The stylistic difference, to me, is that Revenge borrows very heavily from procedurals while running its arc. Whereas Ringer is a soap with a mystery at the core. Inasmuch as either have aspirations of succeeding "Damages", Revenge is farther along at this point.
Agreed. Revenge reminds me more of Damages, although Damages was tighter and more of a serial than episodic. Agreed that Revenge seems to be borrowing more from the procedural format. It also appears to be attempting to marry that format to the serialized soap opera. Which I find fascinating, the only other person I've seen attempt that was Joss Whedon. Although there may be others? I don't think Damages did, it was more straight serial neither soap nor procedural.
Though I'm slipping more into seeing it as an unintentional comedy.
LOL! Me too. It amuses me at any rate, more so than most of the new sitcoms. Vamp Diaries is also at times a comedy, but like Buffy - I'm guessing it's intentional.
Ringer really suffers from a lower-budget, lower-production value feel.
While it's definitely improved from the pilot...it still feels slapped together in places. Would love to be a fly on the wall during those production, editing, and network meetings. Do they just have a really low budget? Or is it poorly produced? Hard to tell. Equally hard to tell how much or how little the network is fiddling or has fiddled with it? Odd - they appear to have spent their entire budget on the marketing campaign - it had a great marketing campaign.
As per the nitpicks in Revenge - yeah - the younger triangle doesn't fit the rest of the show - it's coming straight out of S1 of The O.C. (without quippy Josh Schwartz dialogue) while the big kids are doing Dumas.
I was going to say Gossip Girl (the kid brother of Jake (who has the dog and boat) was the kid brother on Gossip Girl except with darker hair and not as likable), but The OC works too - both being Josh Schwartz series. They really need to drop that story line - but it isn't going to happen any time soon - considering it's the teens who found the body. Oh well, maybe if the show survives past one season, they'll disappear?
I'm assuming there was a real "Emily Thorne" who was once also in Juvie with Amanda, probably disappeared, and whose name she's taken over.
That would make more sense and with Count of Monte Cristo.
The bigger timeline discontinuity is the dog, which would have to be - given all the flashbacks - pushing 20, which would make him the Methuselah of Yellow Labs.
LOL! I was wondering about that too...assuming she was 10 at the time she got the puppy and she's 25 now...that's what fifteen years? Which isn't bad, but still an old dog. I've been told dogs usually live 12 years? Cats can live a lot longer. (Although mine never did.)
Also, as an aside, Emily VanCamp has now totally sold me on her ability to play that character.
I never had any doubts, but I also watched her in Brothers and Sisters...fairly good actress, quite versatile. She was in another show that I forget the name of that I watched once or twice. Thought she was older than 25. She must have started at 18.
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Date: 2011-10-07 09:57 pm (UTC)The stylistic difference, to me, is that Revenge borrows very heavily from procedurals while running its arc. Whereas Ringer is a soap with a mystery at the core. Inasmuch as either have aspirations of succeeding "Damages", Revenge is farther along at this point.
Agreed. Revenge reminds me more of Damages, although Damages was tighter and more of a serial than episodic. Agreed that Revenge seems to be borrowing more from the procedural format. It also appears to be attempting to marry that format to the serialized soap opera. Which I find fascinating, the only other person I've seen attempt that was Joss Whedon. Although there may be others?
I don't think Damages did, it was more straight serial neither soap nor procedural.
Though I'm slipping more into seeing it as an unintentional comedy.
LOL! Me too. It amuses me at any rate, more so than most of the new sitcoms. Vamp Diaries is also at times a comedy, but like Buffy - I'm guessing it's intentional.
Ringer really suffers from a lower-budget, lower-production value feel.
While it's definitely improved from the pilot...it still feels slapped together in places. Would love to be a fly on the wall during those production, editing, and network meetings. Do they just have a really low budget? Or is it poorly produced? Hard to tell. Equally hard to tell how much or how little the network is fiddling or has fiddled with it? Odd - they appear to have spent their entire budget on the marketing campaign - it had a great marketing campaign.
As per the nitpicks in Revenge - yeah - the younger triangle doesn't fit the rest of the show - it's coming straight out of S1 of The O.C. (without quippy Josh Schwartz dialogue) while the big kids are doing Dumas.
I was going to say Gossip Girl (the kid brother of Jake (who has the dog and boat) was the kid brother on Gossip Girl except with darker hair and not as likable), but The OC works too - both being Josh Schwartz series. They really need to drop that story line - but it isn't going to happen any time soon - considering it's the teens who found the body. Oh well, maybe if the show survives past one season, they'll disappear?
I'm assuming there was a real "Emily Thorne" who was once also in Juvie with Amanda, probably disappeared, and whose name she's taken over.
That would make more sense and with Count of Monte Cristo.
The bigger timeline discontinuity is the dog, which would have to be - given all the flashbacks - pushing 20, which would make him the Methuselah of Yellow Labs.
LOL! I was wondering about that too...assuming she was 10 at the time she got the puppy and she's 25 now...that's what fifteen years?
Which isn't bad, but still an old dog. I've been told dogs usually live 12 years? Cats can live a lot longer. (Although mine never did.)
Also, as an aside, Emily VanCamp has now totally sold me on her ability to play that character.
I never had any doubts, but I also watched her in Brothers and Sisters...fairly good actress, quite versatile. She was in another show that I forget the name of that I watched once or twice. Thought she was older than 25. She must have started at 18.