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1.Just finished watching The Walking Dead S3 Season Finale - I sort of marathoned it today. Watched the last five episodes in a role. Season 3 really is the best season of the series to date.

It's definitely gory and possibly the most unrelentingly violent series on television next to Breaking Bad and Justified. Although I think Game of Thrones S3 may well knock all three out of the water in this regard.



I did get spoiled for Andrea's death by accident - was looking at EW's top 21 most annoying characters and they spoiled me. So I knew she was going to die, just not how. They handled it well, and admittedly she'd ceased being a favorite character a while back. Also it became apparent that Andrea and Merl could not go back to the prison group - too much history.
But of the two, Merl's arc was better - along with his scenes. Michael Rooker is an excellent actor and his interactions with Michone, Rick, and Darrly were priceless.

Particularly liked the episodes with Michonne, who has become my new favorite character and for a bit I was worried about them killing her off. But apparently she is everyone else's too, which means longevity.

The most memorable scenes ?

* Merle and Rick's at the prison, where Rick asks Merl to help him abduct and take Michonne to the Governor in exchange for peace. Rick asks if Merl even knows why he does the things he does any longer. And Merl states no, he doesn't half the time, or even think that much about them, he cares about his brother - he'd like a second chance but doubts that is even possible at this stage. But he does know Rick. He states that what Rick is planning to do with Michonne is cold. Since he has to know the Governor won't kill her, he'll torture her, remove her eyes, experiment. And while, he, Merl, could do it, he knows Rick will cave at the last moment...

Then his scenes with Michonne, who manages to talk him out of handing her over to the Governor. She tells him that if it weighs heavy on him, then he is not evil. It's the person that it doesn't weigh on that all, that feels light as a feather...that is. That he has a chance. He responds that he has killed 16 men. She asks if that was before this...no, he didn't kill anyone before, he didn't kill anyone before he met the Governor. And Michonne states it is not too late, he can come back with them - but no, he has to go do something first and has to do it alone. And to make sure no one comes after him.

What he does is go to the Governor's ambush solo, with a troop of zombies in his wake. And manages to take out six men in the process, before the Governor kills him. But the Governor isn't kind, Merle becomes a zombie and it is Darryl who has to do the final kill. And Darryl breaks down afterwards. The whole episode is gripping from start to finish, and the moral quandries the characters find themselves entrapped in make sense.

As Michonne tells Rick later - you were right to think about it, if it could have worked, I don't blame you for that. And in the end, you chose not to do it.

* The other episode that blew me away was when Rick, Carl, and Michonne go back to Rick's old town to hunt supplies and run into Emmett, who saved Rick in the first season. Emmett has gone slowly insane - the only man left in the town. He tells Rick that he was too weak to kill his wife when she turned, and as a result his dead wife took his son as well or rather the disease that consumed his wife, also consumed his son. His son couldn't kill his mother - so died himself. Carl in stark contrast appears to be becoming colder, like Shane, more shut-down. And Carl goes back to the town to retrieve the photo of his family, specifically his mother - so Judith will know what she looked like.

* The Governor storyline is the one weak link in the season. Because the character while initially complex, appears to go off the rails. His motivations make less and less sense as we move forward. Why attack his own people? Why go after Rick's group so obsessively? Is it a power-play? Or just a desire to destroy? His character is a bit all over the place, yet well played by David Morrissey, who does it straight and never over the top.

Andrea's story was unfortunately short-circuited by the Governor's. So when her death finally comes it doesn't quite have the same level of resonance as Merl's. It's hard to understand her motivations...sure she doesn't want anyone to die, but really can she be that stupid in regards to the Governor?

Nolan Mitchell, who was creepy from start to finish, yet redeems himself much as Merl does towards the end - by attempting to stop the Governor, only to be turned into one of the Walking Dead. "You will kill Andrea, one way or the other. Because that's what we do. You either kill or die, or you die and kill, " states the Governor. Rick points out in an earlier episode - that the arrogance of appointing himself Governor, of wanting that type of power over others - is what turned him. Calling the Governor little more than a drunk driver who messed up his yard. And realizes in turn that this may be his own error - power. It's one thing to take on a leadership role, it's another to take power. And Rick tells his group that he is not their Governor, I am not your ruler. We decide what to do, not me. I need you.
And together we are strong.

Will state Herschel is a far less annoying voice of reason than the Dale was in S1 and S2.
Also much prefer Michonne to Andrea, although Michonne's loss of Andrea was touching - you felt her grief, much as you felt Darryl's. In some respects Darryl and Michonne are echoes of each other, just as Andrea and Merly were. Both Andrea and Merl bought the Governor's bull-shit, because it was what they wanted to believe. The fantasy. Just as Mitchell wanted to believe it. When Mitchell realizes it - he burns the biters that the Governor had set up as a trap for Rick ( a trap that would not have been sprung in any event, because Rick didn't go along with his deal).

And the Governor mows down his own people when they refuse to continue to fight his war.
Karen, who manages to survive - rather cleverly, hooks up with Rick's group and together they take the poor people from Woodbury back to the much safer prison to protect themselves from both the Governor and the Walking Dead. The ending feels...haunting in a way. As the last scene is a close-up of Laurie's grave. With Laurie's ghost fading from view.



2. Have decided I'm not a huge fan of serial novels. I prefer stand alone novels. For a specific reason - writers of serial novels like to end on cliff-hangers, and often put a lot of filler in their books. Their novels aren't tight. And tend to wander a bit. Writers aren't good at endings for some reason. It's like we get tired of writing or we don't want our stories to end? I don't know. Maybe it's the fact that too often you are editing as you write, and you just go back to the beginning so many times - so it gets edited to death, and second part not so much?

3. Another thing that I'm not a huge fan of, but decided to forgo writing a long post on - due to the highly controversial nature of the subject matter is the star-crossed lover relationship that just won't die or aka the Ship that Can't Die, Dang-it. This is particularly true in tv shows.

Here's the scenario:


Jack and Jane fall in love, but alas there's something keeping them apart...and it is often something that cannot be easily resolved but will cause lots and lots of sexual tension and romantic angst. Eventually the writers get bored of teasing the viewers, and Jack and Jill kiss and make love (ie. do the deed) or they might even go so far as to get married, but alas, it can't last. Someone breaks it off. Time passes, they move on to other partners, but wait - no, they miss each other, they crave each other, and once again Jack and Jill are at it. Jack and/or Jill's new romantic interests get upset and/or leave or hook up with another character. Can't say I blame them. But Jack and Jill still can't last - where's the fun in that? After all they are "Star-Crossed"! So they get broken up again. And this time around, either Jack or Jill will leave the story for a bit - depends on which actor is signed as the lead, also who has a spin-off in the works.

Or Jack or Jill will just leave the story for a bit - they are either killed off, leave town for the other party's own good, have serious commitment issues and disappear, are abducted by an evil villain, their death is faked, any number of possibilities. At any rate they are gone. Their absence could last a year, or a few months, depends on the actor's availability, the success of the spin-off, the appeal of the new romantic interest (to both writers and Neilsen Box owners/focus group tv watchers and well network executives), the chemistry between the new love interest and Jack (or Jill), and whether the series is going to end next year. But rest assured, that their ship is far from dead. It may appear to be dead, but it isn't. Just because Jack (or Jill) left - often on their own accord, does not mean they will either stay gone or not end up back with Jill (or Jack) again. If there is a way to reunite them, rest assured the idiotic writers will unearth, even if it means resurrecting one or other from the grave.

While Jack or Jill is off sowing their oats on their very own spin-off series or just down for the count, the remaining character (Jill) starts a hot new romance with someone else. But alas, the new romance can't last - because sooner or later Jack pops up again. It can be four after the fact or 20, does not matter. Jill's confused and can't decide who to be with - since Jack is clearly her One TRUE Love, even though he hasn't exactly been present in her life, they haven't spoken, or even exchanged emails and has no clue what has happened in her life since he left. No - they just start up again where they left off, as if nothing happened in between. Oh sometimes - if you are lucky, we'll get a very long scene where they discuss their lives and why they couldn't be together, and how much better off they were once Jack and Jill left - but usually, it's back to ground zero again. And oh, whatever was keeping them separated? It still exists. In some cases, depending on how close the writers are to concluding the series - it no longer exists and the characters can ride off into the sunset together - even though they haven't been in each other's lives on-screen for years.

There are a few wrinkles to this trite but true formula. Occasionally, the star-crossed romance remains a teaser on screen. Where we have a weird unrequited yet requited angsty romance going on, but the writers never quite let it go. In short it's the romance that seems to be always on the threshhold of actually taking off, but never quite does, or on the threshhold of dying and never quite does. One character will declare their love for the other one, but the other one...is either committed to someone else (ie the Oppressive Love Triangle from Heck syndrome) or they feel that to give in would be some sort of weakness on their part. (ie. "I can't love Jack or Jill because they are evil and/or all wrong for me, and I'm a good little character, that I am." Actually, I personally think they are self-righteous tease who deserves to be smacked upside the head, but that's a whole other conversation.) In short, Jack or Jill resists because it would be wrong! (Yet apparently not wrong to endlessly tease and lead them on?)

What's weird about this trope...is just when you think the unrequited romance has been resolved, Jack or Jill suddenly, out of the blue, decides to declare their love for the other party, who has been pining for them (albeit stoically and silently and often with frequent distractions from other far more willing and appreciative bed partners). And suddenly it's back on with a vengeance. The romance the viewers had either given up on or were relieved to see disappear, is suddenly hot and heavy and wrecking havoc across their screens. But rest assured, it won't last either. Sooner or later, Jack or Jill will realize that this was a really bad idea, and while the sex was definitely amazing, it can't go any further than that - so they summarily dump the significant other. In some cases, not many, the significant other gets tired of being Jack or Jill's sex slave and dumps them. OR they want more than just sex and propose a serious commitment, which of course can't happen - because you know - it would be WRONG and go against the One True LOVE (assuming there is one sometimes there isn't and it is just wrong). Or it is revealed that Jack or Jill were not in their right mind at the time - so the whole relationship was not real from their point of view. Or Jack or Jill's love interest unwittingly manipulated, brain-washed, tricked, or put them under a sire bond or spell - otherwise they'd obviously would never have done it. Because it would be wrong! (Seriously, at this point in the story, I begin to have an overwhelming desire to smack the writers upside the head.)

Now, just because the tv series is over...does not mean the ship is. In some cases writers have resurrected it in new mediums. Even, gasp!, comic books. Yes, that's right, Jack and Jill may have gone their separate ways on that tv show which ended three years back, but guess what - there's now a comic book series out by the original creator that has resurrected them. OR, wait, a revival of the tv show will occur twenty years later and they will be resurrected on that. Or the show will be rebooted. Or it will happen in novelizations.

Try as you might, you can't kill this ship. Cockroaches are easier to kill. Once you think it is dead, finally, completely dead, buried, that there is no coming back - it pops up again. And at the strangest times. Just to make you, the viewer/reader crazy.

Why tv writers are addicted to this trope, and they all are, doesn't matter which genre, I'll never know. I've seen it done on everything from Cheers to Buffy the Vampire Slayer to
The Good Wife. It's particularly common on soap operas, although soaps deal with it better - mainly because they last longer - so the writers have more time to play the whole thing out to the point that they get bored of it and the characters and audience finally move on.
After all it's a little hard to successfully tease a star-crossed lover relationship for 20 years. 10 years maybe, but 20 is pushing it.

Here's my sample list of star-crossed love relationships that tv writers got hooked on and would not let die, even though they should have:

* Cheers: Sam and Diane
* Buffy: Buffy and Angel
* Angel: Buffy and Angel (yes this ship actually was kept around on two shows)
* Remington Steel - Laura and Mr. Steel
* The Good Wife: Will and Alicia
* Doctor Who : Rose Tyler and Doctor Who ( a parallel universe and Billie Piper leaving the series couldn't end it)
* BattleStar Galatica: Starbuck and Apollo (they even got married to other people and she left, and died, twice)
* Moonlighting (Maddy and whoever Bruce Willis played)
* Dallas (JR and Sue Ellen, Pam and Bobby - two for the price of one)
* Vampire Diaries (Stefan and Elena)

And that's just a sample. I'm sure there are more. I also didn't include the unrequited love list:

* Veronica/Logan - Veronica Mars
* Tim Riggins/ Cheerleader whose name I forget (Friday Night Lights)
* Will/Alicia (yes two lists for the price of one)
* Spike/Buffy
* Angel/Darla
* Damon/Elena
* Starbuck/Apollo - two lists for the price of one

Date: 2013-04-07 01:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shapinglight
I don't understand why that trope is so popular either, but it must be. Presumably, if everyone disliked it as much as we do, even clueless TV writers would eventually get a clue.

Date: 2013-04-07 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
I think we all start out liking it...such as the first two seasons, but by the fourth-fifth season, it gets old and you can tell the writers are flogging a dead horse.

Date: 2013-04-07 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] embers-log.livejournal.com
I am really glad I went back to watching 'Walking Dead' because this 3rd season really blew me away! I wasn't spoiled for Andrea's death and I was pretty shocked by it (but I agree w/you... she got a story arc, but had so much baggage it would have been hard to return to the Prison, it was a good time for her to go). I also was unspoiled for Merl's death, and I was so glad he got his redemptive death, trying to do the right thing.

I kinda loved the Governor's spiral into insanity, I thought they showed us the steps of him totally losing it. And finally he couldn't take anyone questioning him, he required absolute abject followers... so when his 'army' questioned him he mowed them down (shocking, but ... amazing). So he is still out there... somewhere....

And yeah, Michonne has really emerged as one of the strongest most interesting subtle characters in the show. I am seriously loving this show.

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