OUAT....The Second Star to the Right...
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shadowkatWhile this episode provided a few interesting twists, it was like all the episodes incredibly frustrating at times. I actually found last week's more entertaining, if less logical. This week's...had it's moments, but I wanted to fiddle with it. Or edit it. That's my problem with Once Upon a Time - I keep wanting to fix it. Remove this, add that. Less of this, more of that.
* The twist on the Peter Pan story was rather clever. In the original, Peter Pan's shadow is a mischevious thing that Peter keeps chasing, and needs Wendy to sew on. He manages to convince Tinker Bell to provide enough fairy dust to take them all to Neverland. They defeat the pirates and return home, with Peter flying Captain Hook's vessel.
In this version, the shadow is it's own dark entity, where it entices children to come with it to Neverland, and they can never leave. But only lost boys. Girls it doesn't want. Just little boys. The mythos reminds me a bit of horror tales about the Fae taking children and leaving changling's in their place. Here, it just takes the child.
Baelfire drops into this world - Victorian England, and ends up of all places in the Darling household, where he meets Wendy. Wonder what would have happened if he ended up in the Banks household - would we have ended up with an evil Mary Poppins? The writers seem to like to look at fairy tales and children's stories from a rather dark perspective.
At any rate he finds out about the shadow and attempts to warn Wendy, but she goes off with it. He assumes he'll never see her again - but the shadow returns her the next morning - it didn't want her - it wants another little boy - to add to its collection. She fears it will come for one of her brother's next. Bae honorably sacrifices himself and the shadow takes him, he tries to fight it - although it would have made more sense to wait until he was on the ground than fight it in the air. At any rate, the shadow drops Bae into the sea, where Captain Hook fishes him out. (I wonder if Bae knows that Hook is his step-father or if Hook knows who Baelfire is? The show will undoubtedly tell us at some point.)
Bae has a tendency to fall prey to magic and get whooshed off into strange lands as a result.
He also leaves people behind a lot. I'm wondering if he ends up becoming Peter Pan at some point or if that character has yet to be introduced? Guessing the later.
* The Neal/Emma scenes were rewarding, if frustrating in places. In particular, because they keep paralleling Rumple/Bae with Emma/Bae. Rumple called Neal on his torch for Emma. He said he couldn't imagine how the Tamara/Neal thing could work out - since Neal is obviously still carrying a torch for Emma. Neal denies it. (Yeah, well it won't work out because Tamara is basically using Neal and is more interested in her co-agent Owen.)
Neal and everyone else refuses to believe Emma about Tamara, which actually makes sense. Why would they? But Neal does follow Emma and helps her. Unfortunately, Emma is okay, it's Neal who needs help and is off his game. Tamara knocks Emma out and reveals herself to Neal, surprising me by confessing all. I'm like oh, wow, that was fast. But then there's only one episode left. They don't have much time to wrap this plot line up.
Tamara: This is a cause you should be behind...after what you told me.
Neal: You never loved me? How long have you been playing me? (Neal, next time Emma has a hunch about something? Believe her.)
Tamara: Since I deliberately spilled coffee down your shirt.
Before he can get too upset or feel like complete idiot, she shoots him, then puts a gun to his head.
Me to TV set: NO! Don't you dare kill him yet, you stupid writers. It's too bloody soon! You haven't given me enough of his story yet. If you pull another Huntsman and Cora on me - I'm done! I'm done, I tell you!
Emma (my hero) thankfully pops up (gee she recovers fast, Tamara must not have hit her that hard?) and kicks Tamara's ass. Unfortunately, before she can shoot Tamara, Tamara whips out a magic bean and creates a portal. Neal saves Emma from the portal, only to fall into it himself. She grabs hold of him.
Emma: Don't you dare let go.
Neal: Emma you can't hold on to me, it's too strong - it will take both of us.
Emma: Then it does.
Neal: No, Henry needs you - you have to stay for him.
Emma: But I love you...don't let go. You're shot - I can save you.
Neal: I love you too. Take care of Henry. (He lets go)
Me & Emma: Noooo!
Although, on the bright side? Neal isn't dead. At least not yet. He's just fallen through another porthole. Poor Rumplestilskin. He keeps losing his kid through these nasty portholes. I'm surprised he didn't destroy the nasty magic beans - probably would have if he knew about them. This is what happens when you get wrapped up in you love interest and ignore everything that is happening around you - thinking, eh, Regina held captive - so does not concern me.
Emma and Rumple have a lot in common. They've both lost Neal through portholes. Actually Emma's loss of Neal is incredibly similar to Rumple's. They should go talk to Hook - he'll probably tell them that Neal's undoubtedly in Neverland. Actually even the filming of the scene where he falls into the porthole is similar to when he falls into the one Rumple is attempting to keep him out of.
I did rather like Emma and Neal's conversation on the beach before Tamara popped up.
Where Neal tells her that it killed him to have her serve his jail time. (I think he redeemed himself when he fell through the porthole for her, and saved her from it. Well sort of. I need more than that show. He better pop up again and soon. Or I'm done, I tell you! Done! (okay maybe not, but stupid show is incredibly frustrating at times).) And he wanted to do it for her. That he didn't pursue her afterwards...because he was afraid to love her, afraid she could never forgive him - because he couldn't forgive himself. A day didn't go by in which he didn't think about how he abandoned her. (Aww...be still my shipper heart! The writing and direction in this needs to be slightly better...I know Michael Raymond James is a better actor than this.)
* Turns out I was right, Tamara and Owen do want to remove all magic from our world. (Similar theme to Merlin - except I think Merlin is doing a better job with it. Whedon also played with this theme recently in his comic books - and again, Merlin is doing a better job with it. This is a bit hackneyed and convoluted, also trite. Oh, we must remove magic it is the root of all evil, while science is good because obviously science hasn't killed anyone or hurt our world in any way. Just magic. You'd think people would grow out of this black and white view of things...but apparently not.)
They are part of a covert organization devoted to cleaning the world of magic. (Gee, where have I heard that plot-line before, oh wait, LOST and also Fringe, there's a trend. And Merlin, except no covert organization - just Uther Pendragon.) It's all rather silly.
Owen of course is more devoted to torturing Regina into telling him what happened to his Dad. Apparently she killed him after he left Storybrook. Why, I've no idea. Possibly because Regina is a homicidal maniac? Also, why Snow White and Charming are determined to save her lily white ass - I'm equally clueless on. Regina's even surprised. "You are saving me? Why?"
They explain. Regina asks what happened to Tamara and Greg/Owen, and realizes they took off with both the beans and the trigger. (Another shout-out to Lost, this show is too meta for its own good. Wish it was as well written as Lost.) Oops. Regina explains what the trigger does.
Charming and Snow: And you were carrying this around with you, because?
Regina: Well I didn't plan on staying. I stole the beans with the plan to take Henry and go back to the Enchanted Forest, then pull the Trigger.
Charming and Snow (who are starting to wonder why they bothered to save Regina too): While everyone in Storybrook dies?
Regina: Yeah right, like you were planning on taking me along, when you high-tailed it out of here.
Me: Yes well, there's one teeny weeny difference hon, they didn't have a trigger that destroyed everyone in the town after they left. In short they aren't homicidal. You are.
Talking to Regina must feel a lot like talking to a deranged female version of Hannibal Lector. Except Hannibal was smarter.
Meanwhile, Emma is shell-shocked. Kudos to Jennifer Morrison for actually looking shell-shocked. She looked like someone hit her (metaphorically speaking) with a two-by-four. She reconnects with the love of her life, only to lose him.
Her parents are mildly sympathetic, which is odd, considering if anyone should understand what she is going through - you'd think it would be them. Plus, Neal was shot in the side, so from Emma's point of view, he's not only gone, he's most likely lost and dying. In short she'll never see him again. (I wouldn't count on it - if they'd intended that, they'd have killed him. Although Emma's luck with men doesn't appear to be much better than Rumplestilskin's luck with women or Regina and Neal's for that matter.)
Poor Emma. "What will I tell Henry?" Forget Henry, I'd be worrying about breaking it to Rumplestilskin who doesn't exactly have the most understanding of natures. Especially considering how long he has worked to find his bloody son. Also, there's that little problem with Rumple worrying about Henry being his undoing - and at the moment the only complication was Neal/Bae. Now that Neal/Bae is lost through yet another porthole and presumed dead, not a whole lot standing in his way. And how much you want to bet he blames Emma for the whole thing? Although she can easily explain it. Meanwhile Lacy (dark Belle) is talking Rumple into using dark magic, making her immortal like him, and doing away with whatever stands in their way. She's admittedly less grating then Belle, but not by much.
I still want to smack her. Also I can't quite tell if she is playing him or not. No, she doesn't strike me as all that bright.
Meanwhile...in the woods, Owen and Tamara discover that Regina was telling the truth - she did kill Owen's father and bury him at their camp-site. (See? What did I tell you? Homicidial Maniac. That woman alone is enough justification to end all magic and blow up Storybrook.)
Tamara tells Owen that she knows what the funky jewel does. And they've received orders to pull the trigger - to blow Storybrook off the map. (I wonder if they are smart enough to leave first? They strike me as brighter than Regina...so it's possible.)
I keep waiting for someone to fill Rumplestilskin in on what is going on. Granted whether or not he'll care and help is up in the air. The man is anything if unpredictable and opportunistic. Same with Hook. Hook and Rumple sort of mirror each other in some weird ways.
Both are fun villains.
I rather liked Hook's refusal to hang around and watch Owen torture Regina. "Hang around and watch you torture Regina, I think not. But if you want to help me kill a Crocodile - call me. I'm outta here." Regina is right, he shouldn't have trusted them. Hook really has serious trust issues - in that he keeps getting conned. Hook and Neal have this in common, they are both thieves and con men - who appear to specialize in getting played and by some of the same characters no less. They should compare notes.
Well, instead of Henry taking off to Neverland - it looks like it is Neal. And my prediction?
The final is going to end with the FTL characters making a mad dash for a porthole - when the town goes kablooey. They'll probably end up in Neverland, possibly because the writers aren't ready to go back to Enchanted Forest quite yet.
What worked in the story is Snow White's arc - she redeems herself by going out of her way to save Regina. And why she does it is explained in the prior episodes flashbacks. The other bit that worked was Rumplestilksin and Bae's arc - where Bae is constantly fighting against magic, only to get sucked into it again - and both times he loses someone he loves the most.
Emma's arc also works - she remains the bright steely-eyed detective and kick-ass heroine.
Also is well-played by Morrison. I wish I liked the actress playing Snow better, but Goodwin gets on my nerves (she did on Big Love too - one of the many reasons I couldn't get into that series which my aunts loved to pieces). Goodwin's Snow White in FTL/Enchanted Forest worked better for me than she does in Storybrook. I like the character, it's the actress I'm struggling with - same with Josh Dallas' David.
Wanted more Hook and more Rumple. And felt cheated by no Rumple/Tamara scenes. But I guess that will happen next episode? Or at least I hope so. I know there's a huge turning point coming up regarding Rumple/Henry that is a game-changer. I don't believe it is Neal falling through the porthole again. I think it is something else. I think Rumple genuinely cares about Henry - and I think Henry may be the key to both Rumple and Regina's decision to help.
I suspect from how this episode ended, we'll get more on Baelfire in Neverland next episode, along with seeing where Neal ended up - which I'm willing to bet is Neverland. This may explain why Neal is over 600 years old and has no desire to return to the age he was when he left the Enchanted Forest. After all if you've been stuck at the age of 14 for 600 years...the idea of returning to that age isn't exactly all that appealing. I do wonder if the trigger is pulled and everyone jumps through a porthole, does that mean they all get their memories back including Lacy? Also how many portholes do they have to jump through to get home? This reminds me of Lost and everyone's attempts to get off the island, only to constantly end up back on it again - talk about frustrating storylines. I'm hoping they don't do that. Although wandering from one storybrook universe to another, could be fun.
Also I rather enjoy (not quite the right word) the idea of an insane organization devoted to cleansing our world of magic any time it pops up. It's interesting idea, although not well executed. I want to rewrite it. Bring in the organization sooner. Drop more hints. Explain it better. Instead of have it all pop in out of the blue as if the writers just came up with the idea half-way through the season. (What do we do now that we've killed off Cora? We can't just have the season be about Regina and Snow, we got to do something bigger and get everyone out of Storybook - changing things up a bit. Oh, I know, we'll bring in an anti-magic organization - or outside threat in the last five episodes! And make Neal's fiancee one of the operatives - we'll also make her a badass killer - devoted to her cause, ie a religious zealot.)
Anyone want to join me? We could rewrite the season as a fanfic...fixing all the bits that annoy us. I remember people doing that with Buffy at times, and Angel.
* The twist on the Peter Pan story was rather clever. In the original, Peter Pan's shadow is a mischevious thing that Peter keeps chasing, and needs Wendy to sew on. He manages to convince Tinker Bell to provide enough fairy dust to take them all to Neverland. They defeat the pirates and return home, with Peter flying Captain Hook's vessel.
In this version, the shadow is it's own dark entity, where it entices children to come with it to Neverland, and they can never leave. But only lost boys. Girls it doesn't want. Just little boys. The mythos reminds me a bit of horror tales about the Fae taking children and leaving changling's in their place. Here, it just takes the child.
Baelfire drops into this world - Victorian England, and ends up of all places in the Darling household, where he meets Wendy. Wonder what would have happened if he ended up in the Banks household - would we have ended up with an evil Mary Poppins? The writers seem to like to look at fairy tales and children's stories from a rather dark perspective.
At any rate he finds out about the shadow and attempts to warn Wendy, but she goes off with it. He assumes he'll never see her again - but the shadow returns her the next morning - it didn't want her - it wants another little boy - to add to its collection. She fears it will come for one of her brother's next. Bae honorably sacrifices himself and the shadow takes him, he tries to fight it - although it would have made more sense to wait until he was on the ground than fight it in the air. At any rate, the shadow drops Bae into the sea, where Captain Hook fishes him out. (I wonder if Bae knows that Hook is his step-father or if Hook knows who Baelfire is? The show will undoubtedly tell us at some point.)
Bae has a tendency to fall prey to magic and get whooshed off into strange lands as a result.
He also leaves people behind a lot. I'm wondering if he ends up becoming Peter Pan at some point or if that character has yet to be introduced? Guessing the later.
* The Neal/Emma scenes were rewarding, if frustrating in places. In particular, because they keep paralleling Rumple/Bae with Emma/Bae. Rumple called Neal on his torch for Emma. He said he couldn't imagine how the Tamara/Neal thing could work out - since Neal is obviously still carrying a torch for Emma. Neal denies it. (Yeah, well it won't work out because Tamara is basically using Neal and is more interested in her co-agent Owen.)
Neal and everyone else refuses to believe Emma about Tamara, which actually makes sense. Why would they? But Neal does follow Emma and helps her. Unfortunately, Emma is okay, it's Neal who needs help and is off his game. Tamara knocks Emma out and reveals herself to Neal, surprising me by confessing all. I'm like oh, wow, that was fast. But then there's only one episode left. They don't have much time to wrap this plot line up.
Tamara: This is a cause you should be behind...after what you told me.
Neal: You never loved me? How long have you been playing me? (Neal, next time Emma has a hunch about something? Believe her.)
Tamara: Since I deliberately spilled coffee down your shirt.
Before he can get too upset or feel like complete idiot, she shoots him, then puts a gun to his head.
Me to TV set: NO! Don't you dare kill him yet, you stupid writers. It's too bloody soon! You haven't given me enough of his story yet. If you pull another Huntsman and Cora on me - I'm done! I'm done, I tell you!
Emma (my hero) thankfully pops up (gee she recovers fast, Tamara must not have hit her that hard?) and kicks Tamara's ass. Unfortunately, before she can shoot Tamara, Tamara whips out a magic bean and creates a portal. Neal saves Emma from the portal, only to fall into it himself. She grabs hold of him.
Emma: Don't you dare let go.
Neal: Emma you can't hold on to me, it's too strong - it will take both of us.
Emma: Then it does.
Neal: No, Henry needs you - you have to stay for him.
Emma: But I love you...don't let go. You're shot - I can save you.
Neal: I love you too. Take care of Henry. (He lets go)
Me & Emma: Noooo!
Although, on the bright side? Neal isn't dead. At least not yet. He's just fallen through another porthole. Poor Rumplestilskin. He keeps losing his kid through these nasty portholes. I'm surprised he didn't destroy the nasty magic beans - probably would have if he knew about them. This is what happens when you get wrapped up in you love interest and ignore everything that is happening around you - thinking, eh, Regina held captive - so does not concern me.
Emma and Rumple have a lot in common. They've both lost Neal through portholes. Actually Emma's loss of Neal is incredibly similar to Rumple's. They should go talk to Hook - he'll probably tell them that Neal's undoubtedly in Neverland. Actually even the filming of the scene where he falls into the porthole is similar to when he falls into the one Rumple is attempting to keep him out of.
I did rather like Emma and Neal's conversation on the beach before Tamara popped up.
Where Neal tells her that it killed him to have her serve his jail time. (I think he redeemed himself when he fell through the porthole for her, and saved her from it. Well sort of. I need more than that show. He better pop up again and soon. Or I'm done, I tell you! Done! (okay maybe not, but stupid show is incredibly frustrating at times).) And he wanted to do it for her. That he didn't pursue her afterwards...because he was afraid to love her, afraid she could never forgive him - because he couldn't forgive himself. A day didn't go by in which he didn't think about how he abandoned her. (Aww...be still my shipper heart! The writing and direction in this needs to be slightly better...I know Michael Raymond James is a better actor than this.)
* Turns out I was right, Tamara and Owen do want to remove all magic from our world. (Similar theme to Merlin - except I think Merlin is doing a better job with it. Whedon also played with this theme recently in his comic books - and again, Merlin is doing a better job with it. This is a bit hackneyed and convoluted, also trite. Oh, we must remove magic it is the root of all evil, while science is good because obviously science hasn't killed anyone or hurt our world in any way. Just magic. You'd think people would grow out of this black and white view of things...but apparently not.)
They are part of a covert organization devoted to cleaning the world of magic. (Gee, where have I heard that plot-line before, oh wait, LOST and also Fringe, there's a trend. And Merlin, except no covert organization - just Uther Pendragon.) It's all rather silly.
Owen of course is more devoted to torturing Regina into telling him what happened to his Dad. Apparently she killed him after he left Storybrook. Why, I've no idea. Possibly because Regina is a homicidal maniac? Also, why Snow White and Charming are determined to save her lily white ass - I'm equally clueless on. Regina's even surprised. "You are saving me? Why?"
They explain. Regina asks what happened to Tamara and Greg/Owen, and realizes they took off with both the beans and the trigger. (Another shout-out to Lost, this show is too meta for its own good. Wish it was as well written as Lost.) Oops. Regina explains what the trigger does.
Charming and Snow: And you were carrying this around with you, because?
Regina: Well I didn't plan on staying. I stole the beans with the plan to take Henry and go back to the Enchanted Forest, then pull the Trigger.
Charming and Snow (who are starting to wonder why they bothered to save Regina too): While everyone in Storybrook dies?
Regina: Yeah right, like you were planning on taking me along, when you high-tailed it out of here.
Me: Yes well, there's one teeny weeny difference hon, they didn't have a trigger that destroyed everyone in the town after they left. In short they aren't homicidal. You are.
Talking to Regina must feel a lot like talking to a deranged female version of Hannibal Lector. Except Hannibal was smarter.
Meanwhile, Emma is shell-shocked. Kudos to Jennifer Morrison for actually looking shell-shocked. She looked like someone hit her (metaphorically speaking) with a two-by-four. She reconnects with the love of her life, only to lose him.
Her parents are mildly sympathetic, which is odd, considering if anyone should understand what she is going through - you'd think it would be them. Plus, Neal was shot in the side, so from Emma's point of view, he's not only gone, he's most likely lost and dying. In short she'll never see him again. (I wouldn't count on it - if they'd intended that, they'd have killed him. Although Emma's luck with men doesn't appear to be much better than Rumplestilskin's luck with women or Regina and Neal's for that matter.)
Poor Emma. "What will I tell Henry?" Forget Henry, I'd be worrying about breaking it to Rumplestilskin who doesn't exactly have the most understanding of natures. Especially considering how long he has worked to find his bloody son. Also, there's that little problem with Rumple worrying about Henry being his undoing - and at the moment the only complication was Neal/Bae. Now that Neal/Bae is lost through yet another porthole and presumed dead, not a whole lot standing in his way. And how much you want to bet he blames Emma for the whole thing? Although she can easily explain it. Meanwhile Lacy (dark Belle) is talking Rumple into using dark magic, making her immortal like him, and doing away with whatever stands in their way. She's admittedly less grating then Belle, but not by much.
I still want to smack her. Also I can't quite tell if she is playing him or not. No, she doesn't strike me as all that bright.
Meanwhile...in the woods, Owen and Tamara discover that Regina was telling the truth - she did kill Owen's father and bury him at their camp-site. (See? What did I tell you? Homicidial Maniac. That woman alone is enough justification to end all magic and blow up Storybrook.)
Tamara tells Owen that she knows what the funky jewel does. And they've received orders to pull the trigger - to blow Storybrook off the map. (I wonder if they are smart enough to leave first? They strike me as brighter than Regina...so it's possible.)
I keep waiting for someone to fill Rumplestilskin in on what is going on. Granted whether or not he'll care and help is up in the air. The man is anything if unpredictable and opportunistic. Same with Hook. Hook and Rumple sort of mirror each other in some weird ways.
Both are fun villains.
I rather liked Hook's refusal to hang around and watch Owen torture Regina. "Hang around and watch you torture Regina, I think not. But if you want to help me kill a Crocodile - call me. I'm outta here." Regina is right, he shouldn't have trusted them. Hook really has serious trust issues - in that he keeps getting conned. Hook and Neal have this in common, they are both thieves and con men - who appear to specialize in getting played and by some of the same characters no less. They should compare notes.
Well, instead of Henry taking off to Neverland - it looks like it is Neal. And my prediction?
The final is going to end with the FTL characters making a mad dash for a porthole - when the town goes kablooey. They'll probably end up in Neverland, possibly because the writers aren't ready to go back to Enchanted Forest quite yet.
What worked in the story is Snow White's arc - she redeems herself by going out of her way to save Regina. And why she does it is explained in the prior episodes flashbacks. The other bit that worked was Rumplestilksin and Bae's arc - where Bae is constantly fighting against magic, only to get sucked into it again - and both times he loses someone he loves the most.
Emma's arc also works - she remains the bright steely-eyed detective and kick-ass heroine.
Also is well-played by Morrison. I wish I liked the actress playing Snow better, but Goodwin gets on my nerves (she did on Big Love too - one of the many reasons I couldn't get into that series which my aunts loved to pieces). Goodwin's Snow White in FTL/Enchanted Forest worked better for me than she does in Storybrook. I like the character, it's the actress I'm struggling with - same with Josh Dallas' David.
Wanted more Hook and more Rumple. And felt cheated by no Rumple/Tamara scenes. But I guess that will happen next episode? Or at least I hope so. I know there's a huge turning point coming up regarding Rumple/Henry that is a game-changer. I don't believe it is Neal falling through the porthole again. I think it is something else. I think Rumple genuinely cares about Henry - and I think Henry may be the key to both Rumple and Regina's decision to help.
I suspect from how this episode ended, we'll get more on Baelfire in Neverland next episode, along with seeing where Neal ended up - which I'm willing to bet is Neverland. This may explain why Neal is over 600 years old and has no desire to return to the age he was when he left the Enchanted Forest. After all if you've been stuck at the age of 14 for 600 years...the idea of returning to that age isn't exactly all that appealing. I do wonder if the trigger is pulled and everyone jumps through a porthole, does that mean they all get their memories back including Lacy? Also how many portholes do they have to jump through to get home? This reminds me of Lost and everyone's attempts to get off the island, only to constantly end up back on it again - talk about frustrating storylines. I'm hoping they don't do that. Although wandering from one storybrook universe to another, could be fun.
Also I rather enjoy (not quite the right word) the idea of an insane organization devoted to cleansing our world of magic any time it pops up. It's interesting idea, although not well executed. I want to rewrite it. Bring in the organization sooner. Drop more hints. Explain it better. Instead of have it all pop in out of the blue as if the writers just came up with the idea half-way through the season. (What do we do now that we've killed off Cora? We can't just have the season be about Regina and Snow, we got to do something bigger and get everyone out of Storybook - changing things up a bit. Oh, I know, we'll bring in an anti-magic organization - or outside threat in the last five episodes! And make Neal's fiancee one of the operatives - we'll also make her a badass killer - devoted to her cause, ie a religious zealot.)
Anyone want to join me? We could rewrite the season as a fanfic...fixing all the bits that annoy us. I remember people doing that with Buffy at times, and Angel.
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Date: 2013-05-06 03:02 am (UTC)Of course Rumplestiltskin/Gold is alway my favorite.
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Date: 2013-05-06 04:20 am (UTC)Was this previously revealed for a fact? I don't recall (which could easily be my faulty memory) but for some reason I don't think she was telling him the truth here. It may have been someone else she killed, or it was him and the death was accidental, or even someone else entirely that she had nothing to do with but knew of the burial.
My read was that she finally sensed that he was going to kill her for certain if she didn't provide something to make him leave right away, since he wouldn't leave even after Tamara told him the jig was up and they had to go.
Unfortunately for her, he tried to kill her anyway, but he did leave, and then Snow & Co. save her.
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Date: 2013-05-06 09:36 pm (UTC)2) It's made pretty clear by previous episodes that Regina doesn't have any problems whatsoever with murdering people she doesn't know. After all she slaughtered an entire village and a whole lot of other people along the line, with no remorse. Plus, she was planning on slaughtering all of Storybook, before Tamara and Greg foiled her evil plans.
3) There's no reason why she wouldn't kill Greg/Owen's Dad. Keeping him around doesn't serve much of a purpose. Plus he foiled her plans, and Regina has a nasty temper. Makes more sense that she killed him.
Then let him stick around and be a problem, if or when anyone discovered him.
4)If she didn't kill him and wanted Owen/Tamara to leave - it would have made more sense to tell them that the father was tucked away in some cubby hole and they needed her to find him or even when he's tucked away - then to lie about killing him. Considering that would result in Greg/Owen killing her. Think about this for a minute - Regina just lost her mother to Snow White - when that happened she wanted to kill Snow White. So, why would she tell Owen that she killed his father unless she did it? Unless she wants him to kill her? Which makes no sense.
5) When he states - "you're lying", she provides accurate information as to the whereabouts of his father's body. "IF you don't believe me, go look at your camp-site, you'll find his bones." Not only that but also his clothes.
Now, why would Regina fake that? What could it possibly gain her? They've already revealed they want her dead. That they plan on destroying Storybook. IF she revealed he was still alive and hiding somewhere in Storybook - Owen would be less inclined to destroy the town and Regina.
A smart person would have lied and stated the father was still alive.
But Regina apparently felt an smidgen of guilt and told the truth.