And she does have a point, the writers actually do a better job of addressing Spike's actions in SR than they do in The Pack. What's disturbing is fans shrug off the Pack, is it how they filmed it? And that I think was deliberate. Although I agree that they didn't think about it ahead of time, but I don't think they did after either.
Hmm, again, I'm not sure I agree. I've re-watched The Pack far more recently than I have Seeing Red, and the Xander AR scene is very much more like what you might call a 'conventional' rape scene - ie. Possessed!Xander is motivated by anger and a desire for power over Buffy. The dynamic is far closer to what we're given to understand is the 'normal' in cases of extreme sexual violence.
The Spike AR, on the other hand, despite the ultra-realistic/stark lighting/no music way it was shot - has this upside down dynamic going on where the rapist is motivated quite differently and in far more problematic a fashion - the result, I suppose, of taking something that Marti Noxon once did and inverting the sexes.
Losing the thread of what I was saying - I guess what I mean is, I don't think the AR in The Pack is shot in a way that makes it easier to shrug off. That people do, I think, is partly because Buffy shrugs it off so easily, which is the result of - as someone pointed out either in the original article, or in the comments - the structure of season 1. Like you say, they weren't sure at that stage if they were doing ST:TNG-like reversions at the end of each episode, or even if there would be a second series.
Oh, I dunno. They shouldn't have ignored it. On ther other hand, they should never have gone there in the first place if they weren't prepared to deal with the consequences - which they obviously weren't, either there or in season 6.
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Date: 2013-06-20 08:36 am (UTC)And that I think was deliberate. Although I agree that they didn't think about it ahead of time, but I don't think they did after either.
Hmm, again, I'm not sure I agree. I've re-watched The Pack far more recently than I have Seeing Red, and the Xander AR scene is very much more like what you might call a 'conventional' rape scene - ie. Possessed!Xander is motivated by anger and a desire for power over Buffy. The dynamic is far closer to what we're given to understand is the 'normal' in cases of extreme sexual violence.
The Spike AR, on the other hand, despite the ultra-realistic/stark lighting/no music way it was shot - has this upside down dynamic going on where the rapist is motivated quite differently and in far more problematic a fashion - the result, I suppose, of taking something that Marti Noxon once did and inverting the sexes.
Losing the thread of what I was saying - I guess what I mean is, I don't think the AR in The Pack is shot in a way that makes it easier to shrug off. That people do, I think, is partly because Buffy shrugs it off so easily, which is the result of - as someone pointed out either in the original article, or in the comments - the structure of season 1. Like you say, they weren't sure at that stage if they were doing ST:TNG-like reversions at the end of each episode, or even if there would be a second series.
Oh, I dunno. They shouldn't have ignored it. On ther other hand, they should never have gone there in the first place if they weren't prepared to deal with the consequences - which they obviously weren't, either there or in season 6.