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shadowkat1. From Neil Gaiman's blog (which LJ offers a syndicated link to - so I can read it on my flist) - I followed a link to an article to a chat between Neil Gaiman and Chuck Lorre (creator of Big Bang Theory).
Here's a great blurb:
Lorre said the biggest danger of listening to fans is that “you are doomed when you say: ‘What do you want?’” which is one of the reasons why he keeps his web site walled. “I made a decision that the site would be completely and totally non-interactive. I didn’t want criticism or praise.”
Now, if only a few other beloved writers would take the same advice.
I may have to buy Chuck Lorre's book - I love reading about how television and movies are made. The process entertains me to no end.
2. Also from Mr. Gaiman's blog - you can listen to the BBC Radio broadcast of Neverwhere up until March 29th at this link here : http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01r527b
The voices are: Anthony Stewart Head, Benedict Cumberbatch, Natalie Dormier, James Purevoy.
I'm listening now as I write this. Don't do well with audio books or radio - because I tend to be an audio dyslexic. I mishear things and unlike a book, it's hard to jump back and rehear to see if you got itwrite right, so I often subvocalize and repeat everything I hear in my head. But so far, so good. (ETA: Also keep putting the wrong word. Today? write instead of right, so annoying. Does this happen to others? I think you told me it did. Reassuring that.) On another note - Neil Gaiman is one of those writers whose work I think I should love to pieces but don't for some reason, and am always wondering why? Is it me? Is it him? What is lacking? I love the writer, but some weird reason his books don't speak to me on an emotional level...intellectually, sure, emotionally, no...and I've no real clue why.
3. Is the author still dead when you can still talk to them or troll them or respond in an interactive way? - which was taken from a flocked post so I can't tell you where, sorry. And seriously, I've been wondering the same thing so it doesn't matter where it came from, does it? This goes back to Chuck Lorre's comment about not wanting interaction.
I've noticed this happening a lot with self-published works or recent works. And let's face it, writing is a lonely and solitary sport - we crave interaction and discussion of our stories and others stories. The internet is crack for writers. I can see why tv writers come online to chat with fans. If they didn't the only indication they'd have that anyone liked their work is the ratings (which would be depressing if you are a cult/nitch writing who never makes the Neilsen Top 20). The Buffy writers stated that until they popped online, they didn't know if anyone was watching or liked their show...or how people viewed it.
You don't when you write a story. You have no idea how another person has viewed it or seen it. Or if that plot twist worked or if it didn't. How do you improve without that feedback?
Granted like all things it comes with a price. You have to deal with the critics too.
Regarding fanfic? I got into a heated debate once with someone online about whether you should critique fanfic. They didn't believe you should. That fanfic should only be praised and awarded. (Really??) Any critique, outside of a private beta requested by the fanfic writer, was a major faux pas, and how dare I do it. Apparently this was against the fandom rules or something. (Didn't realize there were fandom rules? Deal with enough bloody bureacratic rules in my life - so count me out. ) And I was hurting young writers who were spreading their wings - in a safe environment. (Apparently people can't handle constructive criticism and analysis, if so? You shouldn't be writing.) I remember responding - I don't know what world you inhabit, but the internet has never been a safe environment. No environment that contains people is safe. Hello, I'm posting this in my personal journal on the internet and you are ripping into me - sort of proof that safe environment does NOT exist.
Writing is not supposed to be safe. The moment you throw your stuff out there or your opinion - someone will hate it. I've lost count of the number of painful critiques I've received. It goes with the territory. Even writers who don't interact with fans, who stay silent, get ripped into. JD Salinger was ripped into all the time, and Cormac McCarthy who is a bit reclusive, has people doing fake twitter feeds using his name and critiquing him.
I've never been able to figure out what is worse though...being ignored or being criticized?
4. Disney is doing cross-over novelizations of Once Upon a Time. Go here:http://shelf-life.ew.com/2013/03/18/once-upon-a-time-book/
The first is a novelization of Season One - with alternating points of view, one point of view is Emma, the other is Snow White.
The first title in what may be a series of books is titled Reawakened (cover image above) and it’s novelization of the show’s first season and promises to give “fans of the show a whole new look at their favorite characters and stories.” The narrative will be told in alternating points-of-view—that of Emma Swan (portrayed by Jennifer Morrison in the show) in the real world of Storybrooke, and Snow White (Ginnifer Goodwin) in Fairy Tale Land. The novel is written by Odette Beane, and based upon the TV series by Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis.
5. Flist is agreed on one thing - what happened to Spring? Where is it? And what do you mean we're going to have a warmer than average Spring? We have snow on the ground and its freezing you stupid weather people! What earth are you living on.
We may not agree on much, but there does appear to be consensus on that. Also I don't think I can really complain, unlike the Great Lakes, Midwest, and Europe - there's no snow on the ground here. Note to self - when planning winter vacations - do not go to Europe. Go South.
6. Is anyone writing fanfic about Damon/Spike/Lexie in the 1970s? Also apparently I need to go watch this week's episode of the Vampire Diaries (am a bit behind on the tv watching, and the flist reading - took three hours, sigh and I have to do my taxes). I remember the 70s, but I was admittedly a wee little kid at the time - the whole punk music scene was sort of non-existent for me. I listened to the Carpenters, Helen Reddy, and Simon and Garfunkle, along with a lot of Bway show tunes, Disney albums. The NYC I remember - the one time I ventured out into it - was Radio City Music Hall and Pete's Dragon. So the references feel like they are coming from a parrallel universe.
7. "If you don’t like someone’s story, write your own."
- Chinua Achebe
Agreed.
Here's a great blurb:
Lorre said the biggest danger of listening to fans is that “you are doomed when you say: ‘What do you want?’” which is one of the reasons why he keeps his web site walled. “I made a decision that the site would be completely and totally non-interactive. I didn’t want criticism or praise.”
Now, if only a few other beloved writers would take the same advice.
I may have to buy Chuck Lorre's book - I love reading about how television and movies are made. The process entertains me to no end.
2. Also from Mr. Gaiman's blog - you can listen to the BBC Radio broadcast of Neverwhere up until March 29th at this link here : http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01r527b
The voices are: Anthony Stewart Head, Benedict Cumberbatch, Natalie Dormier, James Purevoy.
I'm listening now as I write this. Don't do well with audio books or radio - because I tend to be an audio dyslexic. I mishear things and unlike a book, it's hard to jump back and rehear to see if you got it
3. Is the author still dead when you can still talk to them or troll them or respond in an interactive way? - which was taken from a flocked post so I can't tell you where, sorry. And seriously, I've been wondering the same thing so it doesn't matter where it came from, does it? This goes back to Chuck Lorre's comment about not wanting interaction.
I've noticed this happening a lot with self-published works or recent works. And let's face it, writing is a lonely and solitary sport - we crave interaction and discussion of our stories and others stories. The internet is crack for writers. I can see why tv writers come online to chat with fans. If they didn't the only indication they'd have that anyone liked their work is the ratings (which would be depressing if you are a cult/nitch writing who never makes the Neilsen Top 20). The Buffy writers stated that until they popped online, they didn't know if anyone was watching or liked their show...or how people viewed it.
You don't when you write a story. You have no idea how another person has viewed it or seen it. Or if that plot twist worked or if it didn't. How do you improve without that feedback?
Granted like all things it comes with a price. You have to deal with the critics too.
Regarding fanfic? I got into a heated debate once with someone online about whether you should critique fanfic. They didn't believe you should. That fanfic should only be praised and awarded. (Really??) Any critique, outside of a private beta requested by the fanfic writer, was a major faux pas, and how dare I do it. Apparently this was against the fandom rules or something. (Didn't realize there were fandom rules? Deal with enough bloody bureacratic rules in my life - so count me out. ) And I was hurting young writers who were spreading their wings - in a safe environment. (Apparently people can't handle constructive criticism and analysis, if so? You shouldn't be writing.) I remember responding - I don't know what world you inhabit, but the internet has never been a safe environment. No environment that contains people is safe. Hello, I'm posting this in my personal journal on the internet and you are ripping into me - sort of proof that safe environment does NOT exist.
Writing is not supposed to be safe. The moment you throw your stuff out there or your opinion - someone will hate it. I've lost count of the number of painful critiques I've received. It goes with the territory. Even writers who don't interact with fans, who stay silent, get ripped into. JD Salinger was ripped into all the time, and Cormac McCarthy who is a bit reclusive, has people doing fake twitter feeds using his name and critiquing him.
I've never been able to figure out what is worse though...being ignored or being criticized?
4. Disney is doing cross-over novelizations of Once Upon a Time. Go here:http://shelf-life.ew.com/2013/03/18/once-upon-a-time-book/
The first is a novelization of Season One - with alternating points of view, one point of view is Emma, the other is Snow White.
The first title in what may be a series of books is titled Reawakened (cover image above) and it’s novelization of the show’s first season and promises to give “fans of the show a whole new look at their favorite characters and stories.” The narrative will be told in alternating points-of-view—that of Emma Swan (portrayed by Jennifer Morrison in the show) in the real world of Storybrooke, and Snow White (Ginnifer Goodwin) in Fairy Tale Land. The novel is written by Odette Beane, and based upon the TV series by Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis.
5. Flist is agreed on one thing - what happened to Spring? Where is it? And what do you mean we're going to have a warmer than average Spring? We have snow on the ground and its freezing you stupid weather people! What earth are you living on.
We may not agree on much, but there does appear to be consensus on that. Also I don't think I can really complain, unlike the Great Lakes, Midwest, and Europe - there's no snow on the ground here. Note to self - when planning winter vacations - do not go to Europe. Go South.
6. Is anyone writing fanfic about Damon/Spike/Lexie in the 1970s? Also apparently I need to go watch this week's episode of the Vampire Diaries (am a bit behind on the tv watching, and the flist reading - took three hours, sigh and I have to do my taxes). I remember the 70s, but I was admittedly a wee little kid at the time - the whole punk music scene was sort of non-existent for me. I listened to the Carpenters, Helen Reddy, and Simon and Garfunkle, along with a lot of Bway show tunes, Disney albums. The NYC I remember - the one time I ventured out into it - was Radio City Music Hall and Pete's Dragon. So the references feel like they are coming from a parrallel universe.
7. "If you don’t like someone’s story, write your own."
- Chinua Achebe
Agreed.
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Date: 2013-03-23 06:17 pm (UTC)That is giving me the weirdest Babylon 5 related thoughts.
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Date: 2013-03-24 12:15 am (UTC)Loved the two sides..."Who are You" and "What Do You Want". Which is basically what stories are all about.
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Date: 2013-03-23 06:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-03-23 06:43 pm (UTC)We had a couple record highs this past week. The mornings have been very nice.
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Date: 2013-03-23 07:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-03-24 12:16 am (UTC)And down in South Carolina...also in the 40s.
Very weird.