Vampire Diaries Snark-a-thon...
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Watching comfort tv shows tonight - basically cotton candy for my brain or shows that I can giggle at.
First up was Vampire Diaries - and guess what? They attempted to give Stefan a witty sense of humor and make Caroline complicated.
Show starts out with Caroline trying to figure out why she's looking at blood bags as if they are Godiva Chocolat Martinis. Black nurse is her first victim. But she lets the gal live. Go Caroline. Course explaining to Matt why she doesn't want to go near the sunlight is proving to be a bit of a problem. But luckily for Caroline, Matt ain't the brightest bulb in the cast. Yeah, you open the window, to bring sunlight into the room and your girlfriend has skittered to the farthest part of it, lightening quick, after almost dying, and nothing's up?
Meanwhile...Damon has found a new hobby - investigating the Lockwoods. What are they? Hey anything to distract him from the Everyone Loves Stefan Club. Gotta be more productive, right?
So far so good, Mayor Lockwood's widow has asked Damon to become the new head of the Council.
You remember, the Council set up to rid the town of vampires. He also manages to convince his brother Stefan to arm wrestle the new hunk in town (who sigh, does not appear to have a sense of humor, anyone else miss Uncle Jack?). Cute. Well-meaning. Endearing. But dull. Cue Matt - you have competition. Show? More witty characters, less well meaning incredibly serious ...brooding ones.
Stefan complies - because anything to distract Damon from his obsession with Katherine/Elena.
When Stefan loses the arm-wrestling contest. Damon accuses him of not even trying. But I did, insist Stefan - he doesn't have human strength...he's human, but not. Okay, Damon, says, then what is he? I don't know, says Stefan attempting to be witty, he could be a mutant ninja turtle?
A mutant what - asks Damon. Or a zombie or a werewolf. Damon - Not funny. You are not being funny. (Hee. Show has decided to give Stefan a sense of humor? Cool. Although must try harder.
Damon is right - that's not that funny. But points for the attempt. Also apparently the vampires don't believe in zombies and werewolves? Interesting. I mean - if there are witches and vampires, surely there are also werewolves and zombies and ghosts? Be a bit like believing in Bears but not Tigers, don't you think?)
Caroline gets out of the hospital - by compelling the nurse to let her out and in so doing remembers all of Damon's hijinks the previous year. Caroline and Jeremy decide to go after Damon. Stefan attempts to warn Jeremy not to, even after he tells Jeremy all the ways he can kill a vampire (uh, can't Jeremy figure this stuff out on his own - it's not like the knowledge is top secret or anything? Plus, he was in a relationship with one. No wait two.) But Jeremy ignores Stefan's advice and goes after Damon anyway - threatening to tell everyone he knows what Damon is. Damon shows Jeremy how bad an idea this is...by snatching his ring and pretending to snap his neck again. Then he throws the ring back at Jeremy stating, go ahead tell them, and I'll ram this ring so far up your ass you won't know what hit you. Jeremy goes off to sulk. Poor woobie. (Does anyone else miss Anna? I really miss Anna. Love that actress - that's the actress I wanted them to get for Dragon Tattoo or Let Me In. They keep killing off all the cool snarky tough female characters or write them out. It's annoying. Vicky, Miss Perl, Isobel and Anna had chutzpah. Caroline, Elena and Bonnie are too pretty and a bit too simpering for words.)
Damon compels Bonnie's new crush - the cute black guy with no name - into picking a fight with Tyler. (This show needs more minority characters and to stop killing off the only ones it has. Last year they killed off the cute black vampire with a conscience - who looked like a great love interest for Bonnie as well as Jasmine Guy's stellar Grammy Witch. Plus Torres (Zoe from Firefly) role as Damon's past significant other. Bonnie can't be the only black character in this show. Come on!) Poor guy does and almost gets himself killed, but Tyler's uncle steps in and jumps about like a monkey, which spooks Stefan, who keeps watch - either to protect the guy Damon compelled or to spy for Damon - not sure which.
Meanwhile Damon has had a nasty little confrontation with Caroline, who flips him across the floor. Damon is not having a good time with the ladies. Last week he gets dumped. This week
beaten up. Go Caroline. However - Damon decides this means he needs to kill Caroline.
So goes off to find Stefan and Elena for permission, and well to let them know what Katherine has been up to. They don't grant permission - because unlike Vicky, they happen to like Caroline. She's a pretty blond prom queen, who is ditzy and therefore harmless, and not a low-life drug-addicted waitress, therefore savable. Damon personally doesn't see any difference.
Caroline runs into Matt and gets all hot and bothered, and wants to drink his blood, but stops herself and goes after the no-name black guy who is nursing the bloody nose he got from fighting Tyler earlier. (Oh that poor guy! He's just having the worst luck! Talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time! And poor Bonnie - who just can't catch a break.) This guy dies. Damon comes upon the scene first and suggests that he should kill Caroline. But Elena and Stefan refuse to let him. See if it had been Jeremy or Matt? They'd have done it. But it is no-name black guy, who cares? Well, Bonnie...
Speaking of, Bonnie pops up and freaks out. Deciding to kill Damon because obviously it is all his fault. (In a way she's right - if he hadn't compelled the guy to fight Tyler - he wouldn't have a bloody nose, and if he hadn't given Caroline his blood - Caroline wouldn't have become a vampire. But on the other - if she hadn't persuaded Damon to do it, Caroline would have died naturally and not become a vampire either. Lots of blame to go around here.)
Bonnie gives Damon an excruciating headache. (Damn, I can sympathize.) And sets him on fire.
(ME: Oh right kill off the only remaining character with any personality or sense of humor! Kill Damon, and I'm done with you, show. But I'm not worried. They won't kill off Damon. Damon just won sexiest supernatural critter of the year. The network would have to be insane or stupid to let the writers kill off Damon. You don't kill of the reason people are watching the show. They will stop watching and then where will you be? Dead in the water. But seriously we need a female character who can snark too. It's not fair that the guy gets all the best lines. Sure we have Katherine, but she's not in every episode. This is when I miss Buffy. ) Hmmm, not sure the fire stunt accomplished anything Bonnie - outside of maybe re-emphasizing the point to Damon that he should be worrying about witches not whatever Tyler and his uncle are at the moment.
My favorite scene is the one at the end between Damon and Jeremy - where they bond over having fathers who were into killing vampires. Weird scene. Jeremy comes to kill Damon, but for some reason has a change of heart. Damon holding the stake that Jeremy has given him - "my father was into killing vampires too, except he was better at the wittling, granted was from the 1860s.." Jeremy - "oh, that was my first attempt, not as easy as it looks." Apparently Jeremy has decided that Damon might make great big brother material. Can't think why. I mean you'd think he'd go to Stefan - who you know, saved his life. Jeremy and his death wish.
Although the relationship does sort of remind me of Connor and Angelus, except with more humor and less predictability. There's potential here. Also, admittedly Stefan is a bit absorbed in Elena at the moment...he only sees Jeremy when Elena points him out to him. Damon on the other hand has actually taken an off-hand interest in the lad - even going so far as to explain what it is like to be a vampire and seeking to comfort him when Anna died - a death that moved Damon more than it did Stefan for some reason. Guessing Jeremy reminds Damon a bit of himself? At any rate their scene together was far more interesting than Stefan's, which was hardly useful.
Stefan finishes the night making lovey-dovey with Elena on top of the ferries wheel. Apparently Stefan can fly. I'd forgotten. Awe. Gooey romance. Sorry, distracted by the sign on the car - don't rock this car. I kept waiting for Katherine to fly up and send Elena tumbling to her death.
The scene with Caroline and Matt, as was the scene with Caroline and Stefan - oddly more moving.
She manages to control her blood lust with Matt. Doesn't give into the urge or the blood lust.
Hee. They are attempting to give Caroline depth. To actually flush out this character. Make her more than a ditzy blond prom queen. Kudos. Plus the Matt/Caroline romance which is the gender switch of Stefan/Elena is in some respects far more touching, far more real, and a lot less gooey. Maybe the unpredictablity of it?
Not quite sure what Damon and Stefan see in Elena, unless it is just the version of Katherine they fell in love with and discovered did not exist? The whole Stefan/Elena romance feels very idealized to me and very gooey. Elena is a tad too simpering and sweet for my taste. Not a lot there. Her brother and friends are more interesting. It should be noted that I don't ship any male/female relationships on this show. (Well, I did, but they either killed or wrote mine off - which was Anna/Jeremy or Uncle Jack/Isobel/Alaric). I truly don't care what ends up with or what happens to Elena. The actress may be growing on me, but the character isn't. Moralistic, passive, and whiny characters get on my nerves. Bonnie is also moralistic, but not whiny or passive - she actually does take action and responsibility.
Also loved the Damon/Stefan scenes. Is it just my imagination or is Stefan actually witty when he is with Damon? Trying to keep up? They are hilarious together. Stefan upon seeing Damon watching the wrestling match. "Lurking again?" Damon - "No, obsessing again. You?"
Damon at home - when Stefan shows up and asks him repeatedly about Katherine, "we know why she's here - to profess her undying love for you. Since your the reason she's in town, I figure she's your problem, you can figure out a way to handle her. I have more important things to wast my time on."
Why is it tv shows are so much better at developing sibling relationships, friendships, and child/father, child/mother relationships than romantic ones? They always get stuck on what to do after the couple finally gets together...it either gets really gooey or they break them up.
Aren't these people married? They can't all be single and hunting for love?
Watching comfort tv shows tonight - basically cotton candy for my brain or shows that I can giggle at.
First up was Vampire Diaries - and guess what? They attempted to give Stefan a witty sense of humor and make Caroline complicated.
Show starts out with Caroline trying to figure out why she's looking at blood bags as if they are Godiva Chocolat Martinis. Black nurse is her first victim. But she lets the gal live. Go Caroline. Course explaining to Matt why she doesn't want to go near the sunlight is proving to be a bit of a problem. But luckily for Caroline, Matt ain't the brightest bulb in the cast. Yeah, you open the window, to bring sunlight into the room and your girlfriend has skittered to the farthest part of it, lightening quick, after almost dying, and nothing's up?
Meanwhile...Damon has found a new hobby - investigating the Lockwoods. What are they? Hey anything to distract him from the Everyone Loves Stefan Club. Gotta be more productive, right?
So far so good, Mayor Lockwood's widow has asked Damon to become the new head of the Council.
You remember, the Council set up to rid the town of vampires. He also manages to convince his brother Stefan to arm wrestle the new hunk in town (who sigh, does not appear to have a sense of humor, anyone else miss Uncle Jack?). Cute. Well-meaning. Endearing. But dull. Cue Matt - you have competition. Show? More witty characters, less well meaning incredibly serious ...brooding ones.
Stefan complies - because anything to distract Damon from his obsession with Katherine/Elena.
When Stefan loses the arm-wrestling contest. Damon accuses him of not even trying. But I did, insist Stefan - he doesn't have human strength...he's human, but not. Okay, Damon, says, then what is he? I don't know, says Stefan attempting to be witty, he could be a mutant ninja turtle?
A mutant what - asks Damon. Or a zombie or a werewolf. Damon - Not funny. You are not being funny. (Hee. Show has decided to give Stefan a sense of humor? Cool. Although must try harder.
Damon is right - that's not that funny. But points for the attempt. Also apparently the vampires don't believe in zombies and werewolves? Interesting. I mean - if there are witches and vampires, surely there are also werewolves and zombies and ghosts? Be a bit like believing in Bears but not Tigers, don't you think?)
Caroline gets out of the hospital - by compelling the nurse to let her out and in so doing remembers all of Damon's hijinks the previous year. Caroline and Jeremy decide to go after Damon. Stefan attempts to warn Jeremy not to, even after he tells Jeremy all the ways he can kill a vampire (uh, can't Jeremy figure this stuff out on his own - it's not like the knowledge is top secret or anything? Plus, he was in a relationship with one. No wait two.) But Jeremy ignores Stefan's advice and goes after Damon anyway - threatening to tell everyone he knows what Damon is. Damon shows Jeremy how bad an idea this is...by snatching his ring and pretending to snap his neck again. Then he throws the ring back at Jeremy stating, go ahead tell them, and I'll ram this ring so far up your ass you won't know what hit you. Jeremy goes off to sulk. Poor woobie. (Does anyone else miss Anna? I really miss Anna. Love that actress - that's the actress I wanted them to get for Dragon Tattoo or Let Me In. They keep killing off all the cool snarky tough female characters or write them out. It's annoying. Vicky, Miss Perl, Isobel and Anna had chutzpah. Caroline, Elena and Bonnie are too pretty and a bit too simpering for words.)
Damon compels Bonnie's new crush - the cute black guy with no name - into picking a fight with Tyler. (This show needs more minority characters and to stop killing off the only ones it has. Last year they killed off the cute black vampire with a conscience - who looked like a great love interest for Bonnie as well as Jasmine Guy's stellar Grammy Witch. Plus Torres (Zoe from Firefly) role as Damon's past significant other. Bonnie can't be the only black character in this show. Come on!) Poor guy does and almost gets himself killed, but Tyler's uncle steps in and jumps about like a monkey, which spooks Stefan, who keeps watch - either to protect the guy Damon compelled or to spy for Damon - not sure which.
Meanwhile Damon has had a nasty little confrontation with Caroline, who flips him across the floor. Damon is not having a good time with the ladies. Last week he gets dumped. This week
beaten up. Go Caroline. However - Damon decides this means he needs to kill Caroline.
So goes off to find Stefan and Elena for permission, and well to let them know what Katherine has been up to. They don't grant permission - because unlike Vicky, they happen to like Caroline. She's a pretty blond prom queen, who is ditzy and therefore harmless, and not a low-life drug-addicted waitress, therefore savable. Damon personally doesn't see any difference.
Caroline runs into Matt and gets all hot and bothered, and wants to drink his blood, but stops herself and goes after the no-name black guy who is nursing the bloody nose he got from fighting Tyler earlier. (Oh that poor guy! He's just having the worst luck! Talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time! And poor Bonnie - who just can't catch a break.) This guy dies. Damon comes upon the scene first and suggests that he should kill Caroline. But Elena and Stefan refuse to let him. See if it had been Jeremy or Matt? They'd have done it. But it is no-name black guy, who cares? Well, Bonnie...
Speaking of, Bonnie pops up and freaks out. Deciding to kill Damon because obviously it is all his fault. (In a way she's right - if he hadn't compelled the guy to fight Tyler - he wouldn't have a bloody nose, and if he hadn't given Caroline his blood - Caroline wouldn't have become a vampire. But on the other - if she hadn't persuaded Damon to do it, Caroline would have died naturally and not become a vampire either. Lots of blame to go around here.)
Bonnie gives Damon an excruciating headache. (Damn, I can sympathize.) And sets him on fire.
(ME: Oh right kill off the only remaining character with any personality or sense of humor! Kill Damon, and I'm done with you, show. But I'm not worried. They won't kill off Damon. Damon just won sexiest supernatural critter of the year. The network would have to be insane or stupid to let the writers kill off Damon. You don't kill of the reason people are watching the show. They will stop watching and then where will you be? Dead in the water. But seriously we need a female character who can snark too. It's not fair that the guy gets all the best lines. Sure we have Katherine, but she's not in every episode. This is when I miss Buffy. ) Hmmm, not sure the fire stunt accomplished anything Bonnie - outside of maybe re-emphasizing the point to Damon that he should be worrying about witches not whatever Tyler and his uncle are at the moment.
My favorite scene is the one at the end between Damon and Jeremy - where they bond over having fathers who were into killing vampires. Weird scene. Jeremy comes to kill Damon, but for some reason has a change of heart. Damon holding the stake that Jeremy has given him - "my father was into killing vampires too, except he was better at the wittling, granted was from the 1860s.." Jeremy - "oh, that was my first attempt, not as easy as it looks." Apparently Jeremy has decided that Damon might make great big brother material. Can't think why. I mean you'd think he'd go to Stefan - who you know, saved his life. Jeremy and his death wish.
Although the relationship does sort of remind me of Connor and Angelus, except with more humor and less predictability. There's potential here. Also, admittedly Stefan is a bit absorbed in Elena at the moment...he only sees Jeremy when Elena points him out to him. Damon on the other hand has actually taken an off-hand interest in the lad - even going so far as to explain what it is like to be a vampire and seeking to comfort him when Anna died - a death that moved Damon more than it did Stefan for some reason. Guessing Jeremy reminds Damon a bit of himself? At any rate their scene together was far more interesting than Stefan's, which was hardly useful.
Stefan finishes the night making lovey-dovey with Elena on top of the ferries wheel. Apparently Stefan can fly. I'd forgotten. Awe. Gooey romance. Sorry, distracted by the sign on the car - don't rock this car. I kept waiting for Katherine to fly up and send Elena tumbling to her death.
The scene with Caroline and Matt, as was the scene with Caroline and Stefan - oddly more moving.
She manages to control her blood lust with Matt. Doesn't give into the urge or the blood lust.
Hee. They are attempting to give Caroline depth. To actually flush out this character. Make her more than a ditzy blond prom queen. Kudos. Plus the Matt/Caroline romance which is the gender switch of Stefan/Elena is in some respects far more touching, far more real, and a lot less gooey. Maybe the unpredictablity of it?
Not quite sure what Damon and Stefan see in Elena, unless it is just the version of Katherine they fell in love with and discovered did not exist? The whole Stefan/Elena romance feels very idealized to me and very gooey. Elena is a tad too simpering and sweet for my taste. Not a lot there. Her brother and friends are more interesting. It should be noted that I don't ship any male/female relationships on this show. (Well, I did, but they either killed or wrote mine off - which was Anna/Jeremy or Uncle Jack/Isobel/Alaric). I truly don't care what ends up with or what happens to Elena. The actress may be growing on me, but the character isn't. Moralistic, passive, and whiny characters get on my nerves. Bonnie is also moralistic, but not whiny or passive - she actually does take action and responsibility.
Also loved the Damon/Stefan scenes. Is it just my imagination or is Stefan actually witty when he is with Damon? Trying to keep up? They are hilarious together. Stefan upon seeing Damon watching the wrestling match. "Lurking again?" Damon - "No, obsessing again. You?"
Damon at home - when Stefan shows up and asks him repeatedly about Katherine, "we know why she's here - to profess her undying love for you. Since your the reason she's in town, I figure she's your problem, you can figure out a way to handle her. I have more important things to wast my time on."
Why is it tv shows are so much better at developing sibling relationships, friendships, and child/father, child/mother relationships than romantic ones? They always get stuck on what to do after the couple finally gets together...it either gets really gooey or they break them up.
Aren't these people married? They can't all be single and hunting for love?
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Date: 2010-09-17 03:43 am (UTC)GREAT scene. I loved it so much I copied it down.
Guessing Jeremy reminds Damon a bit of himself?
Which puts an interesting spin on why Damon killed Jeremy. He was making a victim of his human self.
Not quite sure what Damon and Stefan see in Elena, unless it is just the version of Katherine they fell in love with and discovered did not exist?
I thought there was a lot to love about Elena in this episode. She forgave Damon and stopped Bonnie from killing him because "that's not who we are" and she also pragmatically summed up the insanity of her life and then said with a tearful smile and her chin up, "I'm fine." She's a survivor. What's more, she doesn't mope or complain. She's not as badass as Bonnie with her witchfu rage, but her compassion, her indomitable spirit and her endless reserves of love and forgiveness are compelling. I like her. She's a good character. I even liked how she dedicated herself to having something normal in planning the carnival.
The scene with Caroline and Matt, as was the scene with Caroline and Stefan - oddly more moving.
Yep. Stefan and Elena as a couple are sweet, but a bit boring.
Why is it tv shows are so much better at developing sibling relationships, friendships, and child/father, child/mother relationships than romantic ones?
Maybe they buy into this idea that romances in stories has to be better than what they have in real life. Maybe they're trying to write a fantasy.
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Date: 2010-09-17 03:50 am (UTC)More thoughts on this. In the first episode of this season, Damon know about Jeremy's death wish and he said after being rejected by Elena: "No, it's not okay, Elena. He wants to be a vampire. You want me to shut off the pain? It's the easiest thing in the world. The part of you that cares just goes away. All you have to do is just flip the switch and snap."
Damon sees himself in Jeremy, the same young fool who wanted to become a vampire because of a woman (Katherine/Anna). And by killing Jeremy, by flipping the switch, Damon is trying to prove how he too can flip the switch and not care anymore. To be invulnerable.
I expect we're seeing the beginning of a long arc between Damon and Jeremy. Nice move by the writers. It's making Jeremy a more interesting character and it's giving Damon opportunities for development that are removed from romance. It's like Damon gets a second chance to be a big brother.
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Date: 2010-09-18 01:43 am (UTC)The scene I was referring to between Damon and Jeremy is in the season finale of last year - where Damon is alone with Jeremy, and visits him to let him know about Anna and to...offer some sort of peace. He says he can make him forget, if he wants. Jeremy turns him down. And then Jeremy asks him what it is like to be a vampire. Damon who is upset...tells him about the whole flipping a switch bit. It's a fascinating conversation about guilt, pain, and not wanting to feel. Jeremy from the beginning has been all about numbing his pain - either through drugs or other means. Elena numbs her pain by using Stefan (I guess). And Damon does it by flipping the switch. All addiction metaphors. Addicted to love, addicted to drugs, addicted to blood. Then after Damon sort of, but unintentionally talks Jeremy into killing himself and becoming a vamp, because the pain will be dulled - but as Damon says, only momentarily, Damon goes to talk to Elena (aka Katherine) - the kiss isn't as important as what they say to each other - and it is what they say that messes Damon up when he figures out Katherine was playing him. Elena doesn't know what was said. That is interesting to me.
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Date: 2010-09-17 04:44 pm (UTC)Anywho..you did give me an excuse to use my new icon. (Just put - "Post" on the end of it.
I thought there was a lot to love about Elena in this episode. She forgave Damon and stopped Bonnie from killing him because "that's not who we are" and she also pragmatically summed up the insanity of her life and then said with a tearful smile and her chin up, "I'm fine." She's a survivor. What's more, she doesn't mope or complain. She's not as badass as Bonnie with her witchfu rage, but her compassion, her indomitable spirit and her endless reserves of love and forgiveness are compelling. I like her. She's a good character. I even liked how she dedicated herself to having something normal in planning the carnival.
Yep, a true paragone of virtue. Remind me to nominate her for the saint award. But seriously lacking in the depth department.
The Buffbot had more personality.
Taking the snark hat off for a bit, I need to take a moment here to make a point because this is the second time someone has felt the need to lecture me on this. As weird as it may seem - I actually like nice characters and I like characters who show all the traits that you mention above. What I've grown tired of is a specific character trope that shows up in all sorts of soap operas and dramas - the oh-so perfect girl, who we are told is amazing. And we are told to feel sorry for - by heaping tragedy after tragedy on top of her head.
Meredith Grey on Grey's Anatomy and Cristina are actual examples of virtuous characters written well. As is Peggy in Mad Men, or Alicia Florek in The Good Wife. Buffy in BTVS is another example of how you can write this type of character well.
Virtue is boring if it isn't earned. No one is perfect. Even Mother Teresa had her issues. You need to show complexity, otherwise the character becomes predictable. I wasn't suprised by anything Elena did. I knew it before she did them. And her dialogue - cliche. "Oh Bonnie, we are above this sort of thing. It isn't us!" Would have been far more interesting if Elena had stopped Bonnie another way or not at all.
You can write a paragon of virtue and make her compelling. Kevin Williamson oddly has in the past...just not here.
So, it is how they've written Elena that I mock. Not the traits that you list above. And I freely admit this is my opinion. Heck the entire post is opinion. ;-)
Maybe they buy into this idea that romances in stories has to be better than what they have in real life. Maybe they're trying to write a fantasy.
And failing hilariously at it. ;-) Ghod can they be any more cliche?? The ferris wheel? Can we be any more cliche? You can write romantic fantasy and make it interesting and innovative. It is possible.
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Date: 2010-09-17 07:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-18 01:20 am (UTC)Much like Vampire Diaries they have their crappy moments and their stellar ones. And I love to mock them. That's part of the fun of watching these shows - the mocking. ;-)
And I did warn you - "Vampire Diaries Snark-a-thon". ;-)
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Date: 2010-09-17 04:06 am (UTC)This is probably the most apt observation among the snark - it's something I haven't seen before.
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Date: 2010-09-18 01:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-17 08:16 am (UTC)Yes, I think you're right - he does see himself in poor stupid Jeremy. And I hope the writers do something with that.
Also loved the Damon/Stefan scenes. Is it just my imagination or is Stefan actually witty when he is with Damon? Trying to keep up? They are hilarious together. Stefan upon seeing Damon watching the wrestling match. "Lurking again?" Damon - "No, obsessing again. You?"
Damon at home - when Stefan shows up and asks him repeatedly about Katherine, "we know why she's here - to profess her undying love for you. Since your the reason she's in town, I figure she's your problem, you can figure out a way to handle her. I have more important things to wast my time on."
Not to mention Damon pushing Stefan into arm wrestling with Uncle Matt and then looking puzzled when Stefan told him he did try to wrestle him down.
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Date: 2010-09-18 01:30 am (UTC)And his interactions with Jeremy and Alaric is interesting. Alaric and Damon sort of remind me of Xander and Spike, in a weird way.
And the scene between Jeremy and Damon at the end S1 which lead to the scene between him and Fake!Elena (aka Katherine)...was intriguing.
Jeremy asks him - if he can switch it off so easily, not care, why would he ever let himself actually care. And Damon isn't sure. It's interesting moment and it is immediately followed by Jeremy attempting to become a vampire and Damon revealing his anguish to Elena, asking if he can be good and maybe he isn't. It's what Elena (aka Katherine) says to him not just the kiss that has importance and the fact it's Katherine who did it - that is interesting. Katherine intrigues me.
There are bits here and there that are surprisingly good.