On the first point about illegal wire-tapping. Actually, people have complained about it. The ACLU has brought several cases to the courts and I think one may have made it to the Supreme Court. Also there's a bill that Obama and Clinton both voted against - granting Verizon and other phone companies immunity for handing over private citizens phone records to the federal government. They refuse to do it without immunity. Don't blame them.
As far as the neo-con's or conservatives are concerned...ah. Well, this will probably sound like troll logic but their view is in some ways a bit analogous to how most of us probably deal with the fact that our company can read any email we send or a post we place on the internet while we are at work using their system. We figure they won't pay that much attention to us and do not have time to read all our emails, so why worry? (Assuming of course that your company has this policy, it may not - some don't have the ability to do it, most of the companies I've worked in however did.) Or how we deal with the fact that the federal government can access anything sent electronically over the net and look at it. (That's what happened to one lj user.)
Most Americans look at the whole concept of wire-tapping much the same way. My former boss - said that it made no sense to her why people whined about wire-tapping.
It's not like the government is listening in on all *your* conversations. They only care about people planning to blow up things or kill people. And if they'd had that capability sooner they would not have blown up the WTC and killed her co-workers. Her view is she'd rather be safe. Besides it's not like she's saying anything over the phone that is incredibly private. So she doesn't see the government as Big Brother - until it starts regulating companies and telling her what to do with her money.
Insane troll logic? Probably. But it is how many people think.
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Well...on the wire-tapping
Date: 2008-02-25 11:55 pm (UTC)Actually, people have complained about it. The ACLU has brought several cases to the courts and I think one may have made it to the Supreme Court. Also there's a bill that Obama and Clinton both voted against - granting Verizon and other phone companies immunity for handing over private citizens phone records to the federal government. They refuse to do it without immunity. Don't blame them.
As far as the neo-con's or conservatives are concerned...ah. Well, this will probably sound like troll logic but their view is in some ways a bit analogous to how most of us probably deal with the fact that our company can read any email we send or a post we place on the internet while we are at work using their system. We figure they won't pay that much attention to us and do not have time to read all our emails, so why worry? (Assuming of course that your company has this policy, it may not - some don't have the ability to do it, most of the companies I've worked in however did.) Or how we deal with the fact that the federal government can access anything sent electronically over the net and look at it. (That's what happened to one lj user.)
Most Americans look at the whole concept of wire-tapping much the same way.
My former boss - said that it made no sense to her why people whined about wire-tapping.
It's not like the government is listening in on all *your* conversations. They only care about people planning to blow up things or kill people. And if they'd had that capability sooner they would not have blown up the WTC and killed her co-workers. Her view is she'd rather be safe. Besides it's not like she's saying anything over the phone that is incredibly private. So she doesn't see the government as Big Brother - until it starts regulating companies and telling her what to do with her money.
Insane troll logic? Probably. But it is how many people think.