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Anyone watch the Tony's this year?

I taped it. So am watching now. Spacey's song and dance opening number was rather weak, but his impersonations of Johnny Carson and Bill Clinton were good.

Highlights, commentary...

* While I'm not interested in seeing the musical Dear Evan Hansen, I adore this song and performance. Found it...very relatable, which also reminded of a poem a college friend wrote and gave to me ages ago.

A theme song for those of us who aren't mainstream, and far from so-called "normal",
who as my niece states...are weird but in a good way.

* I am however interested in Natasha, Pierre, and the Big Comet of 1865, which is adapted from 70 page snippet of War and Peace. It's a combination of musical styles that puts Hamiliton to shame -- rock, pop, folk, ballad, traditional Broadway.

And possibly...Bandstand for the dancing.

* But actually more intrigued by the plays, particularly Oslo - which is part thriller, about what it would be like to sit across the table from your enemy and see them as human being. It won best play.

* Bette Midler has had too much plastic surgery or botox. She can barely move her face and it looks like a weird mask. I really wish people would just let themselves age.
She could barely see, her lids were covering her eyes. They all have impossibly high cheekbones, clearly been face-lifted.

Hello Dolly didn't do much of a performance, because the Producer wanted to to it at the Shubert, film it, and show it on the screen at the Tony's. But the Tony's forbid it, so instead they had David Hyde Pierce sing a song that had been cut from he original (except I'm pretty certain it was in the movie). Was disappointing. If you have Bette Midler, why not show her?

That said? I wouldn't go to see Hello Dolly again just to see Bette Midler. I'm somewhat ambivalent about the musical and Midler. I've seen the musical twice, and recently, and read the original play, and seen the film version of it -- The Matchmaker.
It's not that interesting of a musical.

Date: 2017-06-13 03:13 pm (UTC)
yourlibrarian: SPN-YeeshSamDean-yourlibrarian (SPN-YeeshSamDean-yourlibrarian)
From: [personal profile] yourlibrarian
Your comment about Bette Midler reminded me of a conversation I think we had a while back about how unrecognizable a lot of actors make themselves with excessive plastic surgery. Just yesterday in line at the grocery I pointed out a cover to Mike of Olivia Newton John and asked "Would you have recognized her? She looks like Generic Blonde #3" Salma Hayek mentioned this in an interview on All Things Considered this weekend saying she was getting parts in her 50s because she hadn't had botox and she could actually play her age. I think the Brits do this much better, basically looking like, say, the best 60 year olds they can be rather than trying to look 30 at 60.

Date: 2017-06-13 11:50 pm (UTC)
yourlibrarian: Giles Knows He's Ruggedly Handsome (BUF-RuggedlyHandsome-dragonydreams)
From: [personal profile] yourlibrarian
It's definitely easier if (a) you age well and (b) your career didn't rely heavily on your looks. For example, Meryl Streep has, in several recent roles, actually been altered to look worse than she does to fit the characters. Yet regardless of what she looked like you could be sure she would continue to be offered parts.

I actually think Helen Mirren looks at her best now, in that she outshines most women her age. She was obviously attractive when young but a lot of women are in that age. She didn't really stand out. And in truth I think in middle age she suffered from looking tired. But now, she's definitely a silver fox. Ellen Burstyn is another actress who was attractive when young but stood out as she got older. I think she was never prettier than in Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood.

But yes, the pressure's on for everyone. I thought this was an interesting reference:

Date: 2017-06-14 02:55 pm (UTC)
yourlibrarian: QAF Love (QaF-QAFLovebypaddies)
From: [personal profile] yourlibrarian
I wasn't entirely clear that he was from the interview though it seems likely. But if he is, that does seem to be an interesting artifact of this particular time period. 20 years ago if he was willing to take such a part he would have been cast. Now that those have very little effect on future casting (unless one comes out) they're as competitive as any other where name recognition will likely carry the day.

Oh definitely -- well there's all sorts of cultures where 50 Shades just seems juvenile (including fandom!) But I'd rather have seen Clafin as well not only because Dornan has seemed wooden to me in everything I've seen him in but because I can't see him as anything but the serial killer after The Fall. Which was apparently what James was going for since she loved his The Fall performance :/

Date: 2017-06-14 04:12 pm (UTC)
yourlibrarian: Brian and Justin Only (QaF-MyOnly-raelala)
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Yeah, I've never seen the appeal of Pattinson, clearly not my type. I also think if he had the chops he would have gone on to a bigger career. He was in two high profile franchises, people have managed to launch from less.

The Fall was a mixed issue for me. On the one hand, I hated the subject matter and couldn't see how anyone in his life didn't find his black hole emotionlessness creepy. But on the other I did like the writing and I liked the role for Gillian Anderson rather a lot. So I ended up watching all 3 seasons. I think they wrote themselves into a corner with it so the ending of the series was quite anticlimactic.

For 50 Shades I think fans clearly wanted someone with more charm, which is why Matt Bomer was who they were campaigning for (assuming Pattinson himself didn't take it). And they originally had Charlie Hunnan who was more of a middle ground (and also, given our earlier conversation, a sign of how casting people in gay roles had far less effect in the UK than US). But I don't see that 50 Shades has done anything for Dornan's career though it may have helped Dakota Johnson, who everyone seems to agree was the only redeeming part of the films.

Date: 2017-06-14 05:25 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I gathered it was well done (and also had Gillian Anderson!) but the subject matter was not something I thought I could forget about.

Date: 2017-06-14 04:05 am (UTC)
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I have heard really excellent things about Oslo from my godparents, who go to New York once or twice a year from Amsterdam to visit relatives and take in Stateside culture. They stay at the Y to save money for theatre tickets (which seems to me eminently sensible and rational, although I've met people who think it's strange). My godmother said Oslo was spellbinding, and she's not one to throw around those kind of adjectives lightly.


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