* Hook trying to give Emma "true love's kiss" seems to imply he thought that would bring those memories back.
While he states it was admittedly a long shot...it's pretty clear that Emma and Henry aren't cursed. Their loss of their memories...had to do with the fact that from their perspective and well the perspective of the land without magic (ie our world) storybrook never actually existed. Regina gave Emma and Henry memories - replacing their old ones - but also not a curse.
I had trouble following a lot of the details of the curse/it's undoing, like as to who remembers what and where and etc. etc. I was under the impression that Emma and Henry would remember Storybrooke, but in order to spare Henry from bad memories of his time there, Regina adjusted the magicks to give them false memories-- such as Emma never giving up Henry for adoption.
It's hard to hear - I rewound several times and figured it out.
There's two things going on. One - Pan uses the curse and re-enacts it, except to instill the memories he wants in everyone, and erasing their own, with a caveat - he's killing everyone who was close to his father. Emma can't break this new curse or re-enactment because she's not tied to it like she was to the original version. In order to stop Pan from erasing everyone's memories/instilling his own and remaking Storybrook into Neverland...Rumplestilskin explains that Regina must use the scroll to completely undo her original curse, the foundation of Pan's, and only she can do it. When she undoes her original curse - it will cancel out Pan's curse completely - as if it never existed. Sort of similar to Rumplestilskin killing Pan with his dagger - he cancels himself out, because Rumplestilskin came from Pan, and he cancels out the dark one's magic - undoing all three. Think of the curse in the same way - she undoes both, by undoing the original. IT works better if you don't overthink it.
When Regina undoes the curse - the result will be that everyone who did not originate in our world goes back to their own. Except for Emma - who can outrun the undoing of the curse - because she's the savior (or rather she was the loop-hole in the curse originally. This means Emma has a choice, she can either go with everyone else - abandoning Henry, or stay - and have no memory of the last two years.
Note only Henry and Emma forget the last two years - because everyone in the land without magic forgets anything to do with Storybrook. These memories fade into fairy stories once again, and worlds separate from each other. The people who went back to the Enchanted Forest get to remember everything. No one can give them their memories back - they are "undone" along with the curse. All Regina could do was provide new ones to replace the negative pre-existing memories. And because they have no memories of Storybrook - they won't miss anyone from Storybrook.
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Date: 2013-12-19 12:16 am (UTC)While he states it was admittedly a long shot...it's pretty clear that Emma and Henry aren't cursed. Their loss of their memories...had to do with the fact that from their perspective and well the perspective of the land without magic (ie our world) storybrook never actually existed. Regina gave Emma and Henry memories - replacing their old ones - but also not a curse.
I had trouble following a lot of the details of the curse/it's undoing, like as to who remembers what and where and etc. etc. I was under the impression that Emma and Henry would remember Storybrooke, but in order to spare Henry from bad memories of his time there, Regina adjusted the magicks to give them false memories-- such as Emma never giving up Henry for adoption.
It's hard to hear - I rewound several times and figured it out.
There's two things going on. One - Pan uses the curse and re-enacts it, except to instill the memories he wants in everyone, and erasing their own, with a caveat - he's killing everyone who was close to his father. Emma can't break this new curse or re-enactment because she's not tied to it like she was to the original version. In order to stop Pan from erasing everyone's memories/instilling his own and remaking Storybrook into Neverland...Rumplestilskin explains that Regina must use the scroll to completely undo her original curse, the foundation of Pan's, and only she can do it. When she undoes her original curse - it will cancel out Pan's curse completely - as if it never existed. Sort of similar to Rumplestilskin killing Pan with his dagger - he cancels himself out, because Rumplestilskin came from Pan, and he cancels out the dark one's magic - undoing all three.
Think of the curse in the same way - she undoes both, by undoing the original. IT works better if you don't overthink it.
When Regina undoes the curse - the result will be that everyone who did not originate in our world goes back to their own. Except for Emma - who can outrun the undoing of the curse - because she's the savior (or rather she was the loop-hole in the curse originally. This means Emma has a choice, she can either go with everyone else - abandoning Henry, or stay - and have no memory of the last two years.
Note only Henry and Emma forget the last two years - because everyone in the land without magic forgets anything to do with Storybrook. These memories fade into fairy stories once again, and worlds separate from each other.
The people who went back to the Enchanted Forest get to remember everything.
No one can give them their memories back - they are "undone" along with the curse. All Regina could do was provide new ones to replace the negative pre-existing memories. And because they have no memories of Storybrook - they won't miss anyone from Storybrook.
Make sense?