Deviance

Sep. 14th, 2005 07:45 pm
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Nothing on TV tonight that isn't a rerun, although my next group of netflix discs came. So I could always watch Dead Like Me. May do that after finish writing this.

Watched Gilmore Girls tonight, had class last night - so didn't get to really watch GG until tonight. Was slightly disappointed. Lorelia, her parents, the inn, and Luke were interesting. Also adored Paris. Could have used less of the zanny bordering on annoying town folk and Rory/Logan friends. The Rory/Logan party was a tad dull. Although Logan remains oddly interesting. Not really tempted to switch to Bones in the least, from what I've read of it - it sounds like another procedureal, just with some nice banter. But without the focus on character that Moonlighting and Remington Steel had going for them, or for that matter the actors. The Closer as well. Even Monk. House has the same problem, too much focus on the medical mystery, not enough on the characters. Only reason I keep flipping to it is Hugh Laurie. But each time I find myself flipping through a magazine or taking a phone call half way through, bored.

Class was interesting. Discussed conformity, groupthink, and how people deal with deviant behavior. I like the teacher. Even if she is incredibly young. Odd to have a teacher who has to be ten years younger than you are.
Sort of discomboblating at times. Especially when she discusses the Challenger tragedy as if it were ancient history and something most people were too young to remember. Uh, okay, it was in 1986. Not that long ago.
I still remember it quite vividly. Makes me feel old.

What was interesting was how much of what she said made complete sense to me. At one point she asked the class if anyone had ever heard of Occam's Razor, and I'm thinking, yes, numerous times. Almost raised my hand to define it, but I'd said enough already and was beginning to feel a bit like Hermoine in Harry Potter. Prior to that she'd described an experiment - in which five or six people in a class 20 were put in three groups. One was a modal (the person assigned to take the temperature of the group and push for consensus, always for moderation, the voice of consensus), one a deviant (who was more or less the devil's advocate, who voice the opposite of what the group felt), the rest were sliders (the people who went from one end to the other, somewhat wishy-washy). The teacher asked the class which person was the most popular in the study. The modal, the deviant, or the sliders. The people in the class chose the deviant or the sliders. I chose the modal. And the modal was correct. (I chose the modal, because anyone who has spent any amount of time on a public discussion board knows that people hate the deviant voice, despise the sliders, and love the leader or the safe voice. I have yet to see a group of people not follow the consensus. People in class chose the deviant, because they tended to think oh the person who stands out from the crowd is cool. Yes, but do people like and follow them always? ) Answers to both questions came to me because of my experiences on a discussion board. Still trying to remember what the historical background of "Occam's Razor" is. I know Sophist on ATPO told us, but for the life of me all I remember is the definition - "sometimes the simplest answer is true." or "a cigar is just a cigar." Anyone know?

Anywho...thinking about deviant behavior, made me come up with a little meme - how I am deviant from my flist.

Here are six possibly seven ways I am deviant or walk to a different drummer. (And some of them amusingly enough break the rules of creating a successful blog, which may explain why I don't have a 100 people on my flist, not that I'm complaining.)


1. Rarely do quizzes (find the multiple choice questions annoying. And the ones where you enter you're name? Oddly off.)
2. Do not create icons or post new ones or create mood icons. (Must drive people nuts, especially the ones who give me paid account time, sorry guys. Don't own photoshop. And don't have the patience for it.)
3. Do not configure my journal in an interesting style with colored background (reason is simple enough, I need to be able to read the thing without going blind. So it is configured to be as easy on my eyes as possible.)
4. Do not like the following fan favorites (possibly not deviant, except to the extent of pointing it out to folks who don't want to know): Lost in Translation (I think I may be the only person on my flist who did not like this movie), Alias (anything after S3, liked first 3 seasons fine), Star-Gate SG1 and Atlantis,
Star Trek DS9 (although liked a few of the episodes I caught in the later seasons).
5. Have never done IM messaging, Bpal (don't know what it is), tried chat once or twice but not again.
6. Forget or rarely do the birthday wishes on lj, it's not personal, I'm just lousey at remembering and haven't figured out how to do the birthday link thingy which reminds you. Also don't update often enough. (which reminds me, happy birthday [livejournal.com profile] ann1962, there are far too many people in my life born in the fall...I either just gravitate towards folks born in the fall or they gravitate towards me?) (And yes, I think this may be considered deviant behavior...)

(Not really deviant, but possibly: 7. Rarely write fanfic. Wrote maybe one or two pieces but not posted anywhere outside of my lj, also never finished them. Ah doing a WIP and never intending to finish? That is deviant in a way. (That is if you don't include my attempt at a collaborative fanfic that is posted on ATPO.) Had very few readers. No - unlike most of the flist, the writing I'm known for is the media essays I wrote analyzing the characters, metaphors, and underlying themes of BTVS and ATS as well as the business of television in general. Or analyzing others fanfic whether they want me to or not, most likely not. Not sure that fits though, Better one may be an inability to format using html or a laziness regarding use of html to format my journal, so the paragraphs usually look a little wonky. )

In short: You have a person who loves to write but hates fiddling with the technical stuff writing a blog. And I'm stubborn. Makes me a bit of anomaly in the lj universe, I know. And if taken too far, could be considered "anti-social". Deviant behavior is not necessarily something group's by and large tolerate.

So, how do you deviate from your flist?

Date: 2005-09-15 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chase820.livejournal.com
Ditto on the not screwing around with LJ format. Mine is all about the words, baby.

Unlike 90% of my friendslist, I have no plans to watch Serenity. Ever.

Date: 2005-09-15 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
The constant postings on Serenity must be driving you nuts.

Date: 2005-09-15 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chase820.livejournal.com
Nah, I've learned to mentally screen them at this point.

Date: 2005-09-15 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cakmpls.livejournal.com
Let's see: I do quizzes; I think they're amusing, and sometimes they make me think of something new. And I do IM messaging, almost entirely with my son who lives in an apartment at the U of Minn. From your 5 items, that's it for me.

Date: 2005-09-15 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
So you don't deviate from well, at least my flist, just from me. (Because just about everyone on my flist does the same thing..IM messaging and quizzes.)

Date: 2005-09-15 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cakmpls.livejournal.com
Well, I deviate less from you than I do from anyone on your friends list who does three or more of the things that I don't do (as the only things on your list that I do are IM--about once every 3 days--and quizzes--way more than I should waste time on). OK, this is getting silly.

I couldn't make a similar list about my flist, I don't think, because I don't pay enough attention to some of that to even know whether individual people do it or not. I mean, I note some of those things when I'm reading ("Oh, X is doing a quiz"), but they aren't stored in my brain.

Date: 2005-09-15 02:25 am (UTC)
ann1962: (Posts like a girl)
From: [personal profile] ann1962
LOL, well I am definitely not like you on 1-3! My icons define my mood most days and that is very changeable. I do keep my journal very readable. Like you I don't like fancy fonts or tiny unreadable script. I like how your journal font looks bolded too.

Thanks for the birthday wishes. I think Arethusa had it right, what the heck were all of our parents doing those January nights!!

Date: 2005-09-15 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cactuswatcher.livejournal.com
Occam's Razor is named for William of Ockam, an English Franciscan who lived in the 1400th century. Basically his idea was not to waste time on things that added nothing to an argument. If you could logically prove something with three statements then giving four was a waste.

People frequently misuse the term.

I like old Bill

Date: 2005-09-15 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hankat.livejournal.com
I'm always pushing for folks to get to the point without all the extra bullshit.

Rufus

Date: 2005-09-15 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladystarlightsj.livejournal.com
I've fiddled around with my layout a little bit. Not too much.

The whole BPAL thing? Has totally gone over my head. I cannot get scent from descriptions, so am staying right out of it. Plus, I can't see paying for a scent that you can't test first.

I'm with you on the Alias, SG, SG-A and DS9 stuff. Just doesn't catch my interest.

But I IM, chat and revel in the icons. So there you go. Maybe not so deviant after all?

Date: 2005-09-15 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londonkds.livejournal.com
BPAL is "Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab", a perfume company with a sort of gothy/counter-culture public persona.

Date: 2005-09-15 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frenchani.livejournal.com
Well I don't write fanfic, I don't make icons, I don't have a paid account so I ignore many LJ cool things that the others seem to enjoy, I rarely talk about myself, my moods/feelings or my everyday life...even less my sex life. I mostly use my LJ to post cinema/tv reviews. I don't belong to other fandoms. I don't go to conventions. I don't make Spike manips, and I don't play with the characters of Spike (which means pairing him with anyone...sometimes I think that some fanfic writers/readers are playing with Joss characters just as we used to play with Barbies...). I'm "known" because I posted on the BC&S spoiler board and most of my flist came from there, the others having read my reviews or having friended me because they agreed about the Da Vinci Code (=that book is lame).

Oh and I'm French wich is quite deviant!!!!

But the quiz are sometimes fun and I indulge in the meme thing when I'm tagged because I don't want to hurt the taggers' feelings.

Chani



PS: Someone answered about Occam's Razor, but I wanted to add that Dan Simmons used that reference and Occam's maxims to build the character of Darwin in a good crime novel whose title is "Darwin's Sword".

Date: 2005-09-15 05:38 pm (UTC)
ext_30449: Ty Kitty (Illumination)
From: [identity profile] atpolittlebit.livejournal.com
Hmmm...

1. Quizzes. Funny thing, these. I do them, but very rarely ever post them. But if the multiple choice question are a) too many for whatever the topic is, or b) ask for favorite color and don't list purple? Back button. As for the longer memes, I do them sometimes but I never seem to be able to take them seriously.

2. Icons: making and using. I do this, but more because I'm very visual and like playing with images in many ways. Though I find I lack the proper artistic temperament when it comes to the Art of Icons.

3. Configuring the journal. Yep. But then I pretty much do it once, find something I like, and leave it alone after that.

4. Do not like the following fan favorites: Lost in Translation, Alias, Star-Gate SG1 and Atlantis, Star Trek DS9. Haven't seen, haven't watched, haven't watched, haven't watched and have been watching the reruns on Spike TV (which, rather disappointingly, isn't All Spike, All the Time, hee) but definitely not 'must see TV' for me. To 'deviate' even more, when I have the TV on (it tends to be background sound for me) it's more likely to be Trading Spaces or While You Were Out or HGTV stuff. If I'm gonna watch 'reality' shows I prefer they give me ideas and not humiliate people.

5. Have never done IM messaging, Bpal, tried chat once or twice but not again. IM. Hee! I mean, yes, I do IM. Bpal? Three words: Allergic to inhalants. Chat? Did a lot at one point (when there were current Whedon shows) but mostly replaced by IM.

6. Forget or rarely do the birthday wishes on lj. It's a weird thing, but once I miss someone's I feel like 'oh no, if I do the next one they'll think I don't like them' and then I don't do much of anyone.

7. Rarely write fanfic. Heh. Up until the recent episode of ATPo's virtual AtS s6, I'd have said 'never' write fanfic. Only did it then because I was asked. Definitely do not see myself as a writer.

Also a fall birthday. Funny that.
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