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1. Read "Immortal X-Men" issue 14 last night - and it was hilarious.
Villainous Shaw (who is a mutant) takes a shot to no longer be a mutant than asks his secretary how wealthy he is.
Secretary: Well, you aren't.
Shaw: What do you mean? I own Kraokoa and all its financial assets!
Secretary: About that...it appears someone else does.
Shaw: Who?
Secretary: We're looking into it...
Shaw: Why are you quivering? Did you think I'd throw you off the building or something?
Secretary: Yes?
Shaw: I'm not a bloody supervillian for fuck's sake. I'm a businessman.
Later..
Secretary: We figured out who owns the financial assets of Kraokoa now...
Shaw: Who?
Secretary: Wilson Fiske, the Kingpin is the new White King and owner, he cancelled your membership to the hellfire club.
Shaw: WTF? Oh well, I'll just exploit the island Kraokae now that I own it. Tee hee.
Later..
Shaw: Where are we on phase one of my exploitation scheme?
Secretary: We've not made past phase 0.
Shaw: Why the hell not?
Secretary: No one wants to go on the island.
Body guard: There's mutating monsters on the island.
Shaw: They are not monsters, they are mutants.
Body guard: Same difference.
Shaw: Send another team.
Another team arrives on the island. Professor Charles Xavier who is meditating picks up on them, and implants a nasty hallucination of huge insane monsters on the island. They run screaming. Apparently Shaw forgot about the insanely powerful telepath sitting on the island, meditating?
Previously, Xavier was forced to compell basically every mutant but the lead players (or the characters the writers wish to torture with storylines at the moment) through a gate. The people who compelled them - either think they are dead, or on Mars.
Villains: All Mutants are now on Arrako in the middle of a War. he he he.
Xavier: OMG - they killed all the mutants. I compelled them through the gates to keep the evil villains from killing humans. (Considering the evil villains are funded by humanity, I'm not entirely sure why he felt the need to martyr himself and the mutants. Except - at the time, he thought they were just retreating and could come back, I guess? It's a comic - it rarely makes logical sense.) I didn't know they did something to the Gates and no one could get through - everyone is dead now. (Uhm no, Charles - they closed the Gates after they were compelled through.)
Emma Frost (good guy at the moment - on the side of the mutants): Charles, I think everyone is alive -
Charles: I can't sense them, so they must be dead. (He apparently thinks he can sense people across the universe and multiple worlds?)
They aren't dead. Nor are the on Mars for that matter.
Some vast desert, that is clearly not Earth or Mars. The characters are not in desert gear. Hope is in a flowing below the shoulders white gown and slippers for example.
Destiny: I can't see! I can't see!
Hope: You're blind remember? Of course you can't see.
Destiny: No - I can't see the future. There's nothing but white noise. It's completely blank! Is Raven here? Where's my wife? Did Mystique make it? Where is she! She must be here -
Hope smacks Destiny upside the head.
Hope: Destiny you are an ice-cold bitch. I liked that. Pull it together.
Exodus: There are 250,000 minds here. None of them are Mystique. Or the rest of the five (Hope's pals) for that matter. It's the whole population of Krakoa. The ones Xavier forced to walk through the portals. (Basically the people Xavier is convinced are dead). They were meant to arrive on Arrako (aka Mars which is in the midst of a Civil War). Instead they came here. To the desert.
Hope: We have a city full of people. Most of them have no useful mutant powers. We no food. No water. Some of us are wearing fucking formal wear. What are we going to do?
Exodus: Listen to me, mutants! (speech about how they will survive the desert as pilgrims and to trust him) . Follow me.
Hope: What is this way Exodus?
Exodus: A promised land.
Hope: Do you know this truly?
Exodus: Absolutely not. But I have faith.
End quote:
"The whole mutant people were cast out from Krakoa and came to the desert. In the desert, the whole community grumbled against Exodus and Hope. The mutants said to them, 'if only we had died by Orchis' hand! In Krakoa, we sat around pots of plenty and ate all the food we wanted, but you have brought us out into this desert to starve this entire assembly to death."
- The Book of Exodus, Bennet Du Paris Translation.
LOL.
2. Oppenheimer is getting a lot of interesting controversy - which should make Nolan happy.
I just saw an article today - where someone was arguing how it was well known fact that the atomic wasn't needed to end WWII, and they did it to avoid having to negotiate splitting up the Asian Quarter with Russia, like they did Germany.
I don't know about that.
Here's the article: The Decision to Drop the Atomic Bombs on Japan was based on Lies.
Eh, the problem with people reviewing the past, is hindsight is often 20-20 and what seems clear to someone today, wasn't in 1945. You are judging a time period that you aren't in, and only have the vague recollections of those who were there to inform you. And of course whatever was maintained historically.
Keep in mind - that the WAR was going on full steam ahead. Communications weren't rapid. And not everyone was in the loop. I mean we didn't have the internet or cell phones back then. They barely had the telephone. Long distance calls weren't always reliable if existent.
Considering there are people who were born in the 1950s and 40s, and lived during that period who are still convinced that the atomic bomb was required to end the war, and millions more would have died without it ...I know I fought with these folks over this about a month ago.
So I don't know how reliable that argument is. I didn't read all of it.
Villainous Shaw (who is a mutant) takes a shot to no longer be a mutant than asks his secretary how wealthy he is.
Secretary: Well, you aren't.
Shaw: What do you mean? I own Kraokoa and all its financial assets!
Secretary: About that...it appears someone else does.
Shaw: Who?
Secretary: We're looking into it...
Shaw: Why are you quivering? Did you think I'd throw you off the building or something?
Secretary: Yes?
Shaw: I'm not a bloody supervillian for fuck's sake. I'm a businessman.
Later..
Secretary: We figured out who owns the financial assets of Kraokoa now...
Shaw: Who?
Secretary: Wilson Fiske, the Kingpin is the new White King and owner, he cancelled your membership to the hellfire club.
Shaw: WTF? Oh well, I'll just exploit the island Kraokae now that I own it. Tee hee.
Later..
Shaw: Where are we on phase one of my exploitation scheme?
Secretary: We've not made past phase 0.
Shaw: Why the hell not?
Secretary: No one wants to go on the island.
Body guard: There's mutating monsters on the island.
Shaw: They are not monsters, they are mutants.
Body guard: Same difference.
Shaw: Send another team.
Another team arrives on the island. Professor Charles Xavier who is meditating picks up on them, and implants a nasty hallucination of huge insane monsters on the island. They run screaming. Apparently Shaw forgot about the insanely powerful telepath sitting on the island, meditating?
Previously, Xavier was forced to compell basically every mutant but the lead players (or the characters the writers wish to torture with storylines at the moment) through a gate. The people who compelled them - either think they are dead, or on Mars.
Villains: All Mutants are now on Arrako in the middle of a War. he he he.
Xavier: OMG - they killed all the mutants. I compelled them through the gates to keep the evil villains from killing humans. (Considering the evil villains are funded by humanity, I'm not entirely sure why he felt the need to martyr himself and the mutants. Except - at the time, he thought they were just retreating and could come back, I guess? It's a comic - it rarely makes logical sense.) I didn't know they did something to the Gates and no one could get through - everyone is dead now. (Uhm no, Charles - they closed the Gates after they were compelled through.)
Emma Frost (good guy at the moment - on the side of the mutants): Charles, I think everyone is alive -
Charles: I can't sense them, so they must be dead. (He apparently thinks he can sense people across the universe and multiple worlds?)
They aren't dead. Nor are the on Mars for that matter.
Some vast desert, that is clearly not Earth or Mars. The characters are not in desert gear. Hope is in a flowing below the shoulders white gown and slippers for example.
Destiny: I can't see! I can't see!
Hope: You're blind remember? Of course you can't see.
Destiny: No - I can't see the future. There's nothing but white noise. It's completely blank! Is Raven here? Where's my wife? Did Mystique make it? Where is she! She must be here -
Hope smacks Destiny upside the head.
Hope: Destiny you are an ice-cold bitch. I liked that. Pull it together.
Exodus: There are 250,000 minds here. None of them are Mystique. Or the rest of the five (Hope's pals) for that matter. It's the whole population of Krakoa. The ones Xavier forced to walk through the portals. (Basically the people Xavier is convinced are dead). They were meant to arrive on Arrako (aka Mars which is in the midst of a Civil War). Instead they came here. To the desert.
Hope: We have a city full of people. Most of them have no useful mutant powers. We no food. No water. Some of us are wearing fucking formal wear. What are we going to do?
Exodus: Listen to me, mutants! (speech about how they will survive the desert as pilgrims and to trust him) . Follow me.
Hope: What is this way Exodus?
Exodus: A promised land.
Hope: Do you know this truly?
Exodus: Absolutely not. But I have faith.
End quote:
"The whole mutant people were cast out from Krakoa and came to the desert. In the desert, the whole community grumbled against Exodus and Hope. The mutants said to them, 'if only we had died by Orchis' hand! In Krakoa, we sat around pots of plenty and ate all the food we wanted, but you have brought us out into this desert to starve this entire assembly to death."
- The Book of Exodus, Bennet Du Paris Translation.
LOL.
2. Oppenheimer is getting a lot of interesting controversy - which should make Nolan happy.
I just saw an article today - where someone was arguing how it was well known fact that the atomic wasn't needed to end WWII, and they did it to avoid having to negotiate splitting up the Asian Quarter with Russia, like they did Germany.
I don't know about that.
Here's the article: The Decision to Drop the Atomic Bombs on Japan was based on Lies.
Eh, the problem with people reviewing the past, is hindsight is often 20-20 and what seems clear to someone today, wasn't in 1945. You are judging a time period that you aren't in, and only have the vague recollections of those who were there to inform you. And of course whatever was maintained historically.
Keep in mind - that the WAR was going on full steam ahead. Communications weren't rapid. And not everyone was in the loop. I mean we didn't have the internet or cell phones back then. They barely had the telephone. Long distance calls weren't always reliable if existent.
Considering there are people who were born in the 1950s and 40s, and lived during that period who are still convinced that the atomic bomb was required to end the war, and millions more would have died without it ...I know I fought with these folks over this about a month ago.
So I don't know how reliable that argument is. I didn't read all of it.