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shadowkatAhem - this is a chatty, snarky entry not a rambling poetic one. It's a mood thing.
Right now, feeling very thankful. Spent the whole day stressing over whether or not I lost my wallet. Well not the whole day, from 12 noon until I got home, roughly at 5:30pm, earlier than usual but then I rushed out ten-fifteen minutes earlier to check on the frigging wallet. (Still put in 8 hours though, since didn't really do more than take a 15 minute walk around Bryant Park at lunch and got in the office early.) Anywho - the wallet was as I expected, tucked in the pocket of my wool coat where I'd absent-mindedly placed it after my trek to pick up stuff at the local bodega. Didn't remember to take it out again and put it in my bag, also wore a lighter jacket, so when I rushed out the door this morning? Wallet was still sitting comfortably in the coat. Spent all day hoping that was the case and it hadn't inadvertently fallen out of said coat on the way back from the bodega yesterday...it hadn't. People at work were sweet. One loaned me five bucks just in case my transit card didn't work and I couldn't get home. The card worked. The wallet was in the coat. Life is good. It's the little things that bug and please me nowadays.
Work...sigh. Less said the better.
Feel the need to write about the tv show Veronica Mars tonight, which is an interesting show but could very well become trite/cliche/redundant (not sure which is the right word here) or formulaic depending on how it handles two key mysteries.
During last night's episode - I almost flipped to House (no, I can't watch both), did actually during a commerical, but then things got interesting. Oh there were a few things that had me scratching my head, thinking, okay, did I miss an episode somewhere in there? When did Keith Mars and Wallace's Mom get so close? There was one episode that dealt with Wallace's Mom as far as I know of? Did I miss something? Felt oddly non-sequiteur. Other item - when did the Journalism teacher get knocked up? She was in the credits and in the show up until this episode, I think? When did the Pep Squad lady take over? Sort of jarring.
The Logan/Veronica relationship on the other hand is oddly enough working. And made this episode a keeper - just for those five scenes. The thing with this show - is the serial story is actually quite good, you just have to make it through the occassionally lack-lustre episodic mystery of the week. (Some are good, this week's? Not so good. Note to casting directors: the Home Improvement actors cannot act - seen them on two shows already and they just didn't deliver the goods.)
If you aren't following the show and just reading this for kicks, Logan was the boyfriend/lover of Veronica's best friend Lily. He, Lily, Veronica and Lily's bro Duncan used to hang in Junior High as the in couples. Then Lily got murdered, Veronica's father accused the Kanes, the town turned against them, Veronica's mother left, and Veronica got slipped the date-rape drug at a party she stupidly crashed at the Kane residence. This all happened approximately a year ago or two years ago. At any rate, Logan and Veronica had been at odds up until Xmas, when Veronica solved a case at Logan's poker party. Then Logan's mother disappeared and he came to Veronica for help. She helped him. Since then
their relationship has gradually been moving from baiting one another to aiding each other. Along the way the writers have begun to develop the character of Logan, providing him with a fascinating family and making him an excellent "shadow" to Veronica. ie. Both have mother's that took off on them under mysterious circumstances (they've sort of bonded over it). Both have single fathers - Logan's is a rich actor who beats him with a belt and he has no respect for and has no time for Logan, Veronica's is a private detective former sheriff who is supportive and loving. Both loved the Kane's, Veronica loved Duncan and was best friends with Lily, Logan loved Lily and was best friend's with Duncan.
The actors who play the roles - have great chemistry and play off of each other rather well. Hard to do.
At any rate, in this week's episode, Logan is on the phone with Veronica, when someone appears to take her hostage. He follows them and knocks the guy out. It's unnecessary since the guy was an ATF agent and not planning on hurting Veronica. She thanks him with a kiss on the cheek. He responds with an actual kiss that becomes somewhat passionate, until both break-away oddly thrown by the experience.
The kiss threw me, did not see that coming. Also those two actors may be the only actors on the show that actually have any sexual chemistry. Was jolted by it. So it worked. Didn't think they'd do that and certainly not this early in the series. Also could make things much more interesting...that is if they don't do what I think they are going to do with it.
Here's the thing - we know Veronica was date-raped at that party ages ago. She can't remember who, because the date-rape drug was used. There are only three possible suspects - Daddy Kane, Duncan, and Logan. Tonight's episode telegraphs that it was Logan, although I saw signs of that earlier. If they go that route? I'm watching House. Sorry, seen that story done on one too many soap operas and tv shows. Plus it neatly dead-ends Veronica and Logan,
not to mention Logan's character. As well as any possible love triangles with Logan/Deputy Sheriff/and Veronica. And Logan is just too frigging obvious a choice. As is Weevil. The bad boy. Add to that - they just haven't built up the romance between Veronica and Logan enough for the revelation to be that horrendous or traumatic. The Deputy Sheriff? Sure. Logan? No. Dumb move all around.
Now if they have it be Duncan? I'm there. So many interesting angles you can play with that one. Also much more interesting to have it be the upright, nice guy, who was her boyfriend. Plus, how does Logan deal with it now that he's gotten close to Veronica? Did he know about it? Was he involved? What about
Veronica's friend who's now dating Duncan - how would she deal? Would she believe Veronica? Can Duncan plead epilespy? Much more fun.
The other mystery is of course who killed Lily Kane? Now this also has a few
suspects. Two that make the most sense: Duncan Kane and Veronica's mother.
I'm hoping they go for Veronica's Mom, because that opens up the biggest can of worms for everyone concerned. Hurts Veronica the most. Duncan is the obvious choice and the easiest. But if they choose him, you dead-end the character. If Duncan date-raped Veronica - yeah, you have more story. He killed his sister - not so much. Not as interesting. Veronica's mother on the other hand? Ahh...that is a nice twist. It also tracks - we know Kane security has had her mom under survellience, we know her mother was worried about something, we know Lily had a secret that she kept dangling in front of Veronica, and we know that Celeste Kane threatened to reveal the secret to Veronica, just as Veronica's mother threatened Kane with it.
Now this would be a nice corrollary: Veronica's Mom accidentally killed Lily - out of a fit of fear and anxiety. Duncan date-raped Veronica, partly because he saw it and he was told he couldn't be with her and he resented her for it.
That works. But I don't trust the writers to do it. I fear they'll go the other route, the safer, tv route, which is have Duncan kill Lily in a epileptic fit and Logan date-rape Veronica. In which case? I'll probably be watching another show. House is quite good actually.
Right now, feeling very thankful. Spent the whole day stressing over whether or not I lost my wallet. Well not the whole day, from 12 noon until I got home, roughly at 5:30pm, earlier than usual but then I rushed out ten-fifteen minutes earlier to check on the frigging wallet. (Still put in 8 hours though, since didn't really do more than take a 15 minute walk around Bryant Park at lunch and got in the office early.) Anywho - the wallet was as I expected, tucked in the pocket of my wool coat where I'd absent-mindedly placed it after my trek to pick up stuff at the local bodega. Didn't remember to take it out again and put it in my bag, also wore a lighter jacket, so when I rushed out the door this morning? Wallet was still sitting comfortably in the coat. Spent all day hoping that was the case and it hadn't inadvertently fallen out of said coat on the way back from the bodega yesterday...it hadn't. People at work were sweet. One loaned me five bucks just in case my transit card didn't work and I couldn't get home. The card worked. The wallet was in the coat. Life is good. It's the little things that bug and please me nowadays.
Work...sigh. Less said the better.
Feel the need to write about the tv show Veronica Mars tonight, which is an interesting show but could very well become trite/cliche/redundant (not sure which is the right word here) or formulaic depending on how it handles two key mysteries.
During last night's episode - I almost flipped to House (no, I can't watch both), did actually during a commerical, but then things got interesting. Oh there were a few things that had me scratching my head, thinking, okay, did I miss an episode somewhere in there? When did Keith Mars and Wallace's Mom get so close? There was one episode that dealt with Wallace's Mom as far as I know of? Did I miss something? Felt oddly non-sequiteur. Other item - when did the Journalism teacher get knocked up? She was in the credits and in the show up until this episode, I think? When did the Pep Squad lady take over? Sort of jarring.
The Logan/Veronica relationship on the other hand is oddly enough working. And made this episode a keeper - just for those five scenes. The thing with this show - is the serial story is actually quite good, you just have to make it through the occassionally lack-lustre episodic mystery of the week. (Some are good, this week's? Not so good. Note to casting directors: the Home Improvement actors cannot act - seen them on two shows already and they just didn't deliver the goods.)
If you aren't following the show and just reading this for kicks, Logan was the boyfriend/lover of Veronica's best friend Lily. He, Lily, Veronica and Lily's bro Duncan used to hang in Junior High as the in couples. Then Lily got murdered, Veronica's father accused the Kanes, the town turned against them, Veronica's mother left, and Veronica got slipped the date-rape drug at a party she stupidly crashed at the Kane residence. This all happened approximately a year ago or two years ago. At any rate, Logan and Veronica had been at odds up until Xmas, when Veronica solved a case at Logan's poker party. Then Logan's mother disappeared and he came to Veronica for help. She helped him. Since then
their relationship has gradually been moving from baiting one another to aiding each other. Along the way the writers have begun to develop the character of Logan, providing him with a fascinating family and making him an excellent "shadow" to Veronica. ie. Both have mother's that took off on them under mysterious circumstances (they've sort of bonded over it). Both have single fathers - Logan's is a rich actor who beats him with a belt and he has no respect for and has no time for Logan, Veronica's is a private detective former sheriff who is supportive and loving. Both loved the Kane's, Veronica loved Duncan and was best friends with Lily, Logan loved Lily and was best friend's with Duncan.
The actors who play the roles - have great chemistry and play off of each other rather well. Hard to do.
At any rate, in this week's episode, Logan is on the phone with Veronica, when someone appears to take her hostage. He follows them and knocks the guy out. It's unnecessary since the guy was an ATF agent and not planning on hurting Veronica. She thanks him with a kiss on the cheek. He responds with an actual kiss that becomes somewhat passionate, until both break-away oddly thrown by the experience.
The kiss threw me, did not see that coming. Also those two actors may be the only actors on the show that actually have any sexual chemistry. Was jolted by it. So it worked. Didn't think they'd do that and certainly not this early in the series. Also could make things much more interesting...that is if they don't do what I think they are going to do with it.
Here's the thing - we know Veronica was date-raped at that party ages ago. She can't remember who, because the date-rape drug was used. There are only three possible suspects - Daddy Kane, Duncan, and Logan. Tonight's episode telegraphs that it was Logan, although I saw signs of that earlier. If they go that route? I'm watching House. Sorry, seen that story done on one too many soap operas and tv shows. Plus it neatly dead-ends Veronica and Logan,
not to mention Logan's character. As well as any possible love triangles with Logan/Deputy Sheriff/and Veronica. And Logan is just too frigging obvious a choice. As is Weevil. The bad boy. Add to that - they just haven't built up the romance between Veronica and Logan enough for the revelation to be that horrendous or traumatic. The Deputy Sheriff? Sure. Logan? No. Dumb move all around.
Now if they have it be Duncan? I'm there. So many interesting angles you can play with that one. Also much more interesting to have it be the upright, nice guy, who was her boyfriend. Plus, how does Logan deal with it now that he's gotten close to Veronica? Did he know about it? Was he involved? What about
Veronica's friend who's now dating Duncan - how would she deal? Would she believe Veronica? Can Duncan plead epilespy? Much more fun.
The other mystery is of course who killed Lily Kane? Now this also has a few
suspects. Two that make the most sense: Duncan Kane and Veronica's mother.
I'm hoping they go for Veronica's Mom, because that opens up the biggest can of worms for everyone concerned. Hurts Veronica the most. Duncan is the obvious choice and the easiest. But if they choose him, you dead-end the character. If Duncan date-raped Veronica - yeah, you have more story. He killed his sister - not so much. Not as interesting. Veronica's mother on the other hand? Ahh...that is a nice twist. It also tracks - we know Kane security has had her mom under survellience, we know her mother was worried about something, we know Lily had a secret that she kept dangling in front of Veronica, and we know that Celeste Kane threatened to reveal the secret to Veronica, just as Veronica's mother threatened Kane with it.
Now this would be a nice corrollary: Veronica's Mom accidentally killed Lily - out of a fit of fear and anxiety. Duncan date-raped Veronica, partly because he saw it and he was told he couldn't be with her and he resented her for it.
That works. But I don't trust the writers to do it. I fear they'll go the other route, the safer, tv route, which is have Duncan kill Lily in a epileptic fit and Logan date-rape Veronica. In which case? I'll probably be watching another show. House is quite good actually.
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Date: 2005-04-14 09:07 am (UTC)RE: Veronica Mars.
I don't think they'll go for Logan as the rapist and Duncan as the killer. From a pure show biz standpoint, that would pretty much knock Jason Dohring (Logan) and Teddy Dunn (Duncan) off the show, and there's no way they'll bump off either of those two guys. However, there is a possibility that Logan may have slipped Veronica the roofie (with non-sexual, but still malicious intent) and somebody else took advantage of her. In that case, Logan's not the rapist, but his relationship with V. takes a huge body shot.
All my money is on Lianne Mars (V.'s mom) as the killer. I just can't see anybody else. All season long, we've seen Veronica's quest for the truth screw up families by revealing their secrets (Mac, the Echolls, the transsexual dad in ep3, the Asian family in ep17, etc.). When better way to cap the season than have V.'s obsessive hunt for Lilly's killer ruin the family closest to her heart--her own?
I have only two questions: does Keith know Lianne did it? And what does Veronica do when she finds out the truth? Does she turns her Mom in, or does she preserve the lie and allow Abel Koontz to go to his death?
Well or
Date: 2005-04-14 12:41 pm (UTC)Mind you that might be a bit frusterating.
Actually, I quite like your scenario above, since...hmmm...yeah. We just got a 2nd season, we can't eliminate two of our main cast members, but setting up some screwed up plotage for next season would be a good idea.
Also, I'm curious to see where the theme of personal/interpersonal loyalty takes us.
Re: Well or
Date: 2005-04-14 12:59 pm (UTC)But Lianne would be a crusher for Veronica. If I were Rob Thomas, the trauma would just be too juicy to pass up.
Re: Well or
Date: 2005-04-15 08:40 pm (UTC)I'm not sure works. Too much circling back in on itself. It doesn't really lead you anywhere characterwise. It works fine if this were a short story or movie. Nice clever twist at the end. But for an on-going series, it wraps things up almost too neatly and I think maybe takes us back to the same emotional place Veronica and her father were at the start, the town fools. While that can be ironically amusing, I'm not sure it works.
Heh, well, it is my Evil Theory - Mwhahaha
Date: 2005-04-16 07:29 am (UTC)At some point, if you know, the show doesn't horribly disappoint me, there needs to be an analysis of everyone's names.
Though, I have just reached the point of huh, maybe I should have been keeping the episodes. It's always nice when a show starts to flip the analysis switch. Now I really want to go back the beginning and...think.
Re: Heh, well, it is my Evil Theory - Mwhahaha
Date: 2005-04-16 08:07 am (UTC)Agree - the naming here almost seems to be more deliberate than on whedon's shows. It hit me in the last episode where we have Veronica's name = Mars. And the town's name = Neptune. (Which is similar to Buffy's last name = Summers and the town's name = Sunnydale. ) All the other characters don't have names that fit with the town, just the heroine.
But we even titles of episodes here that are plays on names: Veronicas and Betty's, Kanes and Abels.
Also agree on the disappoint possibility.
Though, I have just reached the point of huh, maybe I should have been keeping the episodes. It's always nice when a show starts to flip the analysis switch. Now I really want to go back the beginning and...think
Yep, me too. Didn't take to the show immediately - but it has grown on me.
And somewhere along the way started to flip the old analysis switch.
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Date: 2005-04-15 08:30 pm (UTC)1.However, there is a possibility that Logan may have slipped Veronica the roofie (with non-sexual, but still malicious intent) and somebody else took advantage of her. In that case, Logan's not the rapist, but his relationship with V. takes a huge body shot.
I think this scenario is very likely. It tracks with the flashbacks we've gotten, is in character for Logan, and does not dead-end the character.
Actually - if written well, it is a perfect means of exploring the character of Logan and providing some growth. Logan through-out the season has gotten away with being a practical joker. He pulls pranks on people here and there. Doesn't have to pay for them and doesn't see the consequences. ie. the prank he convinces Weevil to pull on the Principal.
Or the pranks he pulls on his dad and has to do community service for but could care less. I can see Logan putting a drug in Veronica's drink, thinking nothing of it, just a childish prank - heck frat boys did it all the time in college - drugged your drinks/spiked them with ecstasy and LSD.
No big. But in this case - it allowed someone to physically take advantage of Veronica. Logan may have not intended that to happen...or maybe he didn't care at the time, but now it hits him where he lives. Very nice.
Plus breaks them up, but keeps the window open. If Logan date-raped her,
the window would be closed forever.
2. I hope you are right about Lianne being the killer. If I were writing this, it's what I'd do. But I don't trust tv writers. Story and characterwise it makes the most sense and provides the most fodder for future stories.
Plus if you have both 1&2 happen, you have plenty of conflict going on between Veronica, Keith, Logan, Duncan, and Weevil to last at least a full season, without the necessity of creating new conflict. Those two angles, right there - cause conflict. Also provides a nifty cliff-hanger, pulling viewers back for more. (ie. the viewers are satisfied by the resolution of the mystery, but anxious to see the reactions, how the characters handle the fall-out - and that makes great stories. Whedon was a master at it on BTVS. He resolved the main arc/mystery, but we'd have to wait until the next season to see how people handled the emotional fall-out.)