The reason I think Dawn will survive now is it's just so damned obvious they're playing her as going to die. At this point, it's the opposite of "I'll be right back".
S9 will be the fallout from that and people attempting to free her.
See, I kinda don't think they will. Spike might. Maybe Angel. But the Scoobies? To me the whole season basically shows they don't need her anymore. Dawn doesn't need her to protect her and she and Xander will move in together. Giles has been basically training Faith to be the new Buffy*. Xander is over Buffy and Willow states in a roundabout way that she wouldn't bring Buffy back again if it came to that. Buffy is the mother of the Scoobs and the Slayers, but she's not needed and the parallel the theme of the current mother universe being expendable when Twilight was made, so is Buffy expendable to them.
*I wonder if this will play in somehow. Giles has never thought much of Buffy leading and during the season has been shown to be working behind her back. It's his characterization to think Buffy's morality is an exploitable weakness. She wouldn't kill Ben, wouldn't kill Spike, for instance. Perhaps the Brutus/Cassius reference in the first arc is about Giles and him doing something to her to make her a better leader.
to such an extent, that I found it offensive at different points and I'm by no means a Bangel shipper,
Yeah. Bangels are around because Joss let them and catered to them, now he's mocking them. B/A was done on BTVS and Joss revived it by turning the first act of Chosen into an AtS S5 commercial. Both ships were dead at the end of AtS. He revived them *again* and has done nothing but insult them. It's like he knows he needs ships but doesn't like it and is taking it out on the fans. Nothing new there, though (see the AtS finale).
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Date: 2010-10-09 11:44 am (UTC)The reason I think Dawn will survive now is it's just so damned obvious they're playing her as going to die. At this point, it's the opposite of "I'll be right back".
S9 will be the fallout from that and people attempting to free her.
See, I kinda don't think they will. Spike might. Maybe Angel. But the Scoobies? To me the whole season basically shows they don't need her anymore. Dawn doesn't need her to protect her and she and Xander will move in together. Giles has been basically training Faith to be the new Buffy*. Xander is over Buffy and Willow states in a roundabout way that she wouldn't bring Buffy back again if it came to that. Buffy is the mother of the Scoobs and the Slayers, but she's not needed and the parallel the theme of the current mother universe being expendable when Twilight was made, so is Buffy expendable to them.
*I wonder if this will play in somehow. Giles has never thought much of Buffy leading and during the season has been shown to be working behind her back. It's his characterization to think Buffy's morality is an exploitable weakness. She wouldn't kill Ben, wouldn't kill Spike, for instance. Perhaps the Brutus/Cassius reference in the first arc is about Giles and him doing something to her to make her a better leader.
to such an extent, that I found it offensive at different points and I'm by no means a Bangel shipper,
Yeah. Bangels are around because Joss let them and catered to them, now he's mocking them. B/A was done on BTVS and Joss revived it by turning the first act of Chosen into an AtS S5 commercial. Both ships were dead at the end of AtS. He revived them *again* and has done nothing but insult them. It's like he knows he needs ships but doesn't like it and is taking it out on the fans. Nothing new there, though (see the AtS finale).