Favorite Whedon TV Show Meme

[shadowkat]

I can't remember what Whedon tv shows my readership favors. So perhaps you can help? My current guess is that you rank them as follows:

1. Buffy
2. Angel (with about 25-45% preferring Angel to Buffy for various reasons)
3. Firefly
4. Dollhouse (with 65% squicked by the series and finding it unwatchable)


Only 5% read the comics and liked them. Everyone liked Dr. Horrible. Few read the X-men comics by Whedon or stuck with them. So comics Whedon - not a fav. Also few appear interested in the current films, Much Ado, Cabin in the Woods, or Avengers. Am I right?
Here's a poll to find out, assuming people participate. As all mathematicians and staticians know...polls are repsentative of the sampling. If only 20 people take the poll?
You guess based on those 20. So...I have approximately 150 who have friended me, of the 150, about 50 probably read on a daily basis, of the 50, 30% are into polls. So..I have no way of knowing, do I? The only way I can know is if everyone who reads my journal and likes or ever liked Whedon shows takes the poll. And that's well impossible. So this is ...far from an exact exercise. (A lesson to the people out there who do a lot of surveys for sociology, psychology and marketing classes - people? They aren't that reliable. You know that right? IF not, just read the internet - it will prove it to you. There's a reason that sociology, psychology and marketing are considering inexact sciences or soft. They rely on inexact data that can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Lawyers love to poke holes in statistical data.)

That said, for a bit of fun, take the poll and see if you can prove me wrong? Feel free to link, since a lot of readers seem to be through links at times.

[Poll #1831422]

[Note: Won't be able to respond until late on Thursday or Friday, since I can no longer access personal blogs via my workplace. So can only access at home. PS: I reposted this poll fifteen minutes after first posting, because I screwed up on the last question and had to fix it. Now it should be fine. If you responded to the deleted post, please respond again. Thanks.]

[ETA: Read the comments. Fascinating.]

Comments

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I liked both Buffy and Angel relatively evenly.

Firefly annoyed the crap out of me with its failure to logically world-build. We were simply supposed to 'accept' for no reason whatsoever that in the future people would decide to adopt slang from a brief period of the late 19th century Western U.S., that female terraformers would wear long calico dresses, and that they'd use horses (relatively fragile creatures with temperature sensitivities) rather than the advanced vehicles they clearly possessed. All of it plus so much more simply made no 'world-building' sense and I knew that Whedon would never, ever, ever even try to build that world. We were simply to accept it... and I couldn't.

"Dollhouse" straight-up squicked me as a premise. Add in FOX's "prostitution yay!" ad campaign (seriously, that's what it looked like) and I was double squicked. (I was triply squicked when Whedon claimed that what went wrong with the series was that FOX reigned in the prostitution aspect. Apparently, he wanted more prostitution.) I really didn't like "Dollhouse."

[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

Firefly annoyed the crap out of me with its failure to logically world-build. We were simply supposed to 'accept' for no reason whatsoever that in the future people would decide to adopt slang from a brief period of the late 19th century Western U.S., that female terraformers would wear long calico dresses, and that they'd use horses (relatively fragile creatures with temperature sensitivities) rather than the advanced vehicles they clearly possessed. All of it plus so much more simply made no 'world-building' sense and I knew that Whedon would never, ever, ever even try to build that world. We were simply to accept it... and I couldn't.

I agree. (But if you read the comments directly below yours...you'd realize how funny this is. I'm talking polar opposites. The comment directly below states - that they loved Firefly because it had the best developed world of the series.) It's hilarious how diametrically opposed peoples views are on this comment thread. Makes me wonder if we all saw the same series...most likely didn't. ;-) (ie. You're Friends Aren't Watching the Same Show You Are and That's Okay.)

Anyhow, thanks. A lot of people on my flist were straight-up squicked by Dollhouse. I think that show seriously alienated half the Whedon fandom, while ironically bringing in new fans. (Again see: You're Friends Aren't Watching the Same TV SHow that You Are - article that I can't find the link to at the moment.) The diametrically opposed positions on Dollhouse and Firefly were sort of foreshadowing for the Buffy comics. Fandom split down the middle.

I can't say that I liked Dollhouse. It is the only one of Whedon's TV series that I don't own on DVD and feel no desire to re-watch and frankly don't want to. I think I know what Whedon was going for, but, like the comics, I don't think he knew how to do it. And unfortunately how he went about it was...a lot more offensive than well the intent. (He wanted to do a critique of torture porn and reality tv. I sort of want to send Whedon -- Suzanne Collins The Hunger Games with a note - this is how you do it! Of course I could be wrong about that. I honestly have no idea what is in his head, I have enough trouble's figuring out my own most of the time.)

That said...there were moments in Dollhouse that worked for me. But not enough to make up for the detractors. I wonder sometimes if the series would have worked better if Echo had been male and played by Alan Tudyke or
if the series had a better editor. Whedon, I think, works better under restraints.