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[shadowkat]

Watched Smallville this morning (I don't talk about Smallvill that much for obvious reasons - flist is sort of nasty about their dislike of it - even if they haven't watched more than a handful of episodes. Be sort of like me ranking on Bones - wait, I have, never mind.)

In last night's episode - there's a great line, that bears remembering, don't punish yourself for the mistakes of the past, shed the past and concentrate on the present. Worrying over the past, and fearing the future destroys today. Forgive yourself, forgive everyone else, and move on. Holding onto it does no one any good. Here it is shown whether then told, and it hit me that in some regards that was the main theme of Angel - a character so weighted down by his guilt over his past deeds that he became a monster in the present. He was unable to deal with his own guilt, it consumed him, and corrupted all that he touched. Similar theme in Smallville, Brainac 5 gets across to Clark that his guilt, his desire to punish himself and those around him for past mistakes that cannot be undone is the darkness that weighs him down, and his fear that the future won't end well - destroys it before it has begun. You have to be in the present. Learn from the past, but don't let it overwhelm and take over your life. That message resonated for me.

The other line I rather liked was Oliver Queen's to his interviewer: "We've become a nation of armchair critics, having created little more than a generation of bloggers...with no leaders..." Smallville has been on for about ten years. I prefer the last five years to the first five (which I found to be rather silly in places. I gave up on Smallville during Season 4, and was convinced to try it again in Season 7 by a co-worker who loved it. So I missed most of 4-6 or the college years.) At any rate because it's been on so long - it can reference the vast changes in technology. How the torch was once a newspaper and a wall of pictures, now it's viral or online. There's these nifty little touches that I've grown to love. Also the women on this show are kick-ass.

Speaking of women and film/television - there was an odd post that Whedonesque linked to on Sy-Fy
website:

http://blastr.com/2010/10/7-greatest-actor-director.php

[Found it courtesy of angeria .] It's a list of top ten actor/director relationships - I'm guessing in Sci-Fi. And has no women on the list and pairs James Cameron with Bill Paxton (of all people - he's a supporting player and never the lead in any of Cameron's works that I've seen nor featured in his prominent ones, and hello, Titantic was not Sy-Fy.), and Joss Whedon with Nathan Fillion (who was on a 13 episode series, quested on Buffy, a webseries, and a movie - Summer Glau was in just as many series and had a more prominent role.)

This list threw me. Most of these lists do, because I find myself quibbling with the writer on their top ten favorites. Let's face it they are incredibly subjective.

So my challenge to you - if you happen across this? Come up with five to ten actor/director relationships that involve women in Sci-Fantasy genre. Rules - the actor had to be in at least three of the directors films (at least that's the pattern I saw and have a major role - and the show last more than one season or be a film) and/or is connected to the director(writer) in a major way. It can be male/female or female/female.

Example: Joss Whedon and Eliza Dusku (Dollhouse, Buffy, Angel) - This actually works better than Whedon/Fillion for the following reasons. Eliza had top roles - in all three, she was Faith, an established character with a strong arc, and more than one dimension. She was on all three for more than one season. And all three lasted more than one season. She was also a producer on one of them and developed it with Whedon.

I can't come up with one, but maybe you can?

The reason I can't come up with one - is, I think the fact that there are more male directors and writers getting jobs than female ones. The industry is unfortunately still very racially and gender biased. Very much ruled by white men.

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[shipperx.livejournal.com]

James Cameron has Sigourney Weaver in 2 - Aliens and Avatar, and his ex-wife Linda Hamilton in T1 and T2. But neither of those actually match your criteria. (And Linda Hamilton was actually playing the same role in both).

To be honest, off the top of my head, I can't think of any that do fit the criteria, and that makes me sad.

[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

The only one I could think of were Helena Bonhem Carter/Tim Burton and Eliza Dusku/Joss Whedon. Can't really think of anyone else.
I guess you could say Jamie Lee Curtis and Carpenter - in his horror flicks? But not sure about that.

Most of the collaborations that come to mind are unfortunately male/male - demonstrative of how Hollywood works.