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shadowkat1. I'm not sure if anyone is watching Lucifer outside of shapinglight?
Anyhow...I'm finding I'm enjoying it for the most part, except for the procedural bits or mystery of the week, which the writers don't appear to care that much about anyhow.
This past week's Lucifer was really good. Even brought back that 1990s song, What if God was One of Us by Joan Osborn.
The best part about this series is the character interactions, and the extended dysfunctional family dynamics of Lucifer's family and how they are interelating with Detective Chloe Deker's family.
They've done a good job of killing the faux love triangle between Chloe/Lucifer and her ex, by throwing her ex in bed with Charlotte, aka Lucifer's mom.
And I rather liked having God pop up, albeit maybe not...and Lucifer being fooled by it. A man wearing God's belt buckle or the divine buckle for the flaming sword, got imbued with the divine and thought he was God, to such a degree that so did Lucifer.
Charlotte realized he wasn't when she kissed him. But like Lucifer both were upset it was an illusion because they wanted it to be real. Both feel rejected by "God" and are acting out in rage. Although not enough to make sword work -- it needs two more pieces.
And the reason it needs to work is Charlotte aka Mom is breaking apart...and doesn't have much longer.
The additional characters this week worked better than previous weeks, God, the nurse who wanted to kill her mother because her mother had tortured her and now was killing everyone who figured it out or tried to stop her -- nice analogy to Lucifer and God. Setting it up so God would kill Lucifer...his son. And the Doctor who like Det. Deker doesn't believe Lucifer or God.
Doctor Linda did...and how she pushes at Lucifer about what he really wants, and how he has to let himself feel the pain.
Oh and God, he asks Lucifer if he really thinks he has no free will? That's Lucifer's problem, he doesn't believe he does, he can't own his choices...he believes it is all manipulated by God or all God's plan. He really has no understanding of free will.
And feels rejected by his father.
Loved that God embodied via belt buckle a Texas Oil Man. LOL!
2. Once Upon a Time Season Final -- this could have very easily been the series finale. And in some respects it was. And it ends happily. They make a big point of talking about new beginnings.
Over and over and over again. As if the writers want to slam home to the viewer that guess what, we are rebooting the show. Next year we'll have a whole new show, it's the same one, but a new beginning, new hero, new villains, etc.
I wish had faith in the writers to be innovative in this regard. But I read the break down and it's just a gender flip on the Henry/Emma bit. Now it's a little girl who finds her father, who has no memory of her, and asks him to help her, because his family needs him. The father is Henry Mills. So, instead of Emma being found by Henry, asking her to have belief. It's a little girl bringing the Once Upon a Time book to Henry and asking him to have faith...and the story she holds, is the story of his life in Storybrook.
My mother said the ending reminded her of Back to the Future 2 -- where they come back and say..."your family needs you". (This synced into a conversation about how the middle Back to the Future sucked, but parts 1 and 3 were pretty good. The only two things interesting about 2, was they predicted that the Cubs would win the World Series, and that someone like Trump would become President.)
The episode itself felt repetitive. I'd seen it before. Started fast-forwarding. The show, I think, has been stretched too thin. Not sure what they are going to do with Hook, Rumplestilskin and Regina...felt those characters had been sort of stretched thin as well, also redeemed as much as possible. What else is there to say? I mean how many times...can we revisit the same issues?
The problem sometimes with television series is they don't seem to when to call it quits.
3. In other news, finished The Smoke Thief -- and liked it a lot. Surprised me.
Granted the ending was...a bit on the syrupy side, but they all are. Anyhow, decided to read the next one in the series..."The Dream Thief".
Anyhow...I'm finding I'm enjoying it for the most part, except for the procedural bits or mystery of the week, which the writers don't appear to care that much about anyhow.
This past week's Lucifer was really good. Even brought back that 1990s song, What if God was One of Us by Joan Osborn.
The best part about this series is the character interactions, and the extended dysfunctional family dynamics of Lucifer's family and how they are interelating with Detective Chloe Deker's family.
They've done a good job of killing the faux love triangle between Chloe/Lucifer and her ex, by throwing her ex in bed with Charlotte, aka Lucifer's mom.
And I rather liked having God pop up, albeit maybe not...and Lucifer being fooled by it. A man wearing God's belt buckle or the divine buckle for the flaming sword, got imbued with the divine and thought he was God, to such a degree that so did Lucifer.
Charlotte realized he wasn't when she kissed him. But like Lucifer both were upset it was an illusion because they wanted it to be real. Both feel rejected by "God" and are acting out in rage. Although not enough to make sword work -- it needs two more pieces.
And the reason it needs to work is Charlotte aka Mom is breaking apart...and doesn't have much longer.
The additional characters this week worked better than previous weeks, God, the nurse who wanted to kill her mother because her mother had tortured her and now was killing everyone who figured it out or tried to stop her -- nice analogy to Lucifer and God. Setting it up so God would kill Lucifer...his son. And the Doctor who like Det. Deker doesn't believe Lucifer or God.
Doctor Linda did...and how she pushes at Lucifer about what he really wants, and how he has to let himself feel the pain.
Oh and God, he asks Lucifer if he really thinks he has no free will? That's Lucifer's problem, he doesn't believe he does, he can't own his choices...he believes it is all manipulated by God or all God's plan. He really has no understanding of free will.
And feels rejected by his father.
Loved that God embodied via belt buckle a Texas Oil Man. LOL!
2. Once Upon a Time Season Final -- this could have very easily been the series finale. And in some respects it was. And it ends happily. They make a big point of talking about new beginnings.
Over and over and over again. As if the writers want to slam home to the viewer that guess what, we are rebooting the show. Next year we'll have a whole new show, it's the same one, but a new beginning, new hero, new villains, etc.
I wish had faith in the writers to be innovative in this regard. But I read the break down and it's just a gender flip on the Henry/Emma bit. Now it's a little girl who finds her father, who has no memory of her, and asks him to help her, because his family needs him. The father is Henry Mills. So, instead of Emma being found by Henry, asking her to have belief. It's a little girl bringing the Once Upon a Time book to Henry and asking him to have faith...and the story she holds, is the story of his life in Storybrook.
My mother said the ending reminded her of Back to the Future 2 -- where they come back and say..."your family needs you". (This synced into a conversation about how the middle Back to the Future sucked, but parts 1 and 3 were pretty good. The only two things interesting about 2, was they predicted that the Cubs would win the World Series, and that someone like Trump would become President.)
The episode itself felt repetitive. I'd seen it before. Started fast-forwarding. The show, I think, has been stretched too thin. Not sure what they are going to do with Hook, Rumplestilskin and Regina...felt those characters had been sort of stretched thin as well, also redeemed as much as possible. What else is there to say? I mean how many times...can we revisit the same issues?
The problem sometimes with television series is they don't seem to when to call it quits.
3. In other news, finished The Smoke Thief -- and liked it a lot. Surprised me.
Granted the ending was...a bit on the syrupy side, but they all are. Anyhow, decided to read the next one in the series..."The Dream Thief".
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Date: 2017-05-21 04:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-21 01:36 pm (UTC)And Charlotte's first reaction to meeting "God" being to knee him in the nuts? Priceless.
In contrast, we broke up with Once Upon a Time last year, dumped it off the DVR and don't regret that decision. We might take a look at the first episode next season just to see what they do, but beyond that? Nope.
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Date: 2017-05-21 03:33 pm (UTC)It's watching Lucifer grow, watching him learn, improve and become a better person.
It's watching this man, this being, genuinely try and work on himself, even if he doesn't always get what he's doing wrong, or why, or might even work against himself at times. But that he keeps going, and keeps trying.
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Date: 2017-05-23 01:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-23 05:07 pm (UTC)The changes in Maze and Amandail -- surprised me, because the writers allowed them to become full-fledged characters that evolve and not funny sidekicks or antagonists.
They've also evolved Charlotte/Mom a bit more than I expected, along with Detective Dan, Trixie (the daughter), and the therapist, Linda.
They leads also have evolved, and the conflict that keeps them apart at the moment is innovative. No stupid love triangle. Just Lucifer's parental issues and who he is and who he thinks Chloe is. And the whole idea of what is real...I loved the conversation, where God Johnson asks him..."Wait, you don't think you have any free will?"
It's surprised me.
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Date: 2017-05-21 11:36 pm (UTC)And Amandail, Maze, Chloe and the psychiatrist double date? LOL!
In contrast, we broke up with Once Upon a Time last year, dumped it off the DVR and don't regret that decision.
I almost went that route. I stuck with it until Xmas. And then...only watched the last two episodes. None of which is worth watching in my opinion. My mother agreed with me, and she watched the entire season -- she said it was repetitive beyond belief. And the Dark Fairy (who apparently is Rumple's Mom) wasn't that interesting. She's right, the dark fairy wasn't.
They redeemed Hook three times for killing his Dad. Apparently once wasn't enough. And in the same way. It got redundant.
You were right to dump it.
I may check out the first episode next season as well, just to see if what they are doing...but it's unlikely I'll stick with it. I think it should have ended in Season 4.
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Date: 2017-05-23 01:51 pm (UTC)They redeemed Hook three times? :: throws up hands :: Glad I missed all that.
I'm disappointed that the Dark Fairy was Rumple's Mom. I preferred the fan theory that the Dark Fair was actually the Blue Fairy. That would have been a bit more entertaining, I think. But Season 4 would have been a good place to stop.
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Date: 2017-05-23 05:03 pm (UTC)Yep, I skipped round three of Hook's redemption.
I'm disappointed that the Dark Fairy was Rumple's Mom. I preferred the fan theory that the Dark Fair was actually the Blue Fairy.
Agreed. That would have been interesting. Having everything lead back to Rumple gets a bit old.
But Season 4 would have been a good place to stop.
It went a bit off the rails after S4. The writers didn't quite know what to do after that point.
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Date: 2017-05-23 01:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-23 05:00 pm (UTC)Yes, he killed his Dad in the past, because he was upset that his father had moved on with a new family. This was first shown in S5 during the hell year, when he had to admit it to his full brother, who Hook can't quite forgive for abandoning him (his brother and his father) they forgive each other, and Hook dies to save everyone, only to be brought back to like fy magic and fully redeemed in S5. But apparently the writers didn't think that was enough. So they did it again, this round his half-brother vows vengeance against him. Years later, in Storybrook, the half-brother turns up with Hook's old comrade Captain Nemo. And tries to kill him. Hook gets him to forgive him. Then, according to my mother, Captain Nemo returns, when Rumple and Belle's grown up son (Gideon) who was kidnapped by the Dark Fairy, sends Hook to Nemo to separate him from Emma. And they go through the whole thing again.
The show is like crack AU fic, that repeats itself.
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Date: 2017-05-27 10:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-28 03:45 am (UTC)Yeah, I think so too on the power couple. Curious where they go with it...