Jul. 1st, 2007

shadowkat: (Default)
Sort of like this fun and completely innocuous meme that I swiped from [livejournal.com profile] liz_marks including her five that weren't on it. (Or what I like to call fun with HTML)

Bold those shows where you've seen every episode.

Italics for those shows where you've seen episodes, and are kind of *meh* about what you saw.

Underlined Italics if you only saw a few episodes and liked what you saw.

Strikeout those shows where you've seen episodes, but didn't like it.

Leave the text as is for shows you haven't seen.


Bonus round: List 5 shows you think should've been on the list, but weren't.

30) Strangers with Candy
29) Absolutely Fabulous

28) Stargate SG-1
27) H.R. Pufnstuf
26) Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman (seeing a trend here, don't like this type of comedy very much for some reason.)
25) Firefly
24) Twin Peaks

23) Dark Shadows (original)
22) Doctor Who
21) Freaks and Geeks
20) The Avengers

19) Quantum Leap
18) Veronica Mars
17) Beauty and the Beast
16) Babylon 5
15) Family Guy
14) Battlestar Galactica (2003)
13) Mystery Science Theater 3000
12) Pee-Wee's Playhouse
11) Jericho

10) Xena: Warrior Princess (except the final two seasons - when I lost interest)
9) Twilight Zone (most of them)
8) The Simpsons (not of much of the later seasons...)
7) The Prisoner (all in the space of a weekend)
6) Monty Python's Flying Circus
5) Lost
4) Farscape
3) Buffy the Vampire Slayer

2) The X-Files (liked bits and pieces of it. Weird show - I loved the standalones, but found the serial portions of the series stupid - alien abductions isn't something I can take seriously or interests me. Also not sure this qualifies as *cult* since most people in the mainstream loved it and it got nominated for emmy's - cult shows NEVER do.)
1) Star Trek


My 5 Shows that Should've Been on the List:

1) Red Dwarf
2) Blackadder
3) Futurama
4) Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

5) The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr.



My 5 shows that Should've Been on the List:

1. Forever Knight
2. American Gothic
3. Now and Again
4. Angel
5. Highlander
shadowkat: (brooklyn)
Regarding that meme on TV Guide's top 30 Cult TV Shows? Have a few quibbles regarding their definition of cult, which reminds me of a lengthy lunch debate I had with a guy I dated a few years back at Evil Company. He said that only fantasy and sci-fi shows were *cult*. I said, no, a sci-fi show might not be cult. X-Files for example had jumped out of cult status. Cult - I informed him - was a tv series, film or book that was not liked by the *mainstream* or not a *best-seller* - it had a specific niche or fringe audience. People adored it, but they didn't talk about it in public and it wasn't something you saw in the Neilson ratings. It's the sort of thing - that someone will hesistantly admit to in an elevator and you'll stop and say cool! ME too!

In short - a show like The Sopranos was NOT cult. While Buffy the Vampire Slayer definitely was. Cult was not the same as *excellent* or *horrid* - what it meant was a show that may or may not be loved by critics, was often dismissed, and never taken seriously by the powers that be - the best seller lists, Nielsen's, EW's and mainstream media - and you have to hunt on your tv dial - because it appears at weird times, jumps channels, and well is hard to find. CULT is a show or book or film you discover through your friends. Not the media. It's not advertised. It's not well marketed. Until after we've discovered it - long after. Yet, at the same time, CULT is also something that has a certain quality or lasting resonance. Something that scholars will obsess over. CULT is an artwork people OBSESS over. Not easily dismissed by its fans.

Cult often has a weird title. Like The Rocky Horror Picture Show or Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It's just left of center. Off the beaten track. Cult never gets awards except from fringe groups. And often has obsessive fans who go to conventions to celebrate it or late night viewings or who collect everything associated with it. They debate it vehemently but don't tell co-workers.

Course many people disagree with my definition. The guy I dated did. We ended up calling a stalemate. (Or he just shut-up and let me win.)

Shows that I don't believe can be cult because they are celebrated by the mainstream and consider pop= Lost, Heroes, Six Feet Under, Sopranoes, Seinfield, MASH, Hill Street Blues, Ugly Betty, Grey's Anatomy, Star Wars (although it does have weird obsessive fans, but they aren't quite the same as cult fans) and Harry Potter. (Note the difference - Pop = popular items. CULT = those things that live under the wire.)

Here's my list of CULT TV shows that I know about, in no particular order:

1. Buffy the Vampire Slayer
2. Star Trek (the original one)
3. Voyager
4. Deep Space Nine
5. Angel
6. Dark Angel
7. American Gothic
8. Highlander
9. Xenia
10. Space Above and Beyond
11. Firefly
12. Wonderfalls
13. Dead Like Me
14. Doctor Who
15. BattleStar Galatica2
16. Jericho
17. HEx
18. Forever Knight
19. Supernatural
20. Star Gate
21. Farscape
22. Mystery Theater 2000
23. Veronica Mars
24. Strangers with Candy
25. Rosewell
26. BlackAdder
27. Monty Python
28. Arrested Development
29. Profit
30. H&R PuffnStuff
31. Twin Peaks...which jumped sort of to the mainstream
32. Smallville
33. Tru Calling

Cult's the shows that you worry about getting renewed. That you have to hunt down. And you keep trying to get people to like, or you keep to yourself. They aren't water cooler chatter.

They are things like Rocky Horror Picture Show, Tremors...buried at the bottom of the video store. Not in wide release. On late at night. OR out of print.

What do you think?

Agree? Disagree?

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