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shadowkat ([personal profile] shadowkat) wrote2012-06-06 06:25 pm
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1. Work is making me crazy again. So crazy, I bought wine and chips and vodka on the way home. And am off to watch General Hospital and Mad Men. Speaking of which, co-worker who despises Mad Men but can't stop watching it, sent me the following links:

Mad Men Links:

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/hands_off_sally_7BVSqUqC1kRBCufb7TrjSI

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/is_peggy_off_mad_men_for_good_RIdZ17vR3RzEvNbsAMmPZP

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/stergling_reputation_oluT1sjmbzQQEuPv7DsZAL

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/marvel_ous_qfNQXAHTOZvvo0WacyYW8O

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/john_slattery_on_jon_hamm_he_gets_FbbGHplcyqlLf8OLi3NVfI

Warning all of them contain spoilers, I accidentally got spoiled on Sunday night's episode reading the second link.

2. Mark Watches made it to Intervention and I didn't realize Disharmony and Intervention aired at the same time.

It's notable that Whedon's series are solidly in a specific pov. Disharmony is in Angel's pov and Angel can't for one second believe that vampires are redeemable, that a vampire can change, that vampires can love, feel loyalty, or care. He is in perpetual denial. And therefore makes sweeping generalizations. Angel is all about rules and order, he loves rules. Thrives on them. Which in Orpheus, Angelus makes fun of, as does Spike, Darla, and Dru at different points. Because, whoops, Angel, no, everything you did...was you. The devil didn't make you do it.

What Cordy and Angel conveniently forget, is that Harmony was always duplicitous - when it came to fitting in or being popular. She stab her best bud in the back just to be popular. Why Cordy forgot this, I don't know - she knew Harmony and was the brunt of Harm's two-faced behavior on more than one occasion, not the brightest bulb on the planet, Cordy. (Sigh, I've been friends with a few Harmony's in my life time. You meet a woman like that? Don't walk, RUN in the opposite direction. Or just stake them, quicker, and far more satisfying actually (I'm joking).) Although to be fair, Cordy was somewhat the same way. You couldn't trust her as a human. She was always two-faced. Becoming a vampire if anything just heightened that. The vampire twists the human traits.

That made Angel interesting to me. Albeit frustrating as well. Characters who are in perpetual denile can be incredibly frustrating to watch. They never change.
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[identity profile] flake-sake.livejournal.com 2012-06-07 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I find that first article about Sally Draper seriously disturbing. I really see no problem with depicting a child growing up and making fairly normal sexual experiences, accidentally happening upon grown ups having sex, masturbating, getting their period? I had all of that around 11 and many girls do. What's wrong with incorporating it into the story? The scenes never feel exploitive of the actress ( who's parents and coworkers hopefully explain that stuff properly to her instead of being irrationally prude about it). Sally is growing up into a world that demeans women through their sexuality, Mad Men has never been shugarcoating sexism. Actually that it holds full on the sexism is what makes it a feminist show, imho.