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shadowkat ([personal profile] shadowkat) wrote2006-11-07 09:01 pm

Spamming out of boredom...

Gilmore Girls is boring me, am sorely tempted to flip over to The Standoff or Friday Night Lights, which may also bore me.  Okay after an interminable discussion about Creme Brulee, flipped to Friday Night Lights, which is less boring. They are having a huge testrone fight. Haven't been able to get into it because it's about high-school and a high school football coach, and I just don't care. Sports dramas, sigh. Seen too many. After a while you can predict what will happen in the formula before it does. For any Sports Drama versions out there, who have fallen in love with the form - highly recommend the following: "North Dallas Forty", "Hoosiers", "Everybody's All American", "Any Given Sunday", "All The Right Moves", "Brian's Song", "White Shadow" - about a high school basketball coach in the inner city - tv series. There was also a really good comedy starring Burt Reynolds as a coach, and one entitled "Coach". 

That said, the dialogue in this show, from what I'm seeing right now, really makes Gilmore Girls feel like it was written by amateur writers in comparison. Sorry Rebecca Rand Kirshner - I'm abandoning GG in favor of the better written FNL I think. If House was on, I'd be watching it, but no they had to move it back to 9 opposite VM. Which means I have to choose between the two.

So far according to the news - two things: 1) Connecticut has a Republican governor - doesn't bug me too much, she's a good one. By the same token, won't be too upset if Senator Lindsey, a Republican in South Carolina stays in office - he's also a good egg. Am closely watching the Missouri Clair McCaskill race (you know about this one - it's the one Michael J Fox did ads for and Rush Lumbagh made an ass of himself regarding, Rush is loved in Kansas City - or at least he was when I lived out there and went to law school, people keep thinking I'm from NYC, I'm not folks. I've lived in NYC the shortest amount of time. Lived in midwest for 17 years, my accent is midwestern.) Also the New Jersey one with Menedez and the one with Ned Lamont, looks like Lieberman will win - probably won't matter, running as Independent.]  2. Weather is not going to cooperate with me tomorrow - have two interviews in two separate buildings that require lengthy treks from subway stations in nice shoes and they are predicting 12 hours of downpours and a deluge. Damn. Damn. Damn.

Okay now to flip to Veronica Mars, am on the fence regarding this show. Should I flip to House? Don't know. Will stick with VM I think. Can always catch House in reruns.

[identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com 2006-11-08 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
there was also a really good comedy starring Burt Reynolds as a coach

That show was "Evening Shade" - it was pretty good. And I really like the FNL writing. It may well go predictable, but it has some really well written scenes.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2006-11-08 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, yes, that was it. I knew it was "Evening" something. One of the better situation comedies, sort of miss it.

It's the formula. So can't help but be predictable - particularly if you have watched too much of it. Nothing wrong with predictable as long as it is written well, has interesting characters, and is well-acted. Now when a mystery or a suspense drama/thriller is predictable *cough*Lost*cough* then we have a problem. Friday Night Lights? Not so much.Am considering renting the film in which it was based at some point - that got excellent reviews and is directed/written by Peter Berg the same guy directing and writing the series.

[identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com 2006-11-08 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
Sports shows can be, since they're never as unpredictable as a live event... but yeah. And this show gets me with Jason Street alone.

I never saw the FNL movie, but I really liked the book - which the TV show is now a few steps removed from.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2006-11-08 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
Only saw the last fifteen - twenty minutes of it tonight and will state was better written than anything else on at that time period. Will definitely look into checking it out again next week.

Oh bit of good news according to an insider at studio_60 site I'm watching on lj, it looks like NBC is keeping Friday Night Lights, Studio 60, and 30 Rock alive this year. They may be struggling as a network, but they are invested and standing behind these shows.

[identity profile] embers-log.livejournal.com 2006-11-08 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
I had Gilmore Girls on, but I was doing other things while it was on, just using it as background noise. They haven't had one good episode yet this year, which shows that losing the creators was a total loss....
I LOVED Veronica Mars and the whole cheating theme, I love these characters and the holes they dig for themselves.
Right now I'm watching House, which I taped, and I find that parts of it was pre-empted for election results (so annoying, if I wanted to watch the election results I would be watching a channel that was covering them). I'll have to catch the episode on rerun one of these days.

I was feeling good about the election when I had a nice walk over to the polls this morning, but of course Arnold is winning in a landslide and several good proposals are failing.... I can't help wondering if the election isn't fixed, but maybe I'm just getting paranoid.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2006-11-08 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, we had a couple of nice results from the election: Rumsfield is gone. (YAY!!) And the Democrats took control of the House and may get control of the Senate, for the first time since the beginning of the Clinton Administration.

Heard about Arnold taking California in a landslide. Bad news. Either the voters out there are nuts or the competition was worse?

Found the cheating theme on VM interesting, but growing bored with the show. It's not gripping me. But to be honest it usually doesn't start gripping me until after Xmas. Agree on GG.

[identity profile] embers-log.livejournal.com 2006-11-08 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, getting rid of Rumsfeld is huge, and it looks like the Senate will go to the Democrats after all (which will be exciting, it won't stop vetos, but it will put a lot of pressure on Bush).

Yeah, no one could hope to win against Arnold, so only some total moron would run (as a Democrat, the Green party candidate was really a very good candidate, but of course he had no chance of winning). Southern California loves having a movie star in the Governor's mansion, and Arnold spends untold millions to make sure no one has an chance against him. The only good thing about him is that he doesn't like to look bad, so he will occassionally do something good for the enviornment (not often, but occassionally) just so he doesn't look like ... well, Bush.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2006-11-08 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
He's also not as the ultra-conservative Bush. Tends to be more pro-choice, pro-stem cell, pro-gay rights. Not hugely so, but more so.

[identity profile] cjlasky.livejournal.com 2006-11-08 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Skipped VM and watched House. I absolutely hate the anvils they're dropping about a possible House/Cameron relationship, but I find that I'm enjoying the Tritter (Evil Cop) storyline, despite the legal implausibilities. He's obviously a narrative device to test the stresses in House's psyche and his relationships, but as long as the writers are actually EXPLORING those relationships, I don't mind the device.

(On the down side, I'm starting to become hypersensitive to the Patient of the Week formula, with all of its misdirections and possible conclusions.)

Watched Gilmore Girls for the first time in almost a year, and enjoyed it (with reservations). Rosenthal and Kirschner did a passable imitation of the Palladino Patter (TM), and Lorelai and Chris look like more of a natural and relaxed pairing than Lorelai and Luke. (Were all those stories about Lauren Graham and Scott Patterson's mutual discomfort true?) The supporting characters are closer to S1-3 now than at the end of the Palladinos' reign, and Rory is bearable again. Still, I can't even pretend to be interested in the Lorelai/Chris pairing, because you know that somewhere down the line, Chris is going to fuck it up. It would be against character if he didn't.

And, since I was the one who spammed you with the Fox news story about S60's cancellation, let me make up for it by relaying the good news: there's a good shot that NBC will pick up the series for the full 22 eps...

http://www.pastdeadline.com/2006/11/it_looks_like_s.html


[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2006-11-08 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL! Thanks. Yes, I've been tracking studio_60 progress on my own via a lj community devoted to it.
Apparently one of the posters - mother works for the network and stated that NBC was NOT planning on ditching the three TV shows it is proud of: Friday Night Lights, Studio 60, and 30 Rock and plans on picking up a full season for all three. Stating that My Name is Earl and The Office took a while to pick up steam, as did shows such as The West Wing and Hill Street. Which is true. The West Wing when it first premiered was struggling. Same with Sports Night.

Can't say I share your enthusiasm for GG. Been using it as background music generally. When I pay attention, very bored. Problem with romantic entanglements on TV is you need conflict and chemistry between characters. If they are too happy? Boring. If they are too far apart? Boring. Have to find the middle ground. Whedon realized in S2 of Buffy that ratings sky-rocketed whenever Buffy and Angel were fighting or there was a will they or won't they dynamic. When they were happily smooching and together? Ratings dipped. It was funny, especially considering the show was not about the Buffy/Angel romance - no matter how much some fans desired it to be. Same thing happened on Cheers, Moonlighting, Remington Steele, Veronica Mars....the list goes on. Heck it's a big thing in Soaps, Rule number 1 - no couple on tv can be happy for longer than three or four episodes without fear of losing the audience and getting cancelled. Conflict creates ratings.

You're watching House??? I thought you were a die-hard VM fan. Okay maybe not die-hard.
I'm on the fence with both to be honest. I prefer the cast in House - am a huge fan of Hugh Laurie, Lisa Edlestein, Robert Scean Leonard, Omar Epps, and now the ever-wonderful David Morse (who started his career on St. Elsewhere) and appears to be the show's answer to Professor Moriarity. But, the patient of the week bores me almost as much as the mystery of the week does - me and procedurals, unmixy things. Will say have more tolerance for medical mysteries - because no nothing about medicine or medical procedures so can't see all the mistakes in procedure - which explains why I like House more than Shark or Bones. Also, ahem, Hugh Laurie, who I think I'd watch read the phone book. VM on the other hand - has more interesting storylines, well, marginally so. This season it's been a bit slow.