they've managed to make no 31 (Joss's January issue) look quite interesting. Mind you, that's happened before and the promise wasn't fulfilled
Really? All I heard was that Twilight would be revealed in Brad Metzler's run - which probably means 32.
But you are right...we've been promised stuff before. (the problem may be similar to season 7 - our expectations are higher than the story can deliver. I'm starting to set my expectations much much lower.)
Also, I too felt that Joss didn't have a clue what to do with Wolverine. Wolverine, imo, just isn't the sort of character that appeals to him. A bit like Spike and Angel, in fact.
I thought that at first, but when I consider the interviews and Whedon's work - I think it's more a case of not having anything more to add or say regarding a specific character.
Wolverine as Whedon correctly pointed out - has been overwritten - or over-exposed. There's very little that hasn't been said about the character. I think he liked the character (enough that he coincidentally gave Spike and Angel respectively attributes), but he felt there was nothing new he could say about him. The only thing he could think of - he did. (I get that, it is very hard to write about a character that has been over-written). Also there was a point in which Marvel was putting Wolvie in every single comic regardless of whether or not it made sense.
On Spike and Angel - I actually think Whedon adored Spike. He gave him some of the best lines and the best arc. Created the William persona in Fool for Love (that portion Whedon wrote - from interviews and commentary, Petrie did mostly the Riley scenes and some of the fight sequences/present sequences, Whedon did the flashbacks, and Marti the porch scene), created the speeches in Hole in the World and Beneath You, as well as Chosen. Also wrote the scene between Spike and Buffy in Hell's Bells. And he begged Marsters to join Angel. (That wasn't just WB, Whedon pitched it). As for Angel? He pitched the Angel series with Greenwalt. His difficulty with Angel - was that he'd written the character as a straight up noir hero - which again has been to an extent over-written. Malcolm Reynolds - he struggled with as well, for similar reasons. They were characters he'd grown tired of. I think in some respects he enjoyed Spike more - because Spike was a trickster character that defined himself as Whedon wrote him - he wasn't pre-planned.
I think the reason he's reluctant to revisit the characters isn't that they don't appeal, they obviously do on some level - or he wouldn't have picked up and read Lynch's Spike comics. I think it's more that they don't fit the story he's telling yet or that he doesn't have anything to say about them at the moment. That may or may not change. (shrugs). I know I have similar issues with stories that I've written. I have a novel that desperately needs selling to publishers and I'm bored with it, read it too many times. And it would probably be more sellable if I could write a sequel...but the characters just aren't speaking to me for some reason. I think Whedon may or may not be in a similar place with Spike and Angel, they aren't speaking to him, while Buffy and Willow still are.
That said? I have a hunch Spike and/or Angel will pop up in Whedon's comics before the season is over. Probably closer to issue 40 - which at this rate, unfortunately, may not be until 2011.
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Really? All I heard was that Twilight would be revealed in Brad Metzler's run - which probably means 32.
But you are right...we've been promised stuff before.
(the problem may be similar to season 7 - our expectations are higher than the story can deliver. I'm starting to set my expectations much much lower.)
Also, I too felt that Joss didn't have a clue what to do with Wolverine. Wolverine, imo, just isn't the sort of character that appeals to him. A bit like Spike and Angel, in fact.
I thought that at first, but when I consider the interviews and Whedon's work - I think it's more a case of not having anything more to add or say regarding a specific character.
Wolverine as Whedon correctly pointed out - has been overwritten - or over-exposed. There's very little that hasn't been said about the character. I think he liked the character (enough that he coincidentally gave Spike and Angel respectively attributes), but he felt there was nothing new he could say about him. The only thing he could think of - he did. (I get that, it is very hard to write about a character that has been over-written). Also there was a point in which Marvel was putting Wolvie in every single comic regardless of whether or not it made sense.
On Spike and Angel - I actually think Whedon adored Spike. He gave him some of the best lines and the best arc. Created the William persona in Fool for Love (that portion Whedon wrote - from interviews and commentary, Petrie did mostly the Riley scenes and some of the fight sequences/present sequences, Whedon did the flashbacks, and Marti the porch scene), created
the speeches in Hole in the World and Beneath You, as well as Chosen. Also wrote the scene between Spike and Buffy in Hell's Bells. And he begged Marsters to join Angel. (That wasn't just WB, Whedon pitched it). As for Angel? He pitched the Angel series with Greenwalt.
His difficulty with Angel - was that he'd written the character as a straight up noir hero - which again has been to an extent over-written. Malcolm Reynolds - he struggled with as well, for similar reasons. They were characters he'd grown tired of. I think in some respects he enjoyed Spike more - because Spike was a trickster character that defined himself as Whedon wrote him - he wasn't pre-planned.
I think the reason he's reluctant to revisit the characters isn't that they don't appeal, they obviously do on some level - or he wouldn't have picked up and read Lynch's Spike comics. I think it's more that they don't fit the story he's telling yet or
that he doesn't have anything to say about them at the moment. That may or may not change. (shrugs). I know I have similar issues with stories that I've written.
I have a novel that desperately needs selling to publishers and I'm bored with it, read it too many times. And it would probably be more sellable if I could write a sequel...but the characters just aren't speaking to me for some reason. I think Whedon may or may not be in a similar place with Spike and Angel, they aren't speaking to him, while Buffy and Willow still are.
That said? I have a hunch Spike and/or Angel will pop up in Whedon's comics before the season is over. Probably closer to issue 40 - which at this rate, unfortunately, may not be until 2011.