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[shadowkat]

1. I'm falling in fannish love for Joss Whedon again...weirdly. I've loved his last two interviews. And what he wrote on Tumblr about Hillary was wonderfully moving. The latest? This charming interview where he admits that he was a Buffy/Spike shipper all along.

Lastly, because I've seen a lot of people arguing about this online: Buffy/Spike or Buffy/Angel?

I’m a Buffy/Spike shipper. I always felt like he was a more evolved person, but that’s like saying Juliet’s going to be so happy with Benvolio and everyone will love it. Buffy/Angel is for the ages; Buffy/Spike is maybe for me. Actually, I’m a Spike/Angel shipper. Completely re-write the equation.

I feel validated. Been arguing that for years with crazy Spike and Angel shippers.

Come on, people, Spike was a heck of a lot more fun for the writer to write, and he didn't have all that much involvement with the Angel series, that was Greenwalt and Minear's baby. It wasn't until the last two seasons that Whedon was heavily involved.

{Okay enough ego stroking. I figure no on has been reading this anyway, so it doesn't matter.)

2. Frequency is bugging me -- the time travel story line doesn't quite work. They have things change in the past, but the main character isn't really all that affected in the future, physically.

The main character hunts down this killer in the present, while her father hunts him in the past. He beats her up. She beats him up. And when she's about to kill him, he disappears, because he got hit by a bus in the past, while her Dad was chasing him. So he disappears, and she's still banged up from fighting him, and still remembers all of it.

She shouldn't be banged up at all. Since it didn't happen. Nor should she remember any of it. Because didn't happen. She didn't travel back in time. So what, is there some mystical bubble around her that enables her to remember one time line and be physically affected by it, as well as the other? Also other people should be positively and negatively affected in various ways not just the protagonist. There should be more of a ripple effect.

This is my problem with Time Travel stories...the science doesn't quite gell. Timeless' writers are doing a better job of it than Frequency.

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[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

I'd have to agree...from a writing perspective alone, Spangle is a lot more interesting. You have the sibling dynamic, the mentor/student, the father/son, the history, the rivalry, plus the hint of homoerotic tension. Lots of things for a writer to play with.

I knew Whedon was a Spangle fan pretty much from Hole in the Wall, although it is hinted heavily at in Fool for Love, and various episodes in S2.

[cjlasky.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah--the Spike/Angel scenes at the Deeper Well might have been Joss' best work in the entire series. Quick pace, in-character quippiness, and banter that subtly reminded us that these guys have known each other for a century-and-a-half. Marsters and Boreanaz were just so smooth together here--could have watched a whole series with just the two of them.

[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

How about the scenes on the airplane there? I remember reading that Marsters and Boreanaz got together ahead of time and plotted out their motivations and back story. Discussing exactly how they saw their characters. And hung out a lot on set.

They had a great rapport.

And their scenes were some of the best in the entire series.

Actually, I think their scenes together in S2 were also amongst the best in the Buffy series...because they worked off of each other so well. And it was clear even back then -- how well they knew each other. No one could enrage Angel more than Spike and vice versa. And it was equally clear -- that they cared about each other deeply. There was a great love/hate dynamic going on under the surface.