Lucifer Season finale
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shadowkat1. Started reading Whedon's Wonder Woman Script last night and...bwa- ha-ha-ha.. And not in a good way or rather I don't think its intentional. I can see why he had writer's block. He no idea what he was doing.
In fact I wondered for a moment or two there if I had the right script. It has Silver Pictures as a watermark, and starts with Steve Trevor going down in plane over a mysterious island. A "girl" pulls the plane door open, she's insanely beautiful, in an elemental way, and her shift that she is wearing is from another era, we'll call it Greek.
[And I'm getting flashbacks of the 1970s Wonder Woman television movie and series starring Lynda Carter.]
It is funny though. But weirdly amateurish so far, not at all what I was expecting.
Not that far into it. Steve's gotten out of the plane, been tied up, and taken prisoner by Diana and her companions.
So how's the movie? I'd like to see it. Maybe this weekend or next.
Wonder Woman admittedly has an odd history. The character and story was originated by William Moulton Marston a psychologist and feminist who...well created her as a sort of dominatrix, hence the lasso and the outfit. She first appeared in comics in 1941. Like Superman and Captain America, she first appeared in the comics during WWII, literally during WWII, not years later in WWII stories.
2. Lucifer Season Finale.
I can't believe they killed the baby grand piano. I liked that piano. And he'd just gotten it tuned and everything!
Other than that, it was a kick-ass season finale with a cliff-hanger that surprised me. I did not see that coming. I like Lucifer in part because it's unpredictable. Most of these types of series are predictable...this is one isn't. And they make fun of Christian mythos. And I love the characters.
Damn, I'm going to miss this show. After that cliff-hanger, I don't want to wait for the fall. I rewound it twice. Debating deleting it from DVR, because I actually have rewatched segments of it before. Lucifer has great season finales.
* Interesting how they got rid of Mum but kept the actress playing her. I didn't expect that, because I thought Charlotte herself, was dead not just possessed. Also, having Mum go into another dimension where she can give birth to her own universe and world, was a great idea. Go forward, Lucifer said, not backward. This way there are no casualties, no one gets hurt and she gets her fresh start. He also protects the human race from her wrath and any war she might cause.
Shows growth on Lucifer's part -- instead of throwing his mother into heaven with his father and letting them go to war, screw the consequences, in a juvenile pique, he chose to a third choice. He couldn't keep her one earth. He couldn't send her to hell, He couldn't send her to heaven. And he couldn't kill her. So he sends her to a new dimension.
Then Charlotte, after Mum leaves, wakes up and wonders what she is doing on the beach and why Lucifer called her Mum and who the hell Detective Dan is. (Will she still be a character?)
* Amandial -- still has some growing to do. He no longer feels rejected or like he's just a pawn to his father. But his inability to see past that to what is going on around him emphasizes his flaws. This was somewhat amusing, but also irritating. DB Woodside's blissful smile was hilarious...when he discovers, oh, I'm the favored, he trusted me with the key! And his bro moment with Detective Dan, who he places the key with for safe keeping. I loved how Lucifer found it on Dan.
Also the whole improv things...where Amandail, thinks he can work out his problems "literally" during improv, by discussing Daddy. Except his Dad is God, so that sort of breaks the religious rules of the group.
Hee.
Audience member: "Do two zookeepers trying to catch a giraffe...
Amandial playing one of the zookeepers to the other one: "How can you expect me to kill my father now?"
Dan: Uh, no.
Amandail: I thought you said this is how you worked out your issues?
But he does redeem himself, by finding a way to freeze time -- which saves Doctor Linda, who Mum almost killed in her attempt to obtain information. Linda's devotion to Lucifer is rather impressive. Having the goddess of creation torture me or have a glass a wine with her and tell her everything? I'd have gone for the wine. Lucifer isn't worth it.
And manages to save everyone else, because Lucifer manages to get Mum out of the shootout between Dan, Chloe and the bad guy, and to the other dimension, without anyone noticing. Thank you, Amandail. He also disposes of the nasty flaming sword by throwing it through the dimensional porthole which Mum voluntarily went through. But keeps Amandial's key separate.
* Lucifer also makes strides, he goes to thank Linda, and is remorseful, showing he truly cares for her. Then he gets an epithany of sorts, and decides it is time to tell Chloe everything, to show her his true face. But alas, is suddenly knocked out.
Then, and this part surprised me...he wakes up in the desert, sunburnt, shirtless, with his wings restored. Looking rightly confused and pissed off.
By the way? Tom Ellis is hot. Particularly when he's roughened up a bit. Although that sunburn looked really painful. So he'd clearly been there a while. I did wonder, however, why he was sunburnt. Isn't Lucifer invulnerable to the elements? So did they give him back his wings but take away his invulnerability?
Does Amandail have his time trick back? I really hope so. I liked the time trick.
I do love how these characters have evolved and developed emotionally through their relationships with each other.
Overall? Great finale. No quibbles. I even found the mystery of the week entertaining, although lately it's been firmly in the background. This week it was sort of surprising, because it was firmly in the background with the focus more on Lucifer and his dysfunctional family.
In fact I wondered for a moment or two there if I had the right script. It has Silver Pictures as a watermark, and starts with Steve Trevor going down in plane over a mysterious island. A "girl" pulls the plane door open, she's insanely beautiful, in an elemental way, and her shift that she is wearing is from another era, we'll call it Greek.
[And I'm getting flashbacks of the 1970s Wonder Woman television movie and series starring Lynda Carter.]
It is funny though. But weirdly amateurish so far, not at all what I was expecting.
Not that far into it. Steve's gotten out of the plane, been tied up, and taken prisoner by Diana and her companions.
So how's the movie? I'd like to see it. Maybe this weekend or next.
Wonder Woman admittedly has an odd history. The character and story was originated by William Moulton Marston a psychologist and feminist who...well created her as a sort of dominatrix, hence the lasso and the outfit. She first appeared in comics in 1941. Like Superman and Captain America, she first appeared in the comics during WWII, literally during WWII, not years later in WWII stories.
2. Lucifer Season Finale.
I can't believe they killed the baby grand piano. I liked that piano. And he'd just gotten it tuned and everything!
Other than that, it was a kick-ass season finale with a cliff-hanger that surprised me. I did not see that coming. I like Lucifer in part because it's unpredictable. Most of these types of series are predictable...this is one isn't. And they make fun of Christian mythos. And I love the characters.
Damn, I'm going to miss this show. After that cliff-hanger, I don't want to wait for the fall. I rewound it twice. Debating deleting it from DVR, because I actually have rewatched segments of it before. Lucifer has great season finales.
* Interesting how they got rid of Mum but kept the actress playing her. I didn't expect that, because I thought Charlotte herself, was dead not just possessed. Also, having Mum go into another dimension where she can give birth to her own universe and world, was a great idea. Go forward, Lucifer said, not backward. This way there are no casualties, no one gets hurt and she gets her fresh start. He also protects the human race from her wrath and any war she might cause.
Shows growth on Lucifer's part -- instead of throwing his mother into heaven with his father and letting them go to war, screw the consequences, in a juvenile pique, he chose to a third choice. He couldn't keep her one earth. He couldn't send her to hell, He couldn't send her to heaven. And he couldn't kill her. So he sends her to a new dimension.
Then Charlotte, after Mum leaves, wakes up and wonders what she is doing on the beach and why Lucifer called her Mum and who the hell Detective Dan is. (Will she still be a character?)
* Amandial -- still has some growing to do. He no longer feels rejected or like he's just a pawn to his father. But his inability to see past that to what is going on around him emphasizes his flaws. This was somewhat amusing, but also irritating. DB Woodside's blissful smile was hilarious...when he discovers, oh, I'm the favored, he trusted me with the key! And his bro moment with Detective Dan, who he places the key with for safe keeping. I loved how Lucifer found it on Dan.
Also the whole improv things...where Amandail, thinks he can work out his problems "literally" during improv, by discussing Daddy. Except his Dad is God, so that sort of breaks the religious rules of the group.
Hee.
Audience member: "Do two zookeepers trying to catch a giraffe...
Amandial playing one of the zookeepers to the other one: "How can you expect me to kill my father now?"
Dan: Uh, no.
Amandail: I thought you said this is how you worked out your issues?
But he does redeem himself, by finding a way to freeze time -- which saves Doctor Linda, who Mum almost killed in her attempt to obtain information. Linda's devotion to Lucifer is rather impressive. Having the goddess of creation torture me or have a glass a wine with her and tell her everything? I'd have gone for the wine. Lucifer isn't worth it.
And manages to save everyone else, because Lucifer manages to get Mum out of the shootout between Dan, Chloe and the bad guy, and to the other dimension, without anyone noticing. Thank you, Amandail. He also disposes of the nasty flaming sword by throwing it through the dimensional porthole which Mum voluntarily went through. But keeps Amandial's key separate.
* Lucifer also makes strides, he goes to thank Linda, and is remorseful, showing he truly cares for her. Then he gets an epithany of sorts, and decides it is time to tell Chloe everything, to show her his true face. But alas, is suddenly knocked out.
Then, and this part surprised me...he wakes up in the desert, sunburnt, shirtless, with his wings restored. Looking rightly confused and pissed off.
By the way? Tom Ellis is hot. Particularly when he's roughened up a bit. Although that sunburn looked really painful. So he'd clearly been there a while. I did wonder, however, why he was sunburnt. Isn't Lucifer invulnerable to the elements? So did they give him back his wings but take away his invulnerability?
Does Amandail have his time trick back? I really hope so. I liked the time trick.
I do love how these characters have evolved and developed emotionally through their relationships with each other.
Overall? Great finale. No quibbles. I even found the mystery of the week entertaining, although lately it's been firmly in the background. This week it was sort of surprising, because it was firmly in the background with the focus more on Lucifer and his dysfunctional family.
Re: Wonder Woman
Date: 2017-06-02 03:54 am (UTC)Would you like to see it with me on Saturday (at the theater of your choice)?
Re: Wonder Woman
Date: 2017-06-02 12:52 pm (UTC)Hmmm...yes, I would, but it would have to be in the afternoon. I have an appointment in Forte Green 11-12.
I'm in Kensington now, below Prospect Park and Greenwood Cemetery, so either UA Court Street 12, the movie theater on 15th Street and Prospect Park, would work. Not Cobble Hill, I hate that theater - there's not leg room and the screens are too small.
Oh, email is gmail now. EarthLink is dead.
Re: Wonder Woman
Date: 2017-06-02 03:34 pm (UTC)Tomorrow afternoon would be fine.
Would you like standard 2-d (2:40 or 6:00)
Or fancy schmancy 3-d (1:20 or 3:40)?
Re: Wonder Woman
Date: 2017-06-02 05:13 pm (UTC)UA Court works.
2D (3D always gives me a headache - I don't see the point.)
2:40PM - I think I can make that. It will give us time to chat afterwards.
(let's see appointment in Forte Green at 11am - out by 12:30, home by 1, out again by 1:40....should be fine.)
Are you getting tickets online? If so, I'll pay you back. And meet you in front of the theater at 2:30?
Re: Wonder Woman
Date: 2017-06-02 07:57 pm (UTC)When I get home, will try to send you phone/email address via message.
Re: Wonder Woman
Date: 2017-06-02 09:34 pm (UTC)(Hm. Maybe that's not something to brag about.)
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Date: 2017-06-02 04:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-06-02 09:44 am (UTC)Until he returns in the new series by Holly Black and Lee Garbett, which is actually pretty good. ;)
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Date: 2017-06-02 09:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-06-02 05:07 pm (UTC)Interesting, I may have to check out the comics. I can see why he's not going to create his own universe in the television series -- no way they have the budget for that. It's not an HBO show, like GoT, so has a much lower budget. The Netflix and Premium Cable Shows have great budgets, because they are subscription oriented. But network shows...usually are more like Doctor Who's budget.
Henderson also confirmed that Tricia Helfer will still be in the show in season 3 as Charlotte. Not sure how that's going to work at the moment. Hopefully, they can do something good with it.
Found that interesting. It could work. She's a criminal defense attorney. And had a romantic liaison with Detective Dan. Also everyone thinks she's Lucifer's stepmom with amnesia.
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Date: 2017-06-02 01:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-06-02 05:02 pm (UTC)Yep, Whedon did the Wonder Woman origin story from the 1950s...I think. It's very similar. I got further last night..in it, and it's very dated and doesn't quite work for a modern audience. I think he read a bunch of comics and took that information and wrote from it -- being a stickler about the medium. Which is a mistake.
I know that the film version veered away from that somewhat. Just not sure how much. The film version uses a script by Allan Hellenberg and Zack Snyder, directed by Patty Jenkins.
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Date: 2017-06-02 06:06 pm (UTC)I also thought the Lucifer finale worked well.