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shadowkat ([personal profile] shadowkat) wrote2013-03-24 10:08 pm

OUAT....Selfless, Brave and True..

Well, we finally know what happened to Pinnochio. Plot-twisty episode, albeit frustrating one.



As an aside, I really wish they wouldn't give me previews at the end. But I can share this - no new episodes until April 21. And in three weeks we get a special on the making of the series.

Interesting episode, albeit frustrating. The non-Rumple episodes are always incredibly frustrating and uneven for some reason. I don't know why this is?

I have three quibbles: 1) Emma didn't get to punch Pinnochio (dang-it) 2) Still no explanation regarding how Baelfire knows Hook nor for that matter any reaction whatsoever from Regina regarding the sudden and unexpected appearance of Henry's dad, who just happens to be Rumplestilskin's long lost son in Storybrook (seriously, you'd think this mattered on some level??? Mileage varies on these points, I know, but it annoys me to no end when writers skip over these sorts of details - while focusing a lot of time on things like poor Snow getting over her misdeeds (yes, we know she's upset and why, we do not need yet another conversation between Charming and Snow about this - we got it). 3) Chinese Dragon was kind of lame. Oh and possibly a 4th - what happened to Pinnochio - found that to be an incredibly frustrating albeit surprising and understandable writing choice. I can't fault the writers for their plotting or metaphors.

Starts with Pinnochio discovering that he is turning into wood...in the Far East. I'm not sure where. Guessing either Thailand or Indonesia. At least they had him speak a different language. It also oddly fits with the Pinnochio story...he's off having fun and pleasuring himself after destroying Emma's life again. But, hey, at least he pays for it - in classic storybook fashion - he turns into wood. Nice metaphor - instead of his nose growing, he turns into wood for selfish behavior. In short, Emma doesn't need to punch him, the universe is doing it for her.

Meanwhile Snow White is feeling sorry herself hiding under the covers, while Charming caters to her ever need. Emma tells her Dad that it is time he stop catering to her and that she find a way of dealing with the fact that she killed Cora. Snow to be fair, does explain to Charming - that it's not that she killed Cora that is bugging her, it's that she used Regina to kill Regina's mother. Yes, they both deserved it, but that doesn't make it right - also as is demonstrated with Pinnochio...sometimes it is best to let karma handle these sort of things.

Speaking of karma...along comes Owen, who Regina does actually recognize, surprise surprise. Kudos to Regina for recognizing him. I wouldn't have. She offers him pie on the house and then follows him to his room at Granny's. (Is Granny's the only hotel in Storybrook? I'm guessing so, everyone appears to stay there that isn't either already residing in Storybrook or has found someone willing to put them up. The loft space by the way is Snow White's home originally, Henry and Emma just joined her, along with Charming. They need a bigger house. It's sort of unfair - Rumple and Regina have these huge houses to themselves, while there are four people living in a relatively small loft apartment.)

Regina (everyone's second favorite sociopath, the first being Rumple) seems to think Owen would be happy to see her again and doesn't hold a grudge. She's actually hurt and surprised that he is upset with her. Oh well, at least she's consistent in this regard. Sociopathic, unremorseful, and a wee bit unself-aware, but definitely consistent. Owen confronts her about his Dad, Flynn. Regina tells him that Flynn left shortly after he did. He accuses her of lying and that people don't disappear. She gives Owen the same spiel she gave Emma, about how she can make his life a living hell and make him disappear - and it would be better for him if he just left Storybrook now. (Yeah, and that worked so well with Emma. Honestly you'd think she'd learn by now? Like I said, consistent.)

Meanwhile...we are finally getting Pinnochio's back story and where he disappeared to. I was confused for a bit there, because I was not entirely certain when the flashbacks were taking place, up until the final flashback - I thought they were taking place in the time period after August/Pinnochio disappeared and when Snow finds him in the trailer. But no, they took place between the time period when August broke Emma and Neal up and he followed Emma to Storybrook. So we told several things with the flashbacks regarding Pinnochio - 1)what August did after he broke up Emma/Neal, 2)why he returned to storybrook to get her to break the curse, 3) when he told Baelfire he'd send him a post-card and how Baelfire reacted to it, 4) where he went and why after the curse got broken.

Turns out he went off to have fun. He started to turn into wood. Hunted down a Chinese Dragon to fix him. Didn't have any money, so stole it from Tamara (who also happens to be Neal's girlfriend - small world, isn't it and a somewhat ironic one?) who claims to be dying of cancer (not), to get the potion to fix him - only to have Tamara steal it back from him (because after all he stole from her first). The Chinese Dragon tells Pinnochio that the potion will only fix a symptom - turning back to wood, it will not cure him - he must do that himself. (ie. Stop being a sociopath.)

At the same time - we get a bit of insight into who Tamara is. Turns out Tamara is a bit of a bad-ass. But not a storybook character or a litigator, instead she's a warrior woman with a bad-ass shocker device that seems capable of killing bad-ass immortal storybook characters.
Also, in the plot-twist to end all plot-twists, is Owen's girlfriend or the "HER" that he keeps contacting by cell phone and sending photos to. (Although I sort of figured out that plot-twist when I saw the previews from last week - those previews are deadly. I did not however figure out Pinnochio...he looked like John Henry the lumberjack in the previews.)

Turns out Owen and Tamara are in cohoots and have been for some time. Tamara followed August/Pinnochio to Baelfire/Neal and orchestrated their meeting. And Tamara has been hunting down magic. August believes she wants to take the magic out of Storybrook. I'm not so sure - she seems to lust after it in much the same way Rumple does. At any rate, her relationship with Baelfire/Neal has suddenly become quite ironic. Plus the woman has a lot of money. How'd she come by it? Not that it matters. But Regina may have met her match.

Tamara gives August (ironically) the same spiel that Regina gives Owen. August unlike Owen does take her up on it, until he finds the photo she allegedly gave the Dragon, and realizes she killed the Dragon. And doesn't have cancer and lied. He rushes back to Storybrook to warn Emma. Runs into Tamara - who he stupidly attempts to confront. Tamara shocks him. He dies trying to tell Emma the truth. The Blue Fairy per Henry's guidance, brings him back to life - except as the little boy, Pinnochio, not the grown man, August. And he's younger than Henry. So unfortunately for Emma can't remember anything. Dang-it. Yet clever, very clever on the writers behalf.

Snow White is happy, as is Charming, if Pinnochio can find redemption so can she. Well, it was at a great cost...there is that. Which is admittedly troubling. Also Snow, unlike Emma, got the cathartic moment of hitting Geppetto for tricking her, and depriving her of 28 years with her daughter. Then she ruins it, by stating no, no, this wasn't me, I didn't do that.
Of course you were right in what you did, he was your child and you've paid for it. (Okay she's right about that and so was Emma, because he was apologizing/confessing when she slapped him.)

Emma convinces Baelfire/Neal to tell Tamara the truth about where he came from and who he is - thinking he's the liar in this picture. Eh. No. Turns out Tamara already knew - thanks to Pinnochio. (Seriously Pinnochio is like a plague on Emma and Neal/Baelfire's lives, with friends like Pinnochio - who needs enemies? They are much safer with him as a kid again - well as long as he doesn't befriend Henry. Stay away from Henry, Pinnochio.) Also talk about double-standard - she whines to Baelfire/Neal about his interest in Emma, when she's sticking her tongue down Owen's throat. Not only is his beloved fiancee, a liar, she's also manipulative and in love with someone else. Apparently Neal/Baelfire's luck with women is a bit similar to his father's?

At any rate, Tamara's connection to Owen redeems her a little in my eyes. Clearly they have been planning this for a while. What they are planning outside of taking down Regina and Storybrook and finding Flynn, I'm not certain.

Oh...and guess who is missing from lockup in Manhattan? Hook. Emma doesn't see a problem, after all she's beaten and locked Hook up three times now. Baelfire isn't so sure - dude, you have bigger problems on the horizon.

The writers are definitely having fun, I'll give them that. Also we appear to be past the Snow White Angsting Over Her Immortal Soul bit for at least a while. Regina also appears to be finally paying attention to Greg Mendel/aka Owen.

I did find it ironically amusing that Emma tells Bae - you invited Tamara here? What are you going to tell her when she sees a giant walking by or a werewolf? Or who you are? Isn't it bad enough we have Greg Mendel to deal with? Bae - oh it won't be so hard. Emma - tell her the truth. Turns out? Didn't have to. Both Greg and Tamara know about Storybrook and have been hunting it for quite some time. Yep this is a major plot arc for the season finale - I was right about that, just didn't see how it would come about - like this approach better than what I predicted. It's twistier and more ironic.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't say she was evil, just that Tamara reminds me a little of her.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
It won't, she's his mother...at the end of the day? There's no getting past that. Also, hello, Disney! Not Fox.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
True. Also a tad too coincidental. Complicated isn't the word I'd use though...incestuous maybe or extremely small world and limited budget.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, scheduling issues. Networks are wonky on that score.
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[identity profile] masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Just my anxiety disorder talkin'.

Post-traumatic stress from other parent-child ships that sailed.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
He's going to figure out to get past that...right quick. Everybody lies, mainly to themselves. Actually Henry's been doing a great job of it for a while now...but I cut him some slack, he's only 11.

That said, Emma and her secret power being the ability to see through liars is actually a nice tie-in to Henry's neurosis, and possibly why he counted on her never to lie to him.

Yet...he does catch her in a lie in S1 and goes all nuts over it, until she covers and convinces him that she just was fooling Regina.

If I was Regina - I would find a way to catch Emma in another lie - in front of Henry.
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[identity profile] masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
What if she *did* run into Hook in Neal's basement, though, and LIED ABOUT IT?

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Keep in mind - this is not a Joss Whedon show...nor horror. Heck, the network stopped the writers from killing off Charming. Something tells me that they will make the writers protect the Emma/Henry ship. Neal/Emma - probably won't make it. But Emma/Henry will.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Oh...interesting. Tamara could have been the one who let Hook loose.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Eh..I changed my mind, Tamara reminds me more Cora - Rumple's other girlfriend.

Which is sort of interesting actually, Neal is getting conned, or Rumple's son is getting conned. Oh the irony.

Not to mention...Tamara may want Rumple's dagger/power - which means Neal who has worked so hard to get away from all that - run smack dab into it, plus Rumple's about to get bit in a big way for bringing magic back.

Hmmm, I wonder if this may lead to the arc where Henry is Rumple's undoing?

I'm oddly enough, shipping Henry:Rumple and Rumple:Emma (platonic, please !).
I'm going to start using ":" for platonic, just to be clear from now on. You'd think it would be...but fandom is an odd place.
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[identity profile] masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
He counted on her never to lie to him because he's lived in a Fairytale Reality all his life. Good!Mom and Evil!Mom and cartoonish neighbors who do the Same Thing Everyday.

I'm surprised he's not Whacked.
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[identity profile] masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
I know, I'm all the time putting plus signs between my pairings so people don't think I'm some sort of parent-child incest... person.

And Emma and Rumplestiltskin together are "gold."

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I've also decided I've got it all wrong...

Baelfire is more like his mom than his father, lots of resemblance to Milah, while Emma reminds me a little of Rumplestilskin, and Henry a young Bae.

So...

Emma/Neal/Tamara

Rumple/Milah/Hook

And Graheam/Huntsman was probably Emma's Belle.

Rumple identifies strongly with Emma on various levels, which may explain her success with him - where others have failed.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, so far at least two people have unsuccessfully gone for the dagger - Pinnochio and Cora, and it did not go at all well for either.

Be interesting if they address how August figured out Neal was Baelfire (he clearly knew Bael's history - because I think August/Pinnochio wrote the book that Henry keeps giving his parents or is carting around with him), when they don't address other things. Writers address the oddest details, yet leave other details unresolved.

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[identity profile] masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
There was one other person who had success with Rumple until recently. Henry. Who probably reminded Rumple of Baelfire a great deal.

He must be hella bewildered why Mr. Gold got so mean to him all of a sudden.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Creepy perhaps...but in a way it was what August/Pinnochio deserved and what he asked for. He wanted a rewind, that was his wish. And he got it. It's also the Pinnochio story with a modern day twist. Fairy tales can be somewhat creepy.

I got the feeling that Cora got the spell for the candle from Rumple. But Rumple is the one who gives Snow the candle or tells her where to find it. He also reminds her what to do with it. So yes and no...Cora's trick got her killed (ironic) but it was Cora's lover/love Rumple (who Cora was attempting to kill) that gave it to Snow (also ironic - considering all the poisons and spells used to hurt Snow and her family were equally acquired from Rumple.)

And yes, I think Snow was right to slap Gepetto upside the head -- I disagreed with Emma on that score. Emma's been a tad too forgiving of late.
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[identity profile] masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know if August wrote it. As a writer, he might have a plausible understanding of book-binding.

However, as a theory about who wrote it, August is a good one. After all, these are "not the fairy tales in the traditional sense," and where in the hell else did it come from. My original theory was Mr. Gold, but not if his memory didn't return until Emma showed up.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if it is a residue effect of the Mary Margaret Blanchard persona that is resulting in Snow second-guessing herself and losing her gumption? That persona always felt guilty and apologized for everything - convinced she didn't deserve happiness. Which makes me wonder if that bit was built into the curse? Interesting curse.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
No, too many clues lead to August.

1. Type-writer that he carries around in the box.
2. The book-binding and printing press he uses to add a page to the book and remove another.

Also, remember if he knew about Emma being in prison, chances are he knew about her pregnancy and about Henry. I can't help but think that he sent Henry to Storybrook and sent the book to Mary Margret, in the hopes she'd eventually give it to Henry.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Henry's behavior reminds me a great deal of a young Bae...
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[identity profile] masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you figure a rewind is what August *wanted*? Does he say so in the dialogue anywhere? Seems to me he just wanted to make up for his mistakes by revealing the Tamara Plot to the sheriff, something he did not get to do, though he tried.
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[identity profile] masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Except she had Gumption in FTL earlier this season, IMO. Also, after she got back as well. Hook commented on it in the episode... "Tiny", I think it was.
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[identity profile] masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope they address it in back story at some point.
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[identity profile] masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG, he's his father's son all over. I think that was a deliberate choice by the writers.

[identity profile] flameraven.livejournal.com 2013-03-27 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with masq; I don't know that August wanted that dramatic of a reset. I feel like he wanted to make up for his past mistakes and work on being a better person. I don't think that translates into 'erase my memory and make me a child again.' Also... if he can't remember his mistakes, how can he learn from them or avoid them? The solution is overly simplistic and feels off to me. Though I am always more of a fan of people working through their problems rather than magic solutions.

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