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After reading the newest book meme, I thought I'd do a little research, provide more information if I could - because I remembered when the Modern Library's notorious list was first released.

When the Modern Library - one of the imprints of Random House - released its list of 100 best or most influential books of the 20th Century along with the list that online voters/readers chose (I was actually one of the voters - although they didn't pick my number one choice which was Ulyssess by James Joyce), there was quite a bit controversary and hoopla over it. Why? The lack of minority fiction represented. The lack of works by non-English writers. The relative lack of women writers. People felt that a whole segment of the population was under-represented. Who were these judges anyway? And why were the majority of writers represented white men?

So, Radcliff Publishing course released their list.
And even more fascinating, the New York Public Library released a list of books and authors which they put on display when the millenium approached.
The best list is the NYPL list which I'm saving for another entry, this one being far too long.

So here? I'm just reproducing the Modern Library List, The Modern Library Reader's Choice List and the Radcliff list along with the one's I read in each list, which is embarrassingly few.



The Modern Library List of 100 chosen by writers and professors and editors of Random House.
The one's I've read are in bold.

1. Ulysses, James Joyce
2. The Great Gatsby, F. Scott Fitzgerald
3. A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, James Joyce
4. Lolita, Vladimir Nabokov (own it, seen both film versions, haven’t read it yet)
5. Brave New World, Aldous Huxley
6. The Sound and the Fury, William Faulkner
7. Catch-22, Joseph Heller
8. Darkness at Noon, Arthur Koestler
9. Sons and Lovers, D. H. Lawrence
10. The Grapes of Wrath, John Steinbeck
11. Under the Volcano, Malcolm Lowry
12. The Way of All Flesh, Samuel Butler
13. 1984, George Orwell
14. I, Claudius, Robert Graves
15. To the Lighthouse, Virginia Woolf
16. An American Tragedy, Theodore Dreiser
17. The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter, Carson McCullers
18. Slaughterhouse Five, Kurt Vonnegut
19. Invisible Man, Ralph Ellison (own, haven’t read yet)
20. Native Son, Richard Wright
21. Henderson the Rain King, Saul Bellow
22. Appointment in Samarra, John O' Hara
23. U.S.A. (trilogy), John Dos Passos
24. Winesburg, Ohio, Sherwood Anderson
25. A Passage to India, E. M. Forster
26. The Wings of the Dove, Henry James
27. The Ambassadors, Henry James
28. Tender Is the Night, F. Scott Fitzgerald
29. The Studs Lonigan Trilogy, James T. Farrell
30. The good soldier by Ford Madox Ford
31. Animal Farm, George Orwell
32. The Golden Bowl, Henry James
33. Sister Carrie, Theodore Dreiser
34. A Handful of Dust, Evelyn Waugh
35. As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner
36. All the King's Men, Robert Penn Warren (own, haven’t read yet)
37. The Bridge of San Luis Rey, Thornton Wilder
38. Howards End, E. M. Forster
39. Go Tell It on the Mountain, James Baldwin (own, haven’t read yet)
40. The Heart of the Matter, Graham Greene
41. Lord of the Flies, William Golding
42. Deliverance, James Dickey
43. A Dance to the Music of Time (series), Anthony Powell
44. Point Counter Point, Aldous Huxley
45. The Sun Also Rises, Ernest Hemingway
46. The Secret Agent, Joseph Conrad
47. Nostromo, Joseph Conrad
48. The Rainbow, D. H. Lawrence
49. Women in Love, D. H. Lawrence
50. Tropic of Cancer, Henry Miller
51. The Naked and the Dead, Norman Mailer
52. Portnoy's Complaint, Philip Roth
53. Pale Fire, Vladimir Nabokov
54. Light in August, William Faulkner
55. On the Road, Jack Kerouac
56. The Maltese Falcon, Dashiell Hammett (Own, haven’t read yet)
57. Parade's End, Ford Madox Ford
58. The Age of Innocence, Edith Wharton
59. Zuleika Dobson, Max Beerbohm
60. The Moviegoer, Walker Percy
61. Death Comes to the Archbishop, Willa Cather
62. From Here to Eternity, James Jones
63. The Wapshot Chronicles, John Cheever
64. The Catcher in the Rye, J. D. Salinger
65. A Clockwork Orange, Anthony Burgess
66. Of Human Bondage, W. Somerset Maugham
67. Heart of Darkness, Joseph Conrad
68. Main Street, Sinclair Lewis
69. The House of Mirth, Edith Wharton (own, haven’t read)
70. The Alexandria Quartet, Lawrence Durrell
71. A High Wind in Jamaica, Richard Hughes
72. A House for Ms. Biswas, V. S. Naipaul
73. The Day of the Locust, Nathaniel West
74. A Farewell to Arms, Ernest Hemingway (own, haven’t read)
75. Scoop, Evelyn Waugh
76. The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie, Muriel Spark
77. Finnegans Wake, James Joyce
78. Kim, Rudyard Kipling
79. A Room With a View, E. M. Forster
80. Brideshead Revisited, Evelyn Waugh
81. The Adventures of Augie March, Saul Bellow
82. Angle of Repose, Wallace Stegner (Fascinating book, I loved it when I read it. The writing style is reminscent of Walker Percy, Shelby Foote, a southern writer - where the language is key. The characters imperfect. I can't remember much of it, but if you like books that explore a family sort of like Thomas Hardy? You would like this , I think.)
83. A Bend in the River, V. S. Naipaul
84. The Death of the Heart, Elizabeth Bowen
85. Lord Jim, Joseph Conrad
86. Ragtime, E. L. Doctorow
87. The Old Wives' Tale, Arnold Bennett
88. The Call of the Wild, Jack London
89. Loving, Henry Green
90. Midnight's Children, Salman Rushdie
91. Tobacco Road, Erskine Caldwell
92. Ironweed, William Kennedy
93. The Magus, John Fowles
94. Wide Sargasso Sea, Jean Rhys
95. Under the Net, Iris Murdoch
96. Sophie's Choice, William Styron
97. The Sheltering Sky, Paul Bowles
98. The Postman Always Rings Twice, James M. Cain
99. The Ginger Man, J. P. Donleavy
100. The Magnificent Ambersons, Booth Tarkington



And now the Reader's Choice list for The Modern Library. This list was obtained from online and mailed in ballots to readers around the world. Mostly online. You could only vote once. In bold are the books I've read. And no I don't agree with the choices. Some of them ahem making you wonder about people.



This is the list people on the atpo board were complaining about. The cult list. It was voted on by online readers. Unlike BBC2 list, the majority of books seem to be by Ayn Rand and L. Ron Hubbard, which is sort of frightening if you think about it. The one's I've read are in bold. While I've read several by Rand, I haven't read anything by Hubbard, nor do I plan to. I have however read an embarrassingly large number of them - do to the fact I'm a sci-fi/fantasy fan.

1. ATLAS SHRUGGED by Ayn Rand
2.THE FOUNTAINHEAD by Ayn Rand
3. BATTLEFIELD EARTH by L. Ron Hubbard
4.THE LORD OF THE RINGS by J.R.R. Tolkien
5.TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD by Harper Lee
6.1984 by George Orwell
7.ANTHEM by Ayn Rand
8. WE THE LIVING by Ayn Rand
9. MISSION EARTH by L. Ron Hubbard
10. FEAR by L. Ron Hubbard
11.ULYSSES by James Joyce
12.CATCH-22 by Joseph Heller
13.THE GREAT GATSBY by F. Scott Fitzgerald
14.DUNE by Frank Herbert
15.THE MOON IS A HARSH MISTRESS by Robert Heinlein (can't remember if I've read this one or not, it is the one Tim Minear is writing the screenplay for though.)
16.STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND by Robert Heinlein
17.A TOWN LIKE ALICE by Nevil Shute
18.BRAVE NEW WORLD by Aldous Huxley
19.THE CATCHER IN THE RYE by J.D. Salinger
20.ANIMAL FARM by George Orwell
21. GRAVITY'S RAINBOW by Thomas Pynchon
22.THE GRAPES OF WRATH by John Steinbeck
23. SLAUGHTERHOUSE FIVE by Kurt Vonnegut
24. GONE WITH THE WIND by Margaret Mitchell
25.LORD OF THE FLIES by William Golding
26. SHANE by Jack Schaefer
27. TRUSTEE FROM THE TOOLROOM by Nevil Shute
28.A PRAYER FOR OWEN MEANY by John Irving
29. THE STAND by Stephen King
30. THE FRENCH LIEUTENANT'S WOMAN by John Fowles
31.BELOVED by Toni Morrison
32. THE WORM OUROBOROS by E.R. Eddison
33.THE SOUND AND THE FURY by William Faulkner
34. LOLITA by Vladimir Nabokov
35. MOONHEART by Charles de Lint
36. ABSALOM, ABSALOM! by William Faulkner
37. OF HUMAN BONDAGE by W. Somerset Maugham
38. WISE BLOOD by Flannery O'Connor
39. UNDER THE VOLCANO by Malcolm Lowry
40. FIFTH BUSINESS by Robertson Davies
41. SOMEPLACE TO BE FLYING by Charles de Lint
42.ON THE ROAD by Jack Kerouac
43.HEART OF DARKNESS by Joseph Conrad
44. YARROW by Charles de Lint
45. AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS by H.P. Lovecraft
46. ONE LONELY NIGHT by Mickey Spillane
47. MEMORY AND DREAM by Charles de Lint
48. TO THE LIGHTHOUSE by Virginia Woolf
49. THE MOVIEGOER by Walker Percy
50. TRADER by Charles de Lint
51. THE HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY by Douglas Adams
52.THE HEART IS A LONELY HUNTER by Carson McCullers
53. THE HANDMAID'S TALE by Margaret Atwood
54. BLOOD MERIDIAN by Cormac McCarthy
55.A CLOCKWORK ORANGE by Anthony Burgess
56. ON THE BEACH by Nevil Shute (not sure if read or not, might have been Alas, Babylon, the two are frighteningly similar, do own it)
57.A PORTRAIT OF THE ARTIST AS A YOUNG MAN by James Joyce
58. GREENMANTLE by Charles de Lint
59. ENDER'S GAME by Orson Scott Card
60. THE LITTLE COUNTRY by Charles de Lint
61. THE RECOGNITIONS by William Gaddis
62. STARSHIP TROOPERS by Robert Heinlein
63.THE SUN ALSO RISES by Ernest Hemingway
64. THE WORLD ACCORDING TO GARP by John Irving
65. SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES by Ray Bradbury
66.THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE by Shirley Jackson
67. AS I LAY DYING by William Faulkner
68. TROPIC OF CANCER by Henry Miller
69. INVISIBLE MAN by Ralph Ellison
70. THE WOOD WIFE by Terri Windling
71. THE MAGUS by John Fowles
72. THE DOOR INTO SUMMER by Robert Heinlein
73.ZEN AND THE ART OF MOTORCYCLE MAINTENANCE by Robert Pirsig
74. I, CLAUDIUS by Robert Graves
75. THE CALL OF THE WILD by Jack London
76. AT SWIM-TWO-BIRDS by Flann O'Brien
77.FARENHEIT 451 by Ray Bradbury
78. ARROWSMITH by Sinclair Lewis
79.WATERSHIP DOWN by Richard Adams
80. NAKED LUNCH by William S. Burroughs
81.THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER by Tom Clancy
82.GUILTY PLEASURES by Laurell K. Hamilton
83.THE PUPPET MASTERS by Robert Heinlein
84. IT by Stephen King
85. V. by Thomas Pynchon
86. DOUBLE STAR by Robert Heinlein
87. CITIZEN OF THE GALAXY by Robert Heinlein
88. BRIDESHEAD REVISITED by Evelyn Waugh
89. LIGHT IN AUGUST by William Faulkner
90.ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST by Ken Kesey
91. A FAREWELL TO ARMS by Ernest Hemingway
92. THE SHELTERING SKY by Paul Bowles
93. SOMETIMES A GREAT NOTION by Ken Kesey
94. MY ANTONIA by Willa Cather
95. MULENGRO by Charles de Lint
96. SUTTREE by Cormac McCarthy
97. MYTHAGO WOOD by Robert Holdstock
98.ILLUSIONS by Richard Bach (I remember reading it, but can't remember what it was about except I don't want to admit I read it.)
99. THE CUNNING MAN by Robertson Davies
100. THE SATANIC VERSES by Salman Rushdie

Weird list and more white male dominated, I suspect than the above one, hence the outrage.



Here's the Radcliff publishing course's response, which I've read more of and sort of prefer to the above two lists. Is it more balanced than the Modern Library List? You be the judge.



The books I've read are in bold.

1.The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald
2.The Catcher in the Rye by J. D. Salinger
3.The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
4.To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
5.The Color Purple by Alice Walker
6.Ulysses by James Joyce
7.Beloved by Toni Morrison
8.Lord of the Flies by William Golding
9.1984 by George Orwell
10.The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner
11. Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov (Okay this is the fourth list this book has appeared on, feeling guilty for not reading it yet.)
12.Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
13.Charlotte's Web by E. B. White
14. A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man by James Joyce
15. Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
16. Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
17.Animal Farm by George Orwell
18.The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway
19.As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
20.A Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway
21. The Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad
22.Winnie the Pooh by A. A. Milne
23. Their Eyes Are Watching God by Zora Neale Hurston (one of my picks for number one, along with Ulysess on Modern Library voters list...sigh.)
24.Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
25. Song of Solomon by Toni Morrison
26.Gone with the Wind by Margaret Mitchell
27.Native Son by Richard A. Wright
28.One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey
29.Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut
30. For Whom the Bell Tolls by Ernest Hemingway
31.On the Road by Jack Kerouac
32.The Old Man and the Sea by Ernest Hemingway
33. Call of the Wild by Jack London
34.To the Lighthouse by Virginia Woolf
35.The Portrait of a Lady by Henry James
36 Go Tell It on the Mountain by James Baldwin
37 The World According to Garp by John Irving
38 All the King's Men by Robert Penn Warren
39 A Room With a View by E. M. Forster
40 The Lord of the Rings by J. R. R. Tolkien
41 Schindler's List by Thomas Keneally
42 The Age of Innocence by Edith Wharton
43 The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand
44 Finnegans Wake by James Joyce
45 The Jungle by Upton Sinclair
46 Mrs. Dalloway by Virginia Woolf
47 The Wonderful Wizard of Oz by L. Frank Baum
48 Lady Chatterly's Lover by D.H. Lawrence
49 A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
50 The Awakening by Kate Chopin
51 My Antonia by Willa Cather (I read it but only vaguely remember it)
52 Howards End by E. M. Forster
53 In Cold Blood by Truman Capote
54 Franny and Zooey by J. D. Salinger
55 The Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie
56 Jazz by Toni Morrison
57 Sophie's Choice by William Styron
58 Absalom, Absalom! by William Faulkner
59 A Passage to India by E. M. Forster
60 Ethan Frome by Edith Wharton
61 A Good Man Is Hard to Find by Flannery O'Connor
62 Tender Is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald
63 Orlando by Virginia Woolf
64 Sons and Lovers by D. H. Lawrence
65 The Bonfire of the Vanities by Tom Wolfe
66 Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut
67 A Separate Peace by John Knowles
68 Light in August by William Faulkner
69 The Wings of the Dove by Henry James
70 Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe
71 Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier
72 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams
73 Naked Lunch by William S. Burroughs
74 Brideshead Revisited by Evelyn Waugh
75 Women in Love by D. H. Lawrence
76 Look Homeward, Angel by Thomas Wolfe
77 In Our Time by Ernest Hemingway
78 Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas by Gertrude Stein (Okay I remember this, but I'm not sure if I read it.)
79 The Maltese Falcon by Dashiell Hammett
80 The Naked and the Dead by Norman Mailer
81 Wide Sargasso Sea by Jean Rhys
82 White Noise by Don DeLillo
83 O Pioneers! by Willa Cather
84 Tropic of Cancer by Henry Miller
85 The War of the Worlds by H. G. Wells
86 Lord Jim by Joseph Conrad
87 The Bostonians by Henry James
88 An American Tragedy by Theodore Dreiser
89 Death Comes For The Archbishop by Willa Cather
90 The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame
91 This Side of Paradise by F. Scott Fitzgerald
92 Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
93 The French Lieutenant's Woman by John Fowles
94 Babbitt by Sinclair Lewis
95 Kim by Rudyard Kipling
96 The Beautiful and the Damned by F. Scott Fitzgerald
97 Rabbit, Run by John Updike (vaguely remember it.
98 Where Angels Fear to Tread by E. M. Forster
99 Main Street by Sinclair Lewis
100 Midnight's Children by Salman Rushdie

Well, read more on this list at least. Highly recommend Beloved for those who haven't read it. It's an odd ghost story - that deals with the concepts of guilt, forgiveness, clemency, pain and slavery and reclaiming a life. Brutal in its honesty. Also Their Eyes are Watching God - by Zora Neal Hurston - an amazing book about painful relations between people. Sort of poetic. Also controversial when it was written.

Re: On Joyce

Date: 2004-02-06 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomways.livejournal.com
Beat me to it! I agree profoundly that Portrait of the Artist and Dubliners are both incredible works. Indeed, I consider Dubliners better than -- wait for the heresy! -- Ulysses itself. Unfortunately, it wouldn't have qualified for the lists above due to the fact that it's a short-story collection, but I defy anyone to read "The Dead" and not recognize Joyce's genius.

Interesting...I've never heard that particular Joyce/Eliot connection (though they were definitely connected via Pound.) But there was an ethos -- indeed, almost a zeitgeist -- that permeated the entire era, and I have no problem believing the indebtedness
From: [identity profile] atpotch.livejournal.com
I decided to try to back up my claim with direct evidence, so started leafing through some books of Joyce's letters, and criticism of Ulysees between Knot Theory and Algebraic Topology. I love how life is just, as MacNeice manages to get, so many

Anyhow: this quote from Eliot, explained by a bloke called Declan Kiberd:

Eliot's seminal essay on 'Ulysees; Order and Myth', published in The Dial in 1923, reads like a nervous apology for his own poem and an implicit denial that he has simply imitated the method of Joyce:
In using the myth, in manipulating a continuous parallel between contemporeneity and antiquity, Mr Joyce is pursuing a method which others must pursue after him. They will not be imitators, any more than the scientist who uses the discoveries of an Einstein, in pursuing his own, independent, further investigation


So maybe not quite what a said, but certainly an interesting angle.

Interesting story...

Date: 2004-02-06 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomways.livejournal.com
Ezra Pound, the vastly generous (and quite arrogant and unstable) patron of so many great writers and poets of the era, worked tirelessly to promote Joyce when he was still a struggling young writer. But he could also be quite...tactless. While becoming a very influential advocate of Joyce's then-unappreciated prose style, Pound encouraged a book of poemss. He was, however, quite severely critical of them, which led Joyce to title the volume "Poems Penyeach" as a reaction to Pound's harsh evaluation of their worth.

I must have missed that Eliot essay, though I've read his non-fiction extensively in my study of his literary criticism. It is an interesting angle. The Exiles, after all, were part of a new movement, a tidal change in literature rather than a sea change. And no small part of that came from what can fairly be called nepotistic backscratching. Usually, that's a sign of decay and corruption -- it's nice to see it as an essential part of a truly innovative shift for once. Even the questionable ones -- Gertrude Stein springs to mind, because I find her quite unreadable -- were working to offer moral, financial and PR support for their deserving peers.

Re: On Joyce

Date: 2004-02-06 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
I agree profoundly that Portrait of the Artist and Dubliners are both incredible works. Indeed, I consider Dubliners better than -- wait for the heresy! -- Ulysses itself. Unfortunately, it wouldn't have qualified for the lists above due to the fact that it's a short-story collection, but I defy anyone to read "The Dead" and not recognize Joyce's genius.

Agree completely. While Ulysses is noted as being amongst the first novels to be written completely in stream of consciousness style. Dubliner's in my humble opinion is the better work. And that's saying a lot, since I'm not fond of short stories. They more often than not leave me unsatisfied. Dubliners never left me unsatisfied and made me feel deeply for every character.

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