I added you to my facebook account. I put it under my *real* name as opposed to shadowkat.
Yeah, last night's episode was really confusing. I know what they are trying to do though. The centurions like the raiders are organic and machine. They can think for themselves. And they evolved, giving birth to their children, the human cylons who are made entirely of organic material - we saw their original experiments in Razor - where they captured humans to create hybrids.
Why would they allow skin jobs to run the show? They probably didn't initially. It happened gradually over time. Remember forty years passed. The metaphor is - kids take over from their parents, they push their parents aside, make them obsolete. Much like the cylons did with the humans.
The line Six kept repeating to Baltar in the first and second seasons- "This has all happened before."
The next generation or stage in the evolutionary process kills off and destroys the first stage. Does the first stage choose that? No. They get manipulated into it. The skinjobs probably found a way to control the Centurions and Raiders. The skinjobs in doing so, are no different than the original human creators. That's what Gina/Six is saying - we are no different than the people we are fighting.
The thematic structure is a circle - the cylons are taking on the traits of the humans, just as the humans are taking on the traits of the cylons, locked in a battle of mutual destruction where their worst enemy is not each other but rather themselves. When they look at each other, they are looking in a fun house mirror.
It's interesting, but also confusing and muddled in places. They are trying to do too many things at once and as a result losing some of the threads of the story. The flipping back and forth between the cylons and the humans works better if the two stories connect. These two don't really, except in a very subtle thematic sort of way. ie. Lee Adama is challenging Roslyn for a more democratic society, while Gina/Six is challenging Dean Stockwell's cylon for a more unified society. Both the challengers were formerly the military might. They are mirroring the two. But outside of the four new cylons hiding in secret, there is no direct connection, so the flips between are jarring and confusing particularly in 43 minutes. It's too much story in too short a time span.
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Date: 2008-04-20 03:53 am (UTC)Yeah, last night's episode was really confusing.
I know what they are trying to do though. The centurions like the raiders are organic and machine. They can think for themselves. And they evolved, giving birth to their children, the human cylons who are made entirely of organic material - we saw their original experiments in Razor - where they captured humans to create hybrids.
Why would they allow skin jobs to run the show? They probably didn't initially. It happened gradually over time. Remember forty years passed.
The metaphor is - kids take over from their parents, they push their parents aside, make them obsolete. Much like the cylons did with the humans.
The line Six kept repeating to Baltar in the first and second seasons- "This has all happened before."
The next generation or stage in the evolutionary process kills off and destroys the first stage. Does the first stage choose that? No. They get manipulated into it. The skinjobs probably found a way to control the Centurions and Raiders. The skinjobs in doing so, are no different than the original human creators. That's what Gina/Six is saying - we are no different than the people we are fighting.
The thematic structure is a circle - the cylons are taking on the traits of the humans, just as the humans are taking on the traits of the cylons, locked in a battle of mutual destruction where their worst enemy is not each other but rather themselves. When they look at each other, they are looking in a fun house mirror.
It's interesting, but also confusing and muddled in places. They are trying to do too many things at once and as a result losing some of the threads of the story. The flipping back and forth between the cylons and the humans works better if the two stories connect. These two don't really, except in a very subtle thematic sort of way.
ie. Lee Adama is challenging Roslyn for a more democratic society, while Gina/Six is challenging Dean Stockwell's cylon for a more unified society.
Both the challengers were formerly the military might. They are mirroring the two. But outside of the four new cylons hiding in secret, there is no direct connection, so the flips between are jarring and confusing particularly in 43 minutes.
It's too much story in too short a time span.