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[shadowkat]

For people who care about the Angel/Spike/Buffy comics...there is a rather interesting post from IDW that clarifies a few things, but still won't answer my main question - most likely because IDW really doesn't know.

Here's the link: http://idwpublishing.com/news/article/1360/

Well, we have Joss Whedon to blame or thank depending on your pov for IDW losing the Angel the Series license to Dark Horse. Mixed feelings about this.

Still no clarification on my question : what is comics canon and what isn't? Don't people want to know what the plot is? That's sort of crucial, don't you think? I mean, it does change things if Williams and Willingham's Angel comics are canonical to the Buffy comics - because that would mean Spike's ironically and indirectly responsible for Angel becoming Twilight. (I can see Whedon doing that.) I just want to know what story arc to throw out and what to pay attention to. At least with fanfic - people will tell you these things. They'll say - its AU or it follows directly from episode 22, Season 5. Or that it includes everything up to and including Buffy comic 35. But with the comics? They don't tell you this. You have to guess! (And here, I define canon as basically meaning what plot threads, character tropes, etc that the writer is following, what is the past history. Is Spike's last name still Pratt? Did he become mates with a fish? Did he lose his soul then get it back again? Did he fall for Illyria? Did Connor fight alongside Spike in Hell?) If I'm to continue wasting money, time and space collecting and reading these things - I want to know what is included in the story is to date.
I don't want to have to guess or debate it endlessly with people. That's getting old.

If you can get a straight answer on that question from Scott Allie or Whedon - kudos! It's the only question I haven't seen answered.

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[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

So do I. While it would be amusing, it doesn't really fit the character or the verse that well - it's too inside jokey. Actually that was the whole problem with Willingham and Williams (say those two names real quickly...William Willingham and William Williams...LOL! Ugh, their parents must have hated them. Either that, or they have an odd sense of humor regarding pseudonymes.) - they were basically setting up jokes at the character's expense. Yes - it is ironically amusing and most likely hilarious from an objective pov -for Spike to lose his hard-earned soul, not notice it, and then create a prophecy that Angel would stupidly buy, hook line and sinker - to become a nasty villian named Twilight. Add to that - the whole dusting limbs bit. (The plot summaries of those comics often had me erupting in spasms of giggles.)

But it just doesn't quite fit the characters and seems to be more at theirs, the original creators' and the reader's expense. Sort of satire verging on parody. And they apparently did that a lot. Would have worked a lot better if they let their audience in on the joke, instead of telling it at the expense of the audience - good way to piss off an audience and lose readership.

That said? I honestly don't know which way DH will go. My guess is stormwreath is most likely right - that Whedon hasn't read the comics and plans to ignore everything that he hadn't worked on or oversaw himself. Whedon's anything if not a control freak - this latest snafu has certainly helped prove that.