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Aug. 29th, 2018 08:51 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
shadowkat1. The logic of folks escapes me...at times.
Got bored, went on FB tonight, and...sigh.
Former Jr. Minister of church -- "they should force studios to hire gay actors to play gay parts, because gay actors don't get any roles."
Me: Eh. Really? What about Montgomery Cliff, Rock Hudson, Richard Chamberlain, James Dean, James Parsons, the guy from White Collar, Ellen Degenerous, Barbara Stanwyck, Rosie O'Donnell, Lee Pace, Alan Cummings...the list goes on and on. Honestly. They've had roles when they were in the closet and out of the closet.
But I restrained myself.
An actor can play either straight or gay, it's really no difference. I remember someone no longer being turned on to Rock Hudson and Richard Chamberlain when they realized they were gay. And I thought, really? Why? Your logic escapes me. Why's it matter? He's playing a fictional character.
You can't be with him anyway.
Of course I've never understood why people were offended by or cared about someone else's sexual orientation.
Former Co-worker: It's okay that they are gay, I just can't handle them being married. That shouldn't happen.
Me: Why? What's it have to do with you?
Former Co-worker: I believe marriage should be a sacrament and just between a man and a woman.
Me: Again, why does it matter what you believe or think? Why should your beliefs have anything to do with this?
Former Co-worker: It offends me.
Me: So? It offends me that you are against same-sex marriage and want to prevent my friends from marrying people they love, because of some religious prejudice. Why should your beliefs and religious views outweigh mine?
Co-worker: Because it's not right.
Me: How exactly? I fail to follow your logic on this. What if I decided that who you wanted to marry was offensive because they happened to be tall or had a big nose? Do I have that right? And how exactly does someone else getting married to someone they happen to love regardless of the gender, race etc...have anything to do with you or for that matter how is it any of your business? I fail to understand who gave you the right to be the judge or arbitrator in this matter?
Co-worker: Sputters.
We never discussed it again. And within two years? I got laid off and never had to deal with her again. She was a nice enough woman, just had a fucked-up view of the world.
Apparently, I'm bored and cranky tonight. I blame it on the day. I spent half the day trying to block out a fight next to me. Cubical mate was on a teleconference call and they were screaming at each other. And the weather is changing again...which is giving me a headache.
2. Durarara is a rather fascinating anime series. It's two seasons. I actually think it's divided into three or four story arcs. With lots of vignette character studies, all focusing on or around a headless Irish Duloan Fairy, who has lost her head riding the streets of Tokyo on her motorcycle.
Never seen anything quite like it.
One of the better animes that I've seen. Violent though. But most are, unfortunately. Not as violent as most of them. It's tamer and more focused on character development. Also an interesting critique of social media.
Got bored, went on FB tonight, and...sigh.
Former Jr. Minister of church -- "they should force studios to hire gay actors to play gay parts, because gay actors don't get any roles."
Me: Eh. Really? What about Montgomery Cliff, Rock Hudson, Richard Chamberlain, James Dean, James Parsons, the guy from White Collar, Ellen Degenerous, Barbara Stanwyck, Rosie O'Donnell, Lee Pace, Alan Cummings...the list goes on and on. Honestly. They've had roles when they were in the closet and out of the closet.
But I restrained myself.
An actor can play either straight or gay, it's really no difference. I remember someone no longer being turned on to Rock Hudson and Richard Chamberlain when they realized they were gay. And I thought, really? Why? Your logic escapes me. Why's it matter? He's playing a fictional character.
You can't be with him anyway.
Of course I've never understood why people were offended by or cared about someone else's sexual orientation.
Former Co-worker: It's okay that they are gay, I just can't handle them being married. That shouldn't happen.
Me: Why? What's it have to do with you?
Former Co-worker: I believe marriage should be a sacrament and just between a man and a woman.
Me: Again, why does it matter what you believe or think? Why should your beliefs have anything to do with this?
Former Co-worker: It offends me.
Me: So? It offends me that you are against same-sex marriage and want to prevent my friends from marrying people they love, because of some religious prejudice. Why should your beliefs and religious views outweigh mine?
Co-worker: Because it's not right.
Me: How exactly? I fail to follow your logic on this. What if I decided that who you wanted to marry was offensive because they happened to be tall or had a big nose? Do I have that right? And how exactly does someone else getting married to someone they happen to love regardless of the gender, race etc...have anything to do with you or for that matter how is it any of your business? I fail to understand who gave you the right to be the judge or arbitrator in this matter?
Co-worker: Sputters.
We never discussed it again. And within two years? I got laid off and never had to deal with her again. She was a nice enough woman, just had a fucked-up view of the world.
Apparently, I'm bored and cranky tonight. I blame it on the day. I spent half the day trying to block out a fight next to me. Cubical mate was on a teleconference call and they were screaming at each other. And the weather is changing again...which is giving me a headache.
2. Durarara is a rather fascinating anime series. It's two seasons. I actually think it's divided into three or four story arcs. With lots of vignette character studies, all focusing on or around a headless Irish Duloan Fairy, who has lost her head riding the streets of Tokyo on her motorcycle.
Never seen anything quite like it.
One of the better animes that I've seen. Violent though. But most are, unfortunately. Not as violent as most of them. It's tamer and more focused on character development. Also an interesting critique of social media.
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Date: 2018-08-30 04:14 am (UTC)Yeah, that's pretty clueless.
I remember someone no longer being turned on to Rock Hudson and Richard Chamberlain when they realized they were gay. And I thought, really? Why?
Yep, it's all fantasy anyway. What difference could it possibly make? Would Rock Hudson or Richard Chamberlain or Robert Reed have hopelessly fallen for her if only they had been straight? ;o)
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Date: 2018-08-30 04:47 am (UTC)Her views on same-sex marriage could have evolved since then. It happens.
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Date: 2018-08-30 07:03 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-08-30 01:07 pm (UTC)True. But unlikely. Late 40s, and devoted Italian Catholic.
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Date: 2018-08-30 01:17 pm (UTC)Matt Boomer has - White Collar. I haven't exactly been keeping track. But they don't lack for work. Also, the problem with "type-casting" and only casting gay actors to play gays, is you end up with only straight actors playing straight.
Okay googled it: https://www.therichest.com/rich-list/most-popular/10-gay-actors-who-always-play-straight-characters/
Some are character some leading, all getting leads and major roles. Some have won awards. Why should they be limited to gay roles? Which that would do.
Wentworth Miller (Prison Break) Jodi Foster Ellen Page Sarah Paulson
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Date: 2018-08-30 03:17 pm (UTC)Your ex-colleague might need a proclamation from the Pope and I don't see that coming anytime soon. Meanwhile, she can take comfort knowing that her church won't sanctify same sex marriage, even if mine and yours will.
Some days I just hate people.
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Date: 2018-08-30 05:08 pm (UTC)Some days I just hate people.
Yep. Pretty much. Been wanting to kick people all week long. ;-)
but I wish we would go the French route of having everyone required to be married in a civil ceremony first; those that want a religious ceremony afterwards (and can find a religion they like that likes them back) can do that, too
We sort of do in a way. You need a legal license to get married and someone authorized by the state to perform the marriage - that's all a civil marriage is. The ceremony is nice. But the license, agreement among the parties and someone authorized to witness it, is really all that's required. It's similar to a contract -- both parties sign, someone witnesses, someone authorizes and seals it as official. You can't have the ceremony without the license, but you can have the license without the ceremony -- that's the civil route. As long as someone licensed by the State in which you reside authorizes and signs off on your union -- you are married. But if they aren't, not married. So yeah the church can marry you in the eyes of God, but if you don't have someone authorized by the state and with a legal license, you are not married in the eyes of many states, including NY. Some states will recognize someone as married if they've lived together for a period of time -- California (aka common law state) but not that many.