May. 19th, 2019

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Hmmm...I snagged this from elsi, and I was expecting to disagree with it. Mainly because the sociological/political read on stories -- often can come across as sanctimonious posturing from armchair social activists. But, this doesn't, it wasn't at all what I expected and I found myself nodding along with it. It does a good job of explaining why many people fell for the narrative in the books and series (not everyone, obviously), and why The Wire was so effective and innovative.

Scientific American Observations -- the Real Reason Fans Hate the Last Season of Game of Thrones

[I know not everyone does. Because I've seen their responses to. And debated it with them. The debates sort of fell into...:

The paint is off-white.
It's cream.
It's clearly off-white.
It's clearly cream, see the yellow in there.
There's no yellow in that, you are color-blind.
You are an idiot, and I'm done, let's go see Silence of the Lambs instead.

This by the way was the argument I had with my brother while painting our parents basement ages ago. We had to buy another pint of paint, because we'd run out, and were arguing over what color to buy. Online arguments with people about television series often remind me of arguments I've had with my brother over the years. At a certain point, I just give up and walk away. During this argument, we took a break and went to see Silence of the Lambs -- which we sort of agreed with one another with, but also didn't. He analyzed it from one angle, and I from another.]

Anyhow..outtakes from the article (which is why I prefer printed articles to podcasts - I can show you what grabbed me).

In sociological storytelling, the characters have personal stories and agency, of course, but those are also greatly shaped by institutions and events around them. The incentives for characters’ behavior come noticeably from these external forces, too, and even strongly influence their inner life.

People then fit their internal narrative to align with their incentives, justifying and rationalizing their behavior along the way. (Thus the famous Upton Sinclair quip: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”)

The overly personal mode of storytelling or analysis leaves us bereft of deeper comprehension of events and history. Understanding Hitler’s personality alone will not tell us much about rise of fascism, for example. Not that it didn’t matter, but a different demagogue would probably have appeared to take his place in Germany in between the two bloody world wars in the 20th century. Hence, the answer to “would you kill baby Hitler?,” sometimes presented as an ethical time-travel challenge, should be “no,” because it would very likely not matter much. It is not a true dilemma.

We also have a bias for the individual as the locus of agency in interpreting our own everyday life and the behavior of others. We tend to seek internal, psychological explanations for the behavior of those around us while making situational excuses for our own. This is such a common way of looking at the world that social psychologists have a word for it: the fundamental attribution error.

When someone wrongs us, we tend to think they are evil, misguided or selfish: a personalized explanation. But when we misbehave, we are better at recognizing the external pressures on us that shape our actions: a situational understanding. If you snap at a coworker, for example, you may rationalize your behavior by remembering that you had difficulty sleeping last night and had financial struggles this month. You’re not evil, just stressed! The coworker who snaps at you, however, is more likely to be interpreted as a jerk, without going through the same kind of rationalization. This is convenient for our peace of mind, and fits with our domain of knowledge, too. We know what pressures us, but not necessarily others.

That tension between internal stories and desires, psychology and external pressures, institutions, norms and events was exactly what Game of Thrones showed us for many of its characters, creating rich tapestries of psychology but also behavior that was neither saintly nor fully evil at any one point. It was something more than that: you could understand why even the characters undertaking evil acts were doing what they did, how their good intentions got subverted, and how incentives structured behavior. The complexity made it much richer than a simplistic morality tale, where unadulterated good fights with evil.

The hallmark of sociological storytelling is if it can encourage us to put ourselves in the place of any character, not just the main hero/heroine, and imagine ourselves making similar choices. “Yeah, I can see myself doing that under such circumstances” is a way into a broader, deeper understanding. It’s not just empathy: we of course empathize with victims and good people, not with evildoers.

But if we can better understand how and why characters make their choices, we can also think about how to structure our world that encourages better choices for everyone. The alternative is an often futile appeal to the better angels of our nature. It’s not that they don’t exist, but they exist along with baser and lesser motives. The question isn’t to identify the few angels but to make it easier for everyone to make the choices that, collectively, would lead us all to a better place.

Read more... )

Thoughts..

May. 19th, 2019 05:57 pm
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1. I'm loving the HBO series, Barry at the moment. The fifth episode of S2 is ...well, I laughed my ass off for a good twenty minutes. The show is about a hitman who is struggling to put his past behind him to become an actor, but his business partners and associates refuse to let him alone. Apparently he was a VERY good hitman. Meanwhile, his acting teacher is attempting to get him to use his experiences (not realizing he's an actual hitman) to act. It's the "method" approach. The series does a great job of poking fun at the absurdity of the acting profession and well, other things.

It's sort of the Kominsky Method by way of the Cohen Brothers...

spoilers )

Not for everyone though.

2. The debate of Game of Thrones in our critical media is fascinating


Why Everybody's So Mad About Daenerys Targaryen


Some Game of Thrones fans think that what happened in “The Bells” marked the show’s boldest subversion of tropes yet. Some Game of Thrones fans think it was barely explained or built to. Some Game of Thrones fans are really fucking mad. Some Game of Thrones fans (hi!) think Dany’s decision to burn King’s landing was a bold subversion of tropes that, nonetheless, was barely explained or built to.

How you interpret this scene — and I’m not joking about this — could open up serious rifts in your friendships. People are yelling at each other over Game of Thrones like never before, divided over Dany’s choice and the show’s depiction of that choice. And why they’re yelling at each other is grounded in very, very old discussions about women in power, the nature of art, and the most effective way to tell a story.


I find it fascinating because it shines a bright light on our cultural and political divisiveness.

3. I took a long walk, a beautiful one through the park. It's a lovely day, in the low 70s, a nice breeze, crystal blue sky, and very green. I walked up and through the park and after a bit..lost track of the number of people walking and texting. None of them taking in or breathing in the beauty around them.

Their heads bent over their phones as they walked their dog through a lush tree-lined path, where a man was hugging and kissing his baby son. Or as they walked behind their husband and child tweeting on their phones, crossing busy streets, absorbed by whatever was on the screen. If something happened to their child -- they'd not see it. At a lake, with mallard ducks and Canadian geese, people sat on the grass or benches texting.

Engaged in an on-going discourse over...what exactly? And as I look up, I see a beautiful sky, hear birds, and green trees, red and purple flowers. A black plastic bag hangs from a tree, and plastic bags are hidden under the water. The mallard ducks appear to be sitting on rocks in the lake, but upon closer inspection, its plastic black garbage bags covering the shore line and...in the lake. There are green porta potties on the path to the lake. It's a beautiful park, but everywhere are signs of humanity's waste and disrespect for the world around them.

I remember the 1980s and early 1990s, before the internet. Where I'd take walks and people would look at each other and say hello. Or sit on the subway and people would talk to you or interact. If we discussed a show or book, it was done for a few hours in person or via letter, where you are forced to really think over your response and forced to think about what the other person wrote, and then we moved on to something else. Time seemed to be something we enjoyed, not raced through to get to something else, and noticed, looking at the world around us. Now? We don't pay attention to these things.
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1. Just saw the last episode of Barry or episode 7 - Season 2. And whoa. Talk about a cliff-hanger. Also this show has gotten progressively better with each episode -- in both it's satirical critiques of Hollywood and the screen industry, and our violent toxic male society.

2. I'm still thinking about THIS analysis of various and diverse reactions, critical and fan related to Game of Thrones S8 - Episode 5.

The below statement reminds me a lot of debates I had online in S6 2002 and long after with various fans regarding Willow's Arc in Buffy.

Sometimes, it’s a sign of an artistically challenging work when nobody can quite agree on why a character does a thing. And sometimes it’s just a sign of sloppy writing. (Plus, my example of sloppy writing may be your artistically challenging work — and vice versa.)

This statement, almost word for word was stated during debates I've seen on BSG's final season, Lost's, Buffy S6 and S7, Doctor Who's latest season -- which was controversial and disappointing to DW fans, while some enjoyed it a great deal.

I think this is so true. I told one person who liked the episode far more than I did that it made a great Michael Bay movie. But she disagreed. She saw it as artistically challenging and beautifully rendered, and that the story-arc made sense.

Much of Game of Thrones season eight seems designed, ultimately, to deny us the kinds of closure we might want. That’s an artistically valid choice, and one that could be immensely powerful in the right hands. But its potential impact relies on viewers’ belief that the choice to forgo closure is a deliberate one on the part of the artist, and not one made accidentally via clumsiness.

The need for narrative closure is fascinating. Read more... )

madness controversy )

For instance, I tend to side with Slate’s Willa Paskin in thinking the Dany turn is not anti-feminist, but I do sort of think the scene violates the show’s former attempts at psychological realism. Game of Thrones has simply gotten so big that its spectacle overwhelms everything else.

Interesting comment. It nails a lot of the reactions I've seen on Dreamwidth. While everyone agreed that it was a great spectacle, beautifully filmed, the disagreement lay at whether this was something they wanted.

This show used to be about the moments between the spectacle, the moments that made us understand why a character would do what they did, even as their ultimate action proved shocking.
the pitfalls of spectacle )
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