Actually, I was thinking about it right now, and while your analysis is possible...what is important is that the writers made a huge point of emphasizing Spike's status as a slayer killer, from multiple points of view and never once directly stated or mentioned that Angelus killed one or was even interested - outside of that very vague comment.
Giles in School Hard: Ohhh, Spike has killed two slayers...
Fool for Love, Buffy to Giles - who do we know that has killed a slayer and has inside information? Buffy to Spike - you killed two slayers - give me the goods, I give you the dough.
The demon in Buffy S6 who Spike is fighting for his soul from - "you were a legendary warrior...and now"
Spike to Clem: I've killed a slayer, that's what vampires do. Why haven't I killed her?
In Damage - the character who fights the slayer and is mutilated by her, and who she sees killing slayers is Spike not Angel. And it is Spike who shows remorse.
The character who wears the slayer's coat - again Spike.
I don't remember ANY mention of Angelus killing a slayer outside of that three word comment. Nor was it focused on by the writer of this story.
Spike is all about the slayer. It is his obsession. He sought her out. He is obsessed with slayers. Angel wasn't. He didn't seek Buffy out, Whistler lead him to her and showed him who she was.
Also it is important that of the two characters, while Spike was soulless and still evil or run by the demon, he not only fell for the slayer, he fought for her. Then, he got his soul for her. And he sacrificed himself to save her and her kin. Considering this is a guy who prided himself on killing slayers that's a switch. Not only that, but he turned against his own kind. He killed vampires, while soulless. He aided the slayer in killing them. He trained slayers.
Now, you have a storyline in which slayers are considered evil by the human populace and vampires are cool. The person spearheading this movement is Spike's ex-girlfriend, Harmony.
I didn't write that. The writers did. WHY?? If Spike isn't important to this story, why did they go to the effort of writing that and why not just write a sentence stating - Spike is dead. OR Spike is in LA. It would be easy. They could do it as a joke, have him preen on Larry King next to Harmony.
But they haven't.
And you haven't given me a good argument as to why. All you've stated is Angelus has bigger balls. But we already know that, that isn't important. That's why Angel is Twilight. What I want to know is where is the vampire who kills vampires, trained slayers, hangs with women who aid in killing vampires, not only gets off on female power, but is willing to sacrifice himself to aid in it. We got the epitome of paternalism, was the epitome of maternalism? Yin/Yang.
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Date: 2010-01-14 12:15 am (UTC)Giles in School Hard: Ohhh, Spike has killed two slayers...
Fool for Love, Buffy to Giles - who do we know that has killed a slayer and has inside information?
Buffy to Spike - you killed two slayers - give me the goods, I give you the dough.
The demon in Buffy S6 who Spike is fighting for his soul from - "you were a legendary warrior...and now"
Spike to Clem: I've killed a slayer, that's what vampires do. Why haven't I killed her?
In Damage - the character who fights the slayer and is mutilated by her, and who she sees killing slayers is Spike not Angel. And it is Spike who shows remorse.
The character who wears the slayer's coat - again Spike.
I don't remember ANY mention of Angelus killing a slayer outside of that three word comment. Nor was it focused on by the writer of this story.
Spike is all about the slayer. It is his obsession.
He sought her out. He is obsessed with slayers.
Angel wasn't. He didn't seek Buffy out, Whistler lead him to her and showed him who she was.
Also it is important that of the two characters, while Spike was soulless and still evil or run by the demon, he not only fell for the slayer, he fought for her.
Then, he got his soul for her. And he sacrificed himself to save her and her kin. Considering this is a guy who prided himself on killing slayers that's a switch. Not only that, but he turned against his own kind. He killed vampires, while soulless. He aided the slayer in killing them. He trained slayers.
Now, you have a storyline in which slayers are considered evil by the human populace and vampires are cool. The person spearheading this movement is Spike's ex-girlfriend, Harmony.
I didn't write that. The writers did. WHY?? If Spike isn't important to this story, why did they go to the effort of writing that and why not just write a sentence stating - Spike is dead. OR Spike is in LA.
It would be easy. They could do it as a joke, have him preen on Larry King next to Harmony.
But they haven't.
And you haven't given me a good argument as to why.
All you've stated is Angelus has bigger balls. But we already know that, that isn't important. That's why Angel is Twilight. What I want to know is where is the vampire who kills vampires, trained slayers, hangs with women who aid in killing vampires, not only gets off on female power, but is willing to sacrifice himself to aid in it. We got the epitome of paternalism, was the epitome of maternalism? Yin/Yang.