Complete agreement here - with particular emphasis on the changes characters showed as they existed in both worlds.
Wesley has a wonderfully tragic existence - and that is tragic in the classical sense. It is his strength and hubris which leads to his downfall.
Spike, much as I love him, was really annoying on about 1/3 of his time on W&H - between the discovery of Lindsy-Doyle and the visit by Lawson mainly. His remarks about Angel and sex were as enjoyable as Anya's orgasm remarks. He did present a challenge to Angel, though I don't think he ever wanted the Shanshu. He wanted Angel to see him. That is one of his constants - from telling Cecily throughout most of his unlife. Dru saw him, and let him take care of her. I think through most of the shows Spike needed to be seen or he felt invisible. He needed validation from outside himself. His journey in Angel was to move past that.
(Pet peeve here - Spike did not live with his mother. He owned the house and everything in it - the oldest male inherited it all. His mother was allowed to live there but she was not in charge except when he allowed it.Also they were pretty rich if they kept their own carriage rather than using a hack, and if they used the same doctor as Queen Victoria.)
Faith - I think she and Buffy did reach an understanding once Faith felt the pressure of being the leader.
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Date: 2014-10-13 01:50 am (UTC)Wesley has a wonderfully tragic existence - and that is tragic in the classical sense. It is his strength and hubris which leads to his downfall.
Spike, much as I love him, was really annoying on about 1/3 of his time on W&H - between the discovery of Lindsy-Doyle and the visit by Lawson mainly. His remarks about Angel and sex were as enjoyable as Anya's orgasm remarks. He did present a challenge to Angel, though I don't think he ever wanted the Shanshu. He wanted Angel to see him. That is one of his constants - from telling Cecily throughout most of his unlife. Dru saw him, and let him take care of her. I think through most of the shows Spike needed to be seen or he felt invisible. He needed validation from outside himself. His journey in Angel was to move past that.
(Pet peeve here - Spike did not live with his mother. He owned the house and everything in it - the oldest male inherited it all. His mother was allowed to live there but she was not in charge except when he allowed it.Also they were pretty rich if they kept their own carriage rather than using a hack, and if they used the same doctor as Queen Victoria.)
Faith - I think she and Buffy did reach an understanding once Faith felt the pressure of being the leader.