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1. Anyone know anything about the online version of weight watchers? Is it pricy? How does it work?

Need to find a way to control this compulsive over-eating. Which is hurting me and is undoubtedly a reaction to stress. Thinking maybe if I have to keep track of everything I eat and drink that will help.


2. Currently reading Laura Kinsale's Flowers from the Storm, which is actually a well-written historical romance. Not as rare as a well-written contemporary romance - have yet to find one of those. John Green's The Fault in Our Stars - I don't really consider a contemporary romance, but if you do? That's the best written I've found to date. It's also hands down the best written book I've read in years. But back to Flowers from the Storm. How credible it is to the time period (19th Century), I wouldn't know. But the author does a convincing job of portraying it and the odd coupling of a Duke who has suffered a stroke and the young Quaker woman who aids him.

Here's what the author states about it:

The odd tidbit of original inspiration for Flowers came from a great-aunt of mine. When I was fairly young—7 or 8?—she suffered a stroke and lost the ability to speak. My grandmother, her sister, brought her to live at home for the next ten years. She would come up behind us kids and grab our hair or our arm, pinch so hard that it hurt, and say “No, no, no, no!” I thought she was nuts. Forgive me, I was young and afraid of her. My grandmother always insisted that she could understand what was said to her, and stood by her to the end.

Many years later, many—out of nowhere, the thought came to me that my grandmother had been right. That my great-aunt had been trapped behind a wall. It was a stunning realization.

I spent a fascinating period researching brain damage while writing Flowers from the Storm.


In the novel the Duke of Jevorlaux suffers a cereberal brain hemorrage or stroke, and is placed in a lunatic aslym, because at that time they didn't understand what a stroke was and misdiagnosed his inability to communicate as dementia. As the heroine, Maddy Timms, states at one point - he wasn't mad, he was maddened. The asylum is a bit grim and its practices alarming. Although I'm not sure they are accurate. In the book he is treated to cold therapeutic baths that remind me of water torture, strapped down, and placed in confinement.

The institution is run by Quakers, which seemed odd to me. Because I can't imagine a Quaker endorsing the therapeutic cold baths, although Cousin Edmund is a lasped Quaker and follows what he consider modern medical treatments.

She does a decent job of conveying religious without judging it. Too often a writer will place a value judgment on someone who is religious - making them out to be a fanatic. This takes me out of the story. Not all religious people are fanatics. Regardless of what many television shows dictate. Maddy is a religious person, pious and devout but she is also smart, intutitive, kind, and compassionate. Not to mention perceptive. Her religion gives her strength and guides her to aid the hero, Christian, who has suffered a stroke and is trapped. She looks past her prejudices and comes to his aid.

The story is detailed and in both characters points of view, the Quaker voice and the mind of a man inflicted with severe aphsia, inability to communicate. Words are taken from him.
I wouldn't call it literary, but it is by far amongst the best of the genre it resides within. There's also a cynical edge to it - in regards to psychiatric medicine, particularly the behaviorists - who believed that all behavior could be changed through conditioning - using pain, pleasure, and removal of basic human requirements. Now this methodology is challenged as infringement of human rights. I'm not a fan of the behaviorists. But my knowledge is admittedly sketchy - having only studied them briefly in the late 1980s. Which was over 20 years ago. I've had to wedge a lot of information into my brain since then.

Date: 2012-06-29 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ponygirl2000.livejournal.com
I found that the online Weight Watchers does work pretty well and the price is pretty reasonable. I was hungry the first couple weeks until I got into the habit of filling up on fruits and vegetables but it really made me aware of how much snacking and seconds I'd been having. I've been bad of late and I do think at a certain point only increasing my exercise is going to stop me from plateauing but I do recommend it.

Date: 2012-06-29 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Although I'm not sure they are accurate. In the book he is treated to cold therapeutic baths that remind me of water torture, strapped down, and placed in confinement.

Don't know how accurate it is for that specific time period, but it is accurate for the 19th Century. It was mentioned as a 'treatment' in Bryson's At Home non-fiction, and it's also in the Darwin movie Evolution as he subjected his poor daughter to it, as well as himself (as he suffered from depression and some other poorly understood malady). He even had one built at his home so that he could do it to himself.

Date: 2012-06-29 02:35 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com
I am using the online version, but I get a coupon as a Lifetime Member to use it, so it's not costing me as long as I keep my weight down.

What it helped with a LOT was learning the points plus system. I lost 20 lbs on the old system and didn't want to switch to the new one even though it was getting more difficult to get the points values on the old system. You can look up all sorts of foods and get the points value for it which makes it a lot easier to track your food. You also track your exercise and weight.

Supposedly, it's no substitute for going to meetings and getting the weekly pep talk, but you can do the online program without going to meetings. They have online boards for community support if you're so inclined. I go to monthly meetings because I am a lifetime member.

The cost of meetings varies I guess by region, I couldn't get a straight answer out of the website, but it shouldn't be too hard to find out.

Date: 2012-06-29 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cindergal.livejournal.com
I think WW online is a good value if you want the community support of the message boards, etc. I think it's about $18-20/month. If all you want to do is track your food/calories, there are free options that can do that for you as well. Lose It! (iPhone app or online), myfitnesspal.com, sparkpeople.com or fitday.com are a few good ones. And actually, they probably have community support, too, but I don't know how active their boards are. I use Lose It! on my iPhone and it's very easy and convenient.

Date: 2012-06-29 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenchurche.livejournal.com
I've had excellent results with WW Online... 110 pounds down. I've ended up gaining back about 30, but that's not a problem with WW. There was a medical issue that cropped up that forced me off the plan for a bit, followed by a new asthma inhaler that made me gain about half a pound a week until I finally gave up on it. Thankfully, I'm losing again.

But yeah, it's very possible to do just the Online version and have good success. Although I must admit that I did have an online support group of sorts... some friends I already knew, who had an LJ community for discussing WW stuff. It meant if I did have any questions or things I couldn't figure out, I could pick the brains of people who actually were going to meetings.

Date: 2012-06-29 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophist.livejournal.com
I know you asked about WW specifically, but you might give these guys a look too: http://whole9life.com/9-blog/ They are highly regarded.
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