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Jun. 28th, 2005 06:37 pmUgh, 7:30. Damn. Must eat. Must work on novel. Did not mean to spend four hours on the net. But my system is slow.
Well...apparently I touched a button in those last two posts, people I'd never seen before came out of the woodwork. Where are you people when I do movie or book reviews? What is it about B/S that touches nerves online? You post on it and whammo! Every single time. A friend of mine once commented that BTVS fans are a contentious bunch. Yep. The whole fandom thing continues to unnerve me. (Should state here - only been in one fandom in my entire life.) On the plus side? If it weren't for the BTVS fandom - I would not have met people who share my interests in fantasy, sci-fi, gothic, horror, and cult tv shows, movies, graphic novels, anime, and books.
What's interesting - if you read the comments, is we aren't really talking about the BTVS show at all, so much as how women are portrayed in the romance genre and what effect if any that has on their roles in life? Why do I have gender issues, you ask? Well, I'm a woman, single, trying to make a living in NYC at the turn of the 21st century during a very conservative time in our history - where the greatest American was voted as Ronald Regan on a TV show. The top five? Men. Conservative men. And have experienced misogyny first hand.
Each day I'm assaulted by information on how I'm supposed to behave, who I'm supposed to become. And much of it from women. That in of itself, is disturbing.
Got home early today. Need to work on novel, but was so hot couldn't think.
Outside feels like a sauna.
Well...apparently I touched a button in those last two posts, people I'd never seen before came out of the woodwork. Where are you people when I do movie or book reviews? What is it about B/S that touches nerves online? You post on it and whammo! Every single time. A friend of mine once commented that BTVS fans are a contentious bunch. Yep. The whole fandom thing continues to unnerve me. (Should state here - only been in one fandom in my entire life.) On the plus side? If it weren't for the BTVS fandom - I would not have met people who share my interests in fantasy, sci-fi, gothic, horror, and cult tv shows, movies, graphic novels, anime, and books.
What's interesting - if you read the comments, is we aren't really talking about the BTVS show at all, so much as how women are portrayed in the romance genre and what effect if any that has on their roles in life? Why do I have gender issues, you ask? Well, I'm a woman, single, trying to make a living in NYC at the turn of the 21st century during a very conservative time in our history - where the greatest American was voted as Ronald Regan on a TV show. The top five? Men. Conservative men. And have experienced misogyny first hand.
Each day I'm assaulted by information on how I'm supposed to behave, who I'm supposed to become. And much of it from women. That in of itself, is disturbing.
Got home early today. Need to work on novel, but was so hot couldn't think.
Outside feels like a sauna.
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Date: 2005-06-28 04:39 pm (UTC)I find that my most innocent comments can often be "taken" in a bunch of other ways ...and usually NOT in the way I mean them ...
...I DO however read practicaly ALL of your posts ...and find that;
a) I agree wholeheartedly with a particular post
b) I missed the episode/book/movie that is the topic ...and so have no frikkin' idea what you're talking about ... ;-P
c) I started out on " the other side " of an issue ...but now find myself moving more towards the middle of the road BECAUSE of your eloquent explanation of a perspective I probably would never arrived at on my own.
d) I still disagree with you on an issue ... and since I enjoy reading your OTHER posts so much I decide not to stir up any BS !
;-P
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Date: 2005-06-28 05:12 pm (UTC)I don't know about anyone else, but what I learned from my mother on this subject, was that many women support the status quo because of fear. They fear the loss of their supposed femininity, their man, their life style. My mother feared all of these things. When you are pregnant for example, the worst horror stories come from other women. I think by doing this women are supporting the idea of the world they need to live in to survive. If the ideal is gone, what do they have left. Men do the same thing many times. The stereotype of what a man should be leads most men around. They feel less than if they don't live up to this. But it is such a waste of huge amounts of energy for all people. Such a waste to be who you are not.
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Date: 2005-06-28 05:59 pm (UTC)Remind me about this if we meet in NYC? I'd love to tell you about the office and last year, and my newest staff person. She is from Zimbabwe and whoo, are there stories; but I am not really comfortable putting those online. Personally, agreed. It's come a long way baby but not nearly far enough.
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Date: 2005-06-30 07:46 pm (UTC)I understand that - while I say a lot online, I keep stuff related to work or friends lives separate. Too risky to put it here. You never know whose reading. Heck - as these past few posts have proven, with all sorts of folks I've never seen before popping up.
Remind me about this if we meet in NYC?
I hope so. Right now playing it by ear. If all works according to plan, I'll be in Queens - Friday evening. Not sure yet about Sat.
I need to have one or two non-travel, me days to decompress.
Let me know how Paladain of Souls was - considered getting it the other day.
B/S still gets heat
Date: 2005-06-28 06:42 pm (UTC)As for B/S, I've always seen their physical punch and jab as metaphorical as both had "superpowers". You can hurt each other physically but not to the extent that you could a normal person, but....emotionally, you can destroy one another, and BTVS portrayed that with the constant physical punching and general pushing around they did. Except, of course, when they dropped the metaphor and went literal with the bathroom scene in Seeing Red. The physical stuff has always been tricky as it's not generally accepted that people punch each other as a form of greeting. The use of force, physical or mental could get me going on and on forever.
Rufus