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I'm losing track of television shows.

* Anyone out there seen the new sit-com "You, Me and The Apocalypse" ? It's apparently a Brit-American joint production which aired first in Britain. So I'm guessing a lot of people may have caught it? Worth checking out? Premiered tonight and I sort of forgot about it.

You need a rollerdex or a calendar to keep track. I had 62 hours of television shows recorded on DVR, I deleted five hours (Shades of Blue) considering deleting Shannara Chronicles and Shadowhunters. Which begs another question - were any of those worth watching? Haven't tried the new X-Files or Lucifier yet. I forgot about X-Files - so not taped. Lucifier is taped.

I'm tempted to do a poll.

Also, either my allergies are acting up due to the dry heat, mold, and dust build up, or I'm getting a cold. Been sneezing a lot lately. And can't breath. Have a humidifier, which is sort of helping. And I bought some Allegra, which you can apparently take with Zyrtec.

Better not be a cold. Although at least colds end. Allergies just hang around until the thing you are allergic to either dies or goes away.

Fanfic...was pondering this today. I've only read Buffy, Angel, Farscape, BSG, and Doctor Who fanfic. Trying to think...

Okay, there was a House fanfic that someone on my flist wrote, which I read, mainly because they wrote it.

I don't as a general rule tend to read fanfic based on novel series -- unless the writer is dead. I've read two - one in the Dragon-rider series (it didn't work for me) and one in the Kim Harrison Rachel Morgan series - (it also did not work for me). The difference between fanfic based on a television or movie universe and fanfic based on a novel universe - is if from television it's for different mediums. (The original is filmed/televised, while the fanfic is written). Or from a former copyright specialist perspective, they aren't really infringement, more an illegal derivative. If anything, they just help sell the original work. They don't compete with it in any way, not unless the original creators suddenly feel like writing novels - which doesn't quite work for television serials - too collaborative a process. (ie. There's about 150 original creators - the makeup artist, the sound editor, the writers, the actors, the musicians, the costume designer, the F/X specialist, the set designer, the lighting designer, the camera crew, the cinematographer, the director...it goes on.) While with a novel - you have just one creator, sometimes you might have a team, but usually it's just one person. And they are making their living selling books and stories based on the world and characters they created. If someone writes and publishes to the internet stories based on their world and characters for free or money, they are in direct competition with that creation and more or less piggy-backing or using the writers ideas to write their own stuff.

It's not the same thing as taking someone else's ideas and re-interpreting or adapting them to a new medium. Creating a derivative work - so to speak. That's more playful, and from my perspective permissible. But fanfic based on works like Harry Potter, Anne McCaffrey's series (although she's dead now, so maybe not), LoTR (also long dead), Chronicles of Narnia (ditto), Anne Rice's Vampire novels...feels a little skeevy. I can see why Ursula Le Quinn, McCaffrey (when alive), Anne Rice, and various other writers denounced it. It's not the same thing as writing a Doctor Who fanfic, or a Buffy fanfic. Nor is it the same as writing a Shakespeare fanfic. Again different medium.

Fanfic based on works of dead writers, long in the public domain, I have no difficulty with either. (Note LOTR and DragonRiders aren't in public domain. They are still owned by the families or estate.
Same is true I think with Gone with the Wind.)

But something about fanfic based on a novel, and to be clear, I mean written fanfic in the same medium, bugs the copyright attorney in me. Chaffs. (Although to be fair, I find the copyright law stance on the topic confusing and contradictory in the extreme. There's a reason, I ran away from copyright law. It's a quagmire. The rules change daily. Each country has its own. Some countries ignore it completely (*cough*China*cough*) while others only care about their own or close nieghbor's copyright laws (*cough*Germany*cough* -- although that may changed). )

Personally and for the most part, I tend to think fanfic is harmless. If anything, it just keeps your story alive. Hello, free advertising. I'd be flattered if people wrote fanfic using characters or a story that I wrote. But, then again, would I if it competed with my own work? If fans preferred it to my story? If it prevented me from continuing my own story in my own way? Or prevented me from getting paid for it?

Of course there is the view...that once your work is out there, you've no control over what happens to it. It is in essence no longer really yours. Sort of like having a kid graduate from college and get their first job. You see them occasionally, hear how they are doing, but that's it.

Regarding writing fanfic? Oh, I've dabbled. What writer whose ever been a die-hard fan, hasn't? (You may actually be able to find the dabbling in my livejournal -- if you look hard enough. If so, let me know, because I've lost track of the links.) But I'm not comfortable enough to do more than that...mainly because, it's someone else's sandbox that I'm playing in. And I feel like I'm this big hairy giant stomping about, Godzilla like, kicking up dirt and sand, trampling the natives. If I were to do their story justice, I'd have to be able to speak in their voice, see it from their perspective...or at the very least be able to see it from the majority of their fans perspective...and again, Godzilla trampling through town, stirring up a ruckus. OR worse, I lose myself, and my own distinctive voice in the process?

I'd rather be inspired by their work - I think. Blend it into my own. Which to a degree was what I did with Doing Time on Planet Earth - I was inspired by various television shows and books that I'd been watching at the time, and blended them into my work, creating something new. Felt a bit less like Godzilla that way.

That's not to say, however it may sound, that I don't appreciate what others do with fanfic. There some very good fanfic writers on my flist -- and I've enjoyed their fic. They've managed to play in the sandbox.

I think...it has a lot to do with well, how you personally think? It's like visiting someone else's house. Some people are comfortable going into a friend or acquaintance's kitchen, pulling out a bottle of beer/soda/water from the fridge, making a sandwich, and plopping in front of the telly. I'm not. Consider it to be a bit rude to be honest. I wait for the invitation. It's their house, after all. I'm a guest in it. I ask if I can help. I'm careful of the boundaries. If someone visits - I ask if they want anything and treat them as a honored guest (which may explain why I prefer not to have guests, too nerve-wracking and too much bloody work).

What can I say? I'm like a cat when it comes to territory, protective of my own and cautious in someone else's. (Well, except for the peeing part, have no desire to mark it, thank you very much.)

Date: 2016-01-29 04:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ann1962
You, Me and The Apocalypse. I stumbled upon it. I thought it was a little slow going with the setups of the characters, but once they announced the comet, it moved into overdrive, and was then really entertaining. Will watch again.

I've got a post-it on my laptop where I keep track of shows I want to watch. Don't always remember to look at it, but I have it, and added YMATA.

Date: 2016-01-30 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
Thanks, will check it out on demand.

Date: 2016-01-29 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londonkds.livejournal.com
I don't think fanfic competes economically with the original work even if it's in the same medium. From my experience, I think that the only time people are reading fanfic and not consuming the original work at all is because they had already given up on the original work because of declining artistic standards or controversial plot developments.

Date: 2016-01-30 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
I can think of a couple of instances where fanfic was deemed to cause a problem - and was either removed or sued. Not many, and I think both were between 1999-2006. One - the fanfic writer had come up with and written a story idea that the original creator was doing at the same time, and the creator was told about it, and well...but I can't remember if it was Buffy, Anne Rice, or Anne McCaffrey. Another, the fanfic writer was sueing the creator for stealing their idea (which is why creators refuse to read fanfic and get upset with fans who send it to them) -- personally, I think that's incredibly ballsy and rude of a fan. If I were a judge, I'd kick the fan out of court and fine them. (Which I think might have happened. Fair Use only goes so far.) Another case - was a fan who had created an Annotated Harry Potter Encyclopedia, which JK Rowling successfully shut down as copyright infringement - in part because it competed directly with a work that she was about to publish. (Fandomlawyers talked about it for months.)

So there are instances. I think with the internet - you can end up inadvertently crossing the boundaries of fair use in regards to fanfic. If over 1 million people read your fic -- that sort of goes over the line. It's a fuzzy line.
(Shrugs).

Off Topic: I can't comment on your dw posts, every time I try to -- the posting box goes black and I can't see the print. It's like I'm typing blind. Very weird. Not sure if it's just me...but I thought I should make you aware of it.
I tried a couple of times and gave up.


Date: 2016-01-30 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londonkds.livejournal.com
Maybe they did something that broke my style, which is very old. I've switched to a different one, maybe that will help. If not, do you still have a DW account? If so, can you report it as a bug because I can't see what's happening.

Date: 2016-01-30 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
Yeah, I do, I'll try that. I've been commenting under that account. Gave up posting - too difficult to cross-post, and 100% of my readers appear to be over here.

Date: 2016-01-29 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cjlasky.livejournal.com
Long X-Files review coming up. I'm waiting to see the Darin Morgan episode before I post.

Date: 2016-01-30 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
I should probably admit that I only really like the stand-a-lone episodes of The X-Files, which remind of The Twilight Zone at the top of its game. But the arc episodes or rather alien government conspiracy episodes....ugh. ;-) Which admittedly makes me an odd viewer of the X-Files.

Date: 2016-01-30 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cjlasky.livejournal.com
That's why I'm looking forward to Monday's ep. Darin Morgan always wrote stories that gave a gentle poke at X-Files' self-seriousness (but without devolving into parody). Humdrum, Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose, and Jose Chung's 'From Outer Space' are some of the best in the series.
Edited Date: 2016-01-30 05:09 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-01-30 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
According to what I've read -- the first two episodes are skippable, but the third episode is supposed to really good. So, I may record that one.

I liked the set-up of the X-Files, the Mulder/Scully, and Skinner, partnership...also several of the stand-a-lones were really good. Usually, I'm the opposite and prefer arcs, but X-Files, the stand-a-lones made that series.
One of my favorite episodes was the one with Lily Tomlin and Ed Asner as ghosts.

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