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shadowkatAre there any nice people? Depends on the day of the week I suppose. And the passing mood. Are there any nice fandoms, again day of the week and the passing mood. Any nice politicians - most likely not - they looked like they were going to eat each other alive in the gubernationational debate tonight (governor's debate for NY). You think you have problems? People aren't always nice.
Never really liked that word anyway. I prefer interesting. Nice makes me think of Miss Universe contestants with plastic smiles and speeches. Or Pollyanna with the Shirley Temple curls.
Remember getting into a bit of a debate with someone on a fanboard back in 2003, don't remember what it was about (most likely Spike or Angel - that was usually the subject, we fought about the same things back then that people fight about now, the arguments haven't changed, just the players) and they said that they thought of me as a nice sort of girl. My retort? Oh, whatever, gave you that idea??? Then I ripped apart his argument. It was not a proud moment, but admittedly fun. For some reason the word "nice" rubbed me wrong. It's such a boring word. Lacks texture. Flavor. Like the word sad or ugly. Well, it was fun, that is, until someone popped up and ripped apart my argument, and so on, and so forth...until we grew tired of pissing each other off and one upping each other, in what amounted to little more than an unwinnable pissing contest and called it a night or a month depending on the debate. You sing tomato..and I sing tomatoe...let's call the whole thing off.
What I love about my flist is the majority of it does not look at things the same way I do. Diversity while admittedly annoying is something I've always sought, masochistically at times.
They talked me into trying Angel the Series again when I completely gave up on it, and convinced me to see the characters of Angel and Cordelia in a new and different way. And they did it without pissing me off. They also...talked me into trying Doctor Who, even if it didn't work for me the first season or two. And a whole host of other things. The people I've known since 2003, when I first jumped on board this thing - have seen me go through a lot, as I have watched them. The ups and downs. We aren't always nice to each other, or even remotely tolerant, and I've had knock down, drag out battles with most of them - but in the end...it was a wash, and we called it a night and gave each other a cyber hug or wave or just a shrug.
Life or so I've discerned or gathered, my syntax sucks I know - why do you put up with me? is often about contentious relationships...and navigating our way through them. Work, net, etc...it's tiring at times. Wish it were easier. But hey, I snark therefore I am. And I try not to take any of it too seriously, laugh at this comedy of errors...and hopefully my self in the bargain. And don't sweat the small stuff...
It's late and to bed must go I.
Note to self - no more bubblegum after eight o'clock.
Never really liked that word anyway. I prefer interesting. Nice makes me think of Miss Universe contestants with plastic smiles and speeches. Or Pollyanna with the Shirley Temple curls.
Remember getting into a bit of a debate with someone on a fanboard back in 2003, don't remember what it was about (most likely Spike or Angel - that was usually the subject, we fought about the same things back then that people fight about now, the arguments haven't changed, just the players) and they said that they thought of me as a nice sort of girl. My retort? Oh, whatever, gave you that idea??? Then I ripped apart his argument. It was not a proud moment, but admittedly fun. For some reason the word "nice" rubbed me wrong. It's such a boring word. Lacks texture. Flavor. Like the word sad or ugly. Well, it was fun, that is, until someone popped up and ripped apart my argument, and so on, and so forth...until we grew tired of pissing each other off and one upping each other, in what amounted to little more than an unwinnable pissing contest and called it a night or a month depending on the debate. You sing tomato..and I sing tomatoe...let's call the whole thing off.
What I love about my flist is the majority of it does not look at things the same way I do. Diversity while admittedly annoying is something I've always sought, masochistically at times.
They talked me into trying Angel the Series again when I completely gave up on it, and convinced me to see the characters of Angel and Cordelia in a new and different way. And they did it without pissing me off. They also...talked me into trying Doctor Who, even if it didn't work for me the first season or two. And a whole host of other things. The people I've known since 2003, when I first jumped on board this thing - have seen me go through a lot, as I have watched them. The ups and downs. We aren't always nice to each other, or even remotely tolerant, and I've had knock down, drag out battles with most of them - but in the end...it was a wash, and we called it a night and gave each other a cyber hug or wave or just a shrug.
Life or so I've discerned or gathered, my syntax sucks I know - why do you put up with me? is often about contentious relationships...and navigating our way through them. Work, net, etc...it's tiring at times. Wish it were easier. But hey, I snark therefore I am. And I try not to take any of it too seriously, laugh at this comedy of errors...and hopefully my self in the bargain. And don't sweat the small stuff...
It's late and to bed must go I.
Note to self - no more bubblegum after eight o'clock.
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Date: 2010-10-20 03:03 am (UTC)My frustration with the comics is the same as yours. I was also reading Astonishing X-men and for some reason, when I heard Whedon was doing Buffy - I expected him to write it like he did Astonishing, with the same meticulous attention to detail, love of the characters, and delving into the evolving relationships. Was a bit disappointed when I realized Whedon was doing something else. I can't fault him for trying new things with his creations. I get that he's playing with sort of asburdist version of an Americanized Female Magna Bubblegum comic. But, it's not an easy thing to read...and I'm never quite sure how to interpret it. I'm either really offended and want to strangle the bastard, or highly amused. It's a toss-up.
I can see why the academically inclined on my flist are having a field day with the comics. Can equally see why the rest of the Buffy fandom wants to hang Whedon up by his toenails or has chosen my route, which is, having a blast making fun of them and Whedon, while we're at it. (The guy asked his editor of all people, who doesn't have a great deal of writing experience, to write the last three issues of the series because he got too busy. That's a new one.]
It's a very intimate thing to read or watch in a fannish way - we're letting things into our brains after all, it's hard not to get very particular about that. But yes, perspective is the key thing, and ultimately it's the creator's sandbox.
I very much agree with your statement here. Well put. There's a certain level of trust between a writer and the reader - that is established over time. The reader is investing their time and energy in reading the writer's work.
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The writer trusts the reader with his/her baby, to devour it, and relish it, and love it and understand it, while the reader trusts the writer to give him/her something wonderful. But it can have claws and it can scratch the reader's eyes out. There's a certain level of risk involved.
If the writer fails in his/her task - and disappoints the reader, he/she has lost the reader forever. The reader will drop the rope and not pull the puma towards them. They won't pick up that next book or story. And if reader fails the writer, and does not relish what they've gotten, the writer may stop playing in the sandbox, stop creating castles, stop weaving tales for the reader's consumption - he/she may keep such tales to themselves or direct the Avengers (another person's story).
I know this is true of myself, I am admittedly wary of sending out my novel to readers who may not relish or devour it. And I see it with fanfic writers and the professional writers on my flist, who flail in the same way. Writing in of itself isn't that hard, it's the sharing of it that keeps me awake at night.