Once Upon A Time - Tonight's Episode
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shadowkatWhy are the Rumplestilskin episodes always the best? It's not just Robert Carylyle, it's also the plotting.
* Aha...Regina didn't know Henry was Baelfire's kid. Apparently she was so focused on killing Henry's family that the reason Baelfire returned to Storybrook was lost on her.
Rumple was sort of funny - "You managed to miss that particular bit of news? Ah, let me enlighten you. He's Baelfire's son."
Regina: What? You mean to tell me you are Henry's Grandfather?
Rumple: Yep, guess that makes us indirectly related.
Regina: You totally planned this!
Rumple: Actually no. I had no clue.
Regina: That's not possible. There's no way you couldn't have known. You procured Henry for me.
Rumple (shrugs): Came as a bit of surprise to me too. (And the actor playing Rumple showed his surprise better too. What is it about pretty people and their inability to emote well?)
Regina (give the actress credit - she's trying): This can't be just a coincidence.
Rumple (shrugs): No. It's fate.
Well misery loves company and Regina insists on Rumple joining her. She proceeds to bait him with the fact that who is he fooling, no one wants him either. They'll never let him in.
(Regina, darling, stop baiting Rumple - it's counterproductive to your ends. She's so good at shooting herself in the foot, it's almost laughable. Honey, Rumple unlike you is not fantasizing about killing Snow and her family, he's dreaming about killing Henry. Keep it up and he will. Sometimes you just want to smack the character upside the head.)
* Regina, being the brilliant strategist that she is, decides to go jar some of Belle's post-cure memories. Apparently the curse made everyone the opposite of who they actually were. Well in some respects at any rate. In the non-magical world - Belle is a femme fatale with a thing for the bad boys. She's not interested in the good in people, but the nasty. In short she'd much rather hump the Sheriff of Nottingham than Gold. Granted the Sheriff is sort of hot. Oddly hotter than Robin Hood - who doesn't appear to be in storybrook yet. But is in the FTL flashacks.
Belle is now Lacey and love the Rabbit Hole - which is most likely run by the White Rabbit.
And frequented by the Sheriff of Nottingham. Everyone is afraid of Gold, but she has no idea why. He's so nice to her. Well that is until he stumbles upon her and the Sheriff, and she
rejects him. Then he decides, you know what - why bother, I'll just be nasty and remove the Sheriff's tongue while I beat him senseless. I'd care - but this is the Sheriff of Nottingham, who is a bit of a creep.
Also...Lacy and Belle have one thing in common - both are insanelydumb niave. Seriously, if everyone is afraid of Gold - don't you think there may be something to that, honey? Just because you haven't seen it - doesn't mean there's not some truth to it.
Gold has gone to Charming to ask for help in wooing Lacey/Belle again. Charming tells him to remind her what she saw in him in the first place that's what worked for him and Snow (well that and the whole one true love bit...but we won't go there). Gold follows his advice and it doesn't quite work - mainly because Lacey unlike Belle, has a yen for power - and Gold is being well nice and sort of wimpy. She wants a hot alpha male with a dark edge - someone like Hook. Where is Hook when we need him? (Wait I'll get back to that in a minute).
Lucky for her, Gold has a dark side, and has no problem expressing it.
I think Regina would have been better off letting well enough alone.
* Regina confronts Emma regarding Neal.
Regina: How long did you think you could keep this from me?
Emma (who has her own issues to worry over, rolls her eyes. Regina is so high maintenance.): Sorry, was sort of busy preventing you from killing my entire family at the time.
Regina: What are you hiding from me? You are hiding something. I will find out.
Emma: This may come as a shock to you but not everyone is scheming to get what they want just because you are.
Go Emma. Although you did clue Regina into something - you have to work on that hiding secrets deal.
* Meanwhile Tamara and Greg are busy scheming...they apparently brought a package to help them out. Or Tamara brought it with her. Surprise surprise - it's our old friend Hook. Turns out we were right - Tamara let Hook out of the lock-up bin, that Emma placed him in. Okay not so much let him out as abducted him as a secret weapon. Sort of a lame secret weapon - considering all he has managed to do to date is knock Belle's memories from her, and almost kill Rumple - okay those things are pretty major, but aren't they after Regina? Maybe they want to get the dark one's magic, assuming of course they know about it.
Hook's weakness appears to be women. They keep getting the better of him and double-crossing him.
Not sure what Tamara and Greg's end game is exactly. They want to find Greg's Dad, we know that much, assuming the father is still here. And they want to do something with magic, but other than that I don't know.
It's ironic that Emma is the only one worrying over what Pinnochio attempted to tell her - because honestly I think she's probably safest, her and Henry. Tamara and Greg are after everyone else. And Neal's reaction to her statement of worry is endearing and ironic as well, dude you are in for a major shock soon, not to mention a great deal of heart break, but on a brighter note - your father has returned to his dark side. So there's that.
* Speaking of Rumple - Rumple has a nightmare at the beginning of the episode, where he turns Henry into a porceline boy on his birthday and then breaks him with the wand in front of the entire family. He jars awake, horrified. Which means he probably won't do it. After all it wasn't exactly a nice dream, but a frightening one. (I'm not worried about them killing off Henry. Other characters sure, but not the kid. The most they'll do is make him grow up fast. This is broadcast tv, and it's marketed as family fare, you don't kill off kids in those types of shows. Even LOST didn't do it.)
The Rumple episodes handle the small bits and pieces we get of Henry, Neal, Emma, Snow and Charming better than the non-Rumple episodes...in my humble opinion. They seem to have more to do and aren't just standing around looking puzzled or observing.
* Like the Lacy plot twist with Belle. And Belle in FTL is in some respects more interesting than Belle in Storybrook was. Although that's true with a lot of characters. I can see why Snow and Charming want to go back to FTL now.
* Regina (who really has issues of her own and should stop worrying and scheming against the Charming family but she's obsessed, what can you do?): has decided to figure out what they are hiding from her and up to. Turns out they are growing magic beans and plotting their escape root back to FTL. Emma was similarily astonished. "Why do you want to go back there? There's ogres and stuff! It's hardly safe." Snow and Charming: "But we can make it safe, it's a challenge..." Snow - "I had a change of heart since I killed Cora - I want to redeem myself in the Enchanted Kingdom. Come with!" Emma: "But...I'm used to here."
I can't say I blame Emma. Gee what to pick. A Post-apocalyptic FTL with ogres, giants, and other problems, or Storybrook and the wide wide world outside it. Keep in mind, Emma isn't limited to Storybrook like everyone else is.
She's conflicted. And when she asks Neal what he wants to do - he more or less agrees - spent my life trying to get away from that world. Yes, well, guess what dude, you can't run away from your past or fate, it catches up with you.
Overall a fun episode, with lots of rewinding on my part.
* Aha...Regina didn't know Henry was Baelfire's kid. Apparently she was so focused on killing Henry's family that the reason Baelfire returned to Storybrook was lost on her.
Rumple was sort of funny - "You managed to miss that particular bit of news? Ah, let me enlighten you. He's Baelfire's son."
Regina: What? You mean to tell me you are Henry's Grandfather?
Rumple: Yep, guess that makes us indirectly related.
Regina: You totally planned this!
Rumple: Actually no. I had no clue.
Regina: That's not possible. There's no way you couldn't have known. You procured Henry for me.
Rumple (shrugs): Came as a bit of surprise to me too. (And the actor playing Rumple showed his surprise better too. What is it about pretty people and their inability to emote well?)
Regina (give the actress credit - she's trying): This can't be just a coincidence.
Rumple (shrugs): No. It's fate.
Well misery loves company and Regina insists on Rumple joining her. She proceeds to bait him with the fact that who is he fooling, no one wants him either. They'll never let him in.
(Regina, darling, stop baiting Rumple - it's counterproductive to your ends. She's so good at shooting herself in the foot, it's almost laughable. Honey, Rumple unlike you is not fantasizing about killing Snow and her family, he's dreaming about killing Henry. Keep it up and he will. Sometimes you just want to smack the character upside the head.)
* Regina, being the brilliant strategist that she is, decides to go jar some of Belle's post-cure memories. Apparently the curse made everyone the opposite of who they actually were. Well in some respects at any rate. In the non-magical world - Belle is a femme fatale with a thing for the bad boys. She's not interested in the good in people, but the nasty. In short she'd much rather hump the Sheriff of Nottingham than Gold. Granted the Sheriff is sort of hot. Oddly hotter than Robin Hood - who doesn't appear to be in storybrook yet. But is in the FTL flashacks.
Belle is now Lacey and love the Rabbit Hole - which is most likely run by the White Rabbit.
And frequented by the Sheriff of Nottingham. Everyone is afraid of Gold, but she has no idea why. He's so nice to her. Well that is until he stumbles upon her and the Sheriff, and she
rejects him. Then he decides, you know what - why bother, I'll just be nasty and remove the Sheriff's tongue while I beat him senseless. I'd care - but this is the Sheriff of Nottingham, who is a bit of a creep.
Also...Lacy and Belle have one thing in common - both are insanely
Gold has gone to Charming to ask for help in wooing Lacey/Belle again. Charming tells him to remind her what she saw in him in the first place that's what worked for him and Snow (well that and the whole one true love bit...but we won't go there). Gold follows his advice and it doesn't quite work - mainly because Lacey unlike Belle, has a yen for power - and Gold is being well nice and sort of wimpy. She wants a hot alpha male with a dark edge - someone like Hook. Where is Hook when we need him? (Wait I'll get back to that in a minute).
Lucky for her, Gold has a dark side, and has no problem expressing it.
I think Regina would have been better off letting well enough alone.
* Regina confronts Emma regarding Neal.
Regina: How long did you think you could keep this from me?
Emma (who has her own issues to worry over, rolls her eyes. Regina is so high maintenance.): Sorry, was sort of busy preventing you from killing my entire family at the time.
Regina: What are you hiding from me? You are hiding something. I will find out.
Emma: This may come as a shock to you but not everyone is scheming to get what they want just because you are.
Go Emma. Although you did clue Regina into something - you have to work on that hiding secrets deal.
* Meanwhile Tamara and Greg are busy scheming...they apparently brought a package to help them out. Or Tamara brought it with her. Surprise surprise - it's our old friend Hook. Turns out we were right - Tamara let Hook out of the lock-up bin, that Emma placed him in. Okay not so much let him out as abducted him as a secret weapon. Sort of a lame secret weapon - considering all he has managed to do to date is knock Belle's memories from her, and almost kill Rumple - okay those things are pretty major, but aren't they after Regina? Maybe they want to get the dark one's magic, assuming of course they know about it.
Hook's weakness appears to be women. They keep getting the better of him and double-crossing him.
Not sure what Tamara and Greg's end game is exactly. They want to find Greg's Dad, we know that much, assuming the father is still here. And they want to do something with magic, but other than that I don't know.
It's ironic that Emma is the only one worrying over what Pinnochio attempted to tell her - because honestly I think she's probably safest, her and Henry. Tamara and Greg are after everyone else. And Neal's reaction to her statement of worry is endearing and ironic as well, dude you are in for a major shock soon, not to mention a great deal of heart break, but on a brighter note - your father has returned to his dark side. So there's that.
* Speaking of Rumple - Rumple has a nightmare at the beginning of the episode, where he turns Henry into a porceline boy on his birthday and then breaks him with the wand in front of the entire family. He jars awake, horrified. Which means he probably won't do it. After all it wasn't exactly a nice dream, but a frightening one. (I'm not worried about them killing off Henry. Other characters sure, but not the kid. The most they'll do is make him grow up fast. This is broadcast tv, and it's marketed as family fare, you don't kill off kids in those types of shows. Even LOST didn't do it.)
The Rumple episodes handle the small bits and pieces we get of Henry, Neal, Emma, Snow and Charming better than the non-Rumple episodes...in my humble opinion. They seem to have more to do and aren't just standing around looking puzzled or observing.
* Like the Lacy plot twist with Belle. And Belle in FTL is in some respects more interesting than Belle in Storybrook was. Although that's true with a lot of characters. I can see why Snow and Charming want to go back to FTL now.
* Regina (who really has issues of her own and should stop worrying and scheming against the Charming family but she's obsessed, what can you do?): has decided to figure out what they are hiding from her and up to. Turns out they are growing magic beans and plotting their escape root back to FTL. Emma was similarily astonished. "Why do you want to go back there? There's ogres and stuff! It's hardly safe." Snow and Charming: "But we can make it safe, it's a challenge..." Snow - "I had a change of heart since I killed Cora - I want to redeem myself in the Enchanted Kingdom. Come with!" Emma: "But...I'm used to here."
I can't say I blame Emma. Gee what to pick. A Post-apocalyptic FTL with ogres, giants, and other problems, or Storybrook and the wide wide world outside it. Keep in mind, Emma isn't limited to Storybrook like everyone else is.
She's conflicted. And when she asks Neal what he wants to do - he more or less agrees - spent my life trying to get away from that world. Yes, well, guess what dude, you can't run away from your past or fate, it catches up with you.
Overall a fun episode, with lots of rewinding on my part.
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Date: 2013-04-22 03:12 am (UTC)God! I am so glad the Regina-finds-out moment finally happened and she gave the reaction she should have under the circumstances. They waited to have that moment when Rumple was feeling a little more vulnerable, I guess, so she could use it to make him feel more so.
Regina jumping to the conclusion that Emma was "hiding something" from her saying, "get nice before you lose Henry forever" was lazy plotting. That could have much more easily meant Henry will reject her for being a bee-yatch. But I guess that truth hasn't sunk in and may never sink in.
I was SO waiting for her to torch the whole field. That would end the exodus to FTL issue and set the stage for season 3 in Storybrooke.
Rumple seemed horrified by his dream of killing Henry, but one point of the episode was to shift away from nice guy and back towards the Dark One who'll do anything to hang onto his power. Even risk losing the son he worked so hard to find by killing his son's son? Hard to say. I suspect he will either (1) try and fail [family show, as you say] or (2) banish Henry to another realm, which will turn out to be Neverland for the season ender.
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Date: 2013-04-22 10:01 pm (UTC)It's an issue I have with a few of the characters - Snow, Regina, and Belle - they are all so stupid at times. Regina is the smartest of the bunch...but I still want to smack her upside the head.
I'd liked the episode for the Rumple bits - even with Belle, I find him interesting - which may say more about the actor than the writing. Also, Robin Hood and the Sheriff of Nottingham were wasted. They did more with Mulan and Aurora...which is sort of what I like about the series - female characters actually have more to do, unless of course you are Rumplestilskin.
And for the record I don't ship Belle/Rumple - Rumple:Emma (platonic, please!) Rumple:Henry (ditto), Rumple: Baelfire, and weirdly Rumple/Cora and Rumple:Regina, also Rumple:Charming. The only romantic relationship I've shipped to date is Cora/Rumple and Emma/Baelfire or Emma/Huntsman.
Belle annoys me as a character. Lacey is slightly more interesting, yet still dumb as a post.
Agree on Rumple - he did seem horrified by his dream of killing Henry.
(I caught enough spoilers by the writers of the series to know that he won't. Plus it just doesn't work with this series. If this were a Whedon show or Grimm or Being Human or a daytime soap opera - I'd say yes, they'll kill him. But not here. No way. It's Disney!)
Also agree on Regina...it was lazy plotting. Way too big a jump in logic. I was thinking, wait, how in the heck did you figure that? I liked Emma's response - you're just paranoid. Which is true - Regina is paranoid and self-absorbed and has a weird martyr syndrome that she needs to get over. I honestly think she believes she is the hero in this play. Henry and Emma keep pulling rug out from under her - stating, uh no, hon, I hate to break this to you, but you're the villain. It is rather funny and goes to something that Whedon stated once in commentary to Seth Green that has for some reason or other always stuck with me. Seth asked him how he managed to write interesting and complicated villains, and Whedon stated - well the trick is to realize that villain doesn't see himself or herself as the villain, in their head they are the hero. The other guy is the villain.
Makes sense. So maybe I'm wrong about Regina - she's actually better written than I give them credit for. I just find her dumb at times. She's too bloody honest. The way to get Henry is to play his family, not constantly be at odds with them.
I knew she wouldn't torch the field - mainly because the writers have gone out of their way to create it. They want to give the Storybrook characters a means to get the heck out of Storybrook if necessary.
Also it's not really in her best interest to do so...keep in mind, The Enchanted Forest has magic, the real world doesn't. If everyone jumped through a portal to a magical realm, along with Regina, Regina would have magic and power. If Emma and Neal grabbed Henry and took off into the Real World -- Regina would be out of luck. If I were Regina, I'd keep my options open. Particularly since...Storybrook has become a bit unpredictable lately - she doesn't have as much control as she once did. Also I'm not so sure she's as happy with the curse as we think.
The other reason I knew she wouldn't...is I'm willing to bet money the end game for this season is "everyone" making a mad dash out of storybrook into a portal. Whether they all end up in the same place is another question. I think whatever Tamara and Greg have planned may result in the mad dash out of Landwithoutmagic. I don't think S3 will be in Storybrook, Maine. I think the writers have grown bored of it, and will show flashbacks. Keep in mind they like to switch things up a bit each season. This isn't like Lost, we aren't getting drawn out storylines. The plot is moving a heck of a lot faster.
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Date: 2013-04-22 10:51 pm (UTC)I seriously doubt we've seen the end of Robin Hood. Why bother bringing in such famous names unless it's just a way to introduce them into the story and bring them back more in s. 3.
Just don't kill off Baelfire. That's all I ask. Okay, maybe I ask for more than that.
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Date: 2013-04-23 01:50 am (UTC)(ie. wait until at least S4, please. If you want to kill someone off to further Rumple's arc - how about Belle/Lacey? That would work.)
Hope you are right about Robin Hood...he could have been interesting. And a nice counterpoint to Neal and Hook.
I have a feeling - all the characters are going to end up in Neverland, although I don't know how well that works - if memory serves, Neverland isn't exactly that big or interesting. But...they could play around with it, I suppose.
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Date: 2013-04-23 02:00 am (UTC)I could see them punishing Rumple by killing his son. But would they punish Henry by killing his father?
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Date: 2013-04-23 02:09 am (UTC)