Did you see my post from Friday? I found the scene in TWD very similar to Seeing Red and I wondered if anyone else saw it that way. The scene in TWD is much more logical, likely because it wasn't there to serve an out of story purpose - to garner sympathy for Buffy or to show that the soul is necessary in spite of all the good Spike could do without one - I like to call that the Make Sure Angel Stays A Special Snowflake excuse, because prior to the AR, there was still a possibility of soulless redemption which would have diminished Angel's specialness in the verse and brought into question every idea about the soul he perpetuated. With TWD, there is only character narrative at work - it was short, logical, and efficient to get the point across that all is not well with Shane.

Andrea's my favorite, too - I have a kink for big sister/little sister stories, probably because I'm so close with my little sister, and the death of the younger sister Amy really hit hard for me. It was tragic and beautifully shot. The old guy's name is Dale, BTW.