Yes, me too, though if it had to happen, I would preferred it to be in TGiQ, simply because YW being AtS's 100th episode, Spike was bound to be shortchanged in it, being the new kid on the block. At least TGiQ was set up to be a silly Spangel romp rather than a landmark episode of the entire show.
As for the AR, I also knew about it around the time of Dead Things. As you can imagine, it did not go down well on the Spike redemptionist boards where I mostly posted. People kept hoping to the day the wild feed broke that there might be some kind of mitigating circumstances, or that Spike would stop himself (I so wish he'd been allowed that) or that he was being mind-controlled by Warren. But no.
Interestingly enough the people who had troubles with the AR and Spike after the AR, also could not watch Dollhouse.
Yes, I've observed this too. Different triggers, I suppose. My own trigger moment is in Entropy. I find it very hard to watch the end of that episode.
I know there are many people who will never forgive Spike because of the AR, and that's why I can't quite forgive Joss for doing it, no matter what comment he was trying to make about soap opera tropes or about rapists not being irredeemable or whatever. I would find it easier to forgive him, though, if the soul quest had been less ambiguous. I know Joss is all about the layers and the ambiguity and the plot twists, but I think in this one instance he was wrong. It needed to be made absolutely clear that Spike went to get his soul back because of remorse. I like the character and I can fanwank what we actually got to explain the way we see him behave in the last three episodes, but those who don't like him aren't going to bother and that's why I wish it had been unambiguous.
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Date: 2009-11-17 06:58 pm (UTC)Yes, me too, though if it had to happen, I would preferred it to be in TGiQ, simply because YW being AtS's 100th episode, Spike was bound to be shortchanged in it, being the new kid on the block. At least TGiQ was set up to be a silly Spangel romp rather than a landmark episode of the entire show.
As for the AR, I also knew about it around the time of Dead Things. As you can imagine, it did not go down well on the Spike redemptionist boards where I mostly posted. People kept hoping to the day the wild feed broke that there might be some kind of mitigating circumstances, or that Spike would stop himself (I so wish he'd been allowed that) or that he was being mind-controlled by Warren. But no.
Interestingly enough the people who had troubles with the AR and Spike after the AR, also could not watch Dollhouse.
Yes, I've observed this too. Different triggers, I suppose. My own trigger moment is in Entropy. I find it very hard to watch the end of that episode.
I know there are many people who will never forgive Spike because of the AR, and that's why I can't quite forgive Joss for doing it, no matter what comment he was trying to make about soap opera tropes or about rapists not being irredeemable or whatever. I would find it easier to forgive him, though, if the soul quest had been less ambiguous. I know Joss is all about the layers and the ambiguity and the plot twists, but I think in this one instance he was wrong. It needed to be made absolutely clear that Spike went to get his soul back because of remorse. I like the character and I can fanwank what we actually got to explain the way we see him behave in the last three episodes, but those who don't like him aren't going to bother and that's why I wish it had been unambiguous.