I admittedly have weird kinks. I like prickley characters with broad arcs. I remember fighting with people on Spike - they found his snark mean, I thought it hilarious. Same thing with Jamie - I find his comments funny...partly because he's so undercut by the text. His ideal female is Cersei...LOL!!! Boy does he change his mind.