If you want to make a series of it, you need to come up with more of a story to tell than just "The zombies are still after us, run, shoot, scream!" If you compare this to, say, Stephen King's The Stand (which it's similar to in a lot of ways), there's an actual plot apart from the survival, we get to know what the characters want, their differing motivations matter, conflicts arise between them, etc.
Ah. Thanks for clarifying. Yes, I agree. I think, of all things, Resident Evil is a good one to compare to. Resident Evil based on a video game - actually has more plot and characterization than the Walking Dead. (Not filmed as well, maybe.) And that's saying something. And you're right about The Stand - Stephen King oddly is the opposite of most tv writers, he overwrites. With King - you pretty much know everything you ever possibly wanted to know about every single character, leaves little to the imagination. While the Walking Dead...sort of underwriters, creating somewhat stock characters. Rick Grimes and Shane feel very much like stock characters to me at the moment, so agree - under-developed. Actually all the characters are - with the possible exception of Andrea but only because we got that nifty fishing tale.
though Darabont's decision to fire his entire writing staff and have freelancers piece s2 together doesn't fill me with confidence.
Darabont fired his entire writing staff?? He must have realized there was a problem? OR was it money related? And he's doing freelancers? Uhhh...okaaay. No, that does not bode well at all.
Either give me a character drama or a tight plot.
It will definitely lose me eventually if it doesn't have either. Right now, I'm sort of interested in Andrea, Glenn, and Dale. But you're correct they haven't been developed yet. And Grimes is pretty much boilerplate.
I would say Mad Men isn't in itself sexist so much as a story about sexism (among other things).
True. Should clarify - I was talking about Rubicon and Breaking Bad - which felt very male focused and sexist or gender imbalanced to me. Admittedly I've only watched 2-3 episodes of both, so should give Breaking Bad another chance before making a finale determination.
Mad Men to give it credit comments on sexism and at times feels like a feminist noir series - where the men are anti-heroes, and the women heroes. The true protagonist of that series - I think, may well be Peggy.
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Date: 2010-12-13 11:42 pm (UTC)Ah. Thanks for clarifying. Yes, I agree. I think, of all things, Resident Evil is a good one to compare to. Resident Evil based on a video game - actually has more plot and characterization than the Walking Dead. (Not filmed as well, maybe.) And that's saying something. And you're right about The Stand - Stephen King oddly is the opposite of most tv writers, he overwrites. With King - you pretty much know everything you ever possibly wanted to know about every single character, leaves little to the imagination. While the Walking Dead...sort of underwriters, creating somewhat stock characters. Rick Grimes and Shane feel very much like stock characters to me at the moment, so agree - under-developed. Actually all the characters are - with the possible exception of Andrea but only because we got that nifty fishing tale.
though Darabont's decision to fire his entire writing staff and have freelancers piece s2 together doesn't fill me with confidence.
Darabont fired his entire writing staff?? He must have realized there was a problem? OR was it money related? And he's doing freelancers? Uhhh...okaaay. No, that does not bode well at all.
Either give me a character drama or a tight plot.
It will definitely lose me eventually if it doesn't have either.
Right now, I'm sort of interested in Andrea, Glenn, and Dale.
But you're correct they haven't been developed yet. And Grimes is pretty much boilerplate.
I would say Mad Men isn't in itself sexist so much as a story about sexism (among other things).
True. Should clarify - I was talking about Rubicon and Breaking Bad - which felt very male focused and sexist or gender imbalanced to me. Admittedly I've only watched 2-3 episodes of both, so should give Breaking Bad another chance before making a finale determination.
Mad Men to give it credit comments on sexism and at times feels like a feminist noir series - where the men are anti-heroes, and the women heroes. The true protagonist of that series - I think, may well be Peggy.