We few...we band of buggered

[shadowkat]

I'm speaking of the five people on my friends list who didn't think Ats 5.18 was the cat's pajamas and were just a little disturbed by the message at the end. I think it's five, may be less. Not sure.

Sigh. Bad day. Very bad day. Getting worse. It's past one and I should sleep, instead I keep writing and deleting posts.

Got some bad news tonight about my sister-in-law who just had the baby. She's in dreadful pain. Slipped disc and severe back contusion from her labor, which have made it impossible for her to care for her new baby. I'm terribly worried about her.
She's such a sweet person and so does not deserve this. And there's nothing I can do to help. My brother is keeping everyone but close friends away at this point - due to her fragile emotional state. (Her mother is not helping her, they had to throw her out). The whole situation makes me cry.
All my other problems, of which there are many, seem silly in comparison. There is nothing worse than wanting to help and being unable to.

Comments

Re: Ah what bugged me about Origin

[masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com]

Don't you think Angel got some of his come-uppance in this episode? The things he tried to undo were redone. Connor got his old past back (presumably) and you can't tell me there's not going to be psychological reprecussions from that the boy will have to deal with. He's only smiling on the surface.

And Wesley got his memories back, as will Gunn, as "did" Illyria, and Lorne as well. And as Illyria said, the lack of these memories changed who they were. The return of the memories, no matter how much Wesley says it won't effect him, WILL effect him.

This was sort of the cornerstone of the whole season, these missing memories and their significance. ME isn't going to just let this drop.

Re: Ah what bugged me about Origin

[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

Oh, he got some of it. But it still ended far too happily, sort of like You're Welcome does...with Angel under the false impression that things are okay. While that bothers me...the fact that it is 5.18 and not 5.22, gives me hope that these things will be addressed. I agree it is the cornerstone of the season - the turning point. There's been four turning pts so far: Destiny, Your Welcome, Hole in The World, and Origin.

I'm not clear on who remembers - do Lorne and Gunn? Or just the people in the room with Angel - ie. Connor, Illyria/Fred and Wes?
Illyria is the one I'm most interested in - because before Wes smashed the glass she only had fragments of Fred's memories, there was still more Illyria than Fred in there, now...whoa! She has a whole five years worth of memories, a duplicate set. The question is how will she process these memories?

If Lorne and Gunn both get them back - how will this affect Gunn's decision to stay in the penalty box? And how will it affect Lorne?

Like you, I'm also curious about Connor. But I'm not sure ME has time left this season to address those issues. Yes, he can forget the past, push it aside, but he has all this power - how do you deal with that? Not to mention the fact that he knows this life isn't the real one.

Re: Ah what bugged me about Origin

[masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com]

Well, Connor's life from this point on will probably be left as a fanfic exercise for the fans. Or maybe ME will get a chance in the future to address it a little, I don't know.

I am of the opinion now that when the box was smashed, it undid the whole memory wipe. Connor got his memories back, as did his new parents (who will have to deal with the situation as Joyce and Buffy did). So did Wesley, Illyria, and Lorne, although we only got to see Wesley and Illyria's reaction because Lorne wasn't around at the end of the episode, and Gunn had no memories at all at the time the box smashed.

Which means reprecussions are to come.