OUAT - Episode 3.2- Lost Girl
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shadowkatRather enjoying the twist on Peter Pan. In fact in this episode, Emma and Hook have rather fun little exchange regarding the representation of Pan in Disney and the stories we know and the actuality. I don't remember JM Barrie's take on that well - but his was slightly darker than either the adaptations of his work. The Disney animated version is based on the Broadway musical adaptation of JM Barrie's original work.
[Sorry for the double-posting on LJ earlier, but the dang thing is acting up.]
Peter Pan has gone after Henry and Emma Swan - because they are orphans who refuse to except that they are either orphans or abandoned. Yet, deep down both have not forgiven their parents for the abandonment. He's playing similar games with Rumplestilskin who abandoned Baelfire just as his father once abandoned him. The doll is not the doll that Stilskin gave Baelfire but rather the doll that his father made for him. Rumple's issues much like Regina's go back to his own parents and his inability to forgive them. If last season focused on Regina's mommy issues, this season is focusing even more on Rumplestilskin's daddy issues.
Pan himself is a rather fascinating villain. Far more interesting than some of our previous villains. For the question remains what motivates him and is he really a villain? He likes games.
Is a mischief maker. And enjoys sowing seeds of doubt. When he first confronts Emma - he points out that she's the only one who woke up, the only one who heard the crying - why is that? Then devises a game for her to find Henry. He'll even help her - by providing a map. But in order to read it - she must admit who she really is. Emma assumes it is to admit she's the savior (as Rumplestilskin, Henry and her parents keep pressing her to admit.) Interestingly enough - what Pan wanted Emma to admit to was not that she was a hero or savior, but rather a lost little girl - an orphan. And it's odd that it is her mother that presses her to admit it. Once she does - the map appears.
When Emma confronts Pan again - he tells her that at heart she is a "lost little girl". That she has never forgiven her parents for abandoning her. (Personally I see this as displaced blame - the people truly responsible for Emma's separation from her parents are Gepetto, Regina, and Rumplestilskin, not Snow and Charming - who tried everything possible to keep them together. They didn't abandon her - they attempted to save her and they'd intended to go with her or at the very least send one of them with her (Gepetto tricked them for his own selfish aims). If they hadn't - Regina would have raised Emma. Seriously there's no way that Regina would have let Mary Margaret and David have Emma. That's my problem with that piece of storyline. Emma should be intelligent enough to know who blame here. Just as Henry shouldn't blame Emma, he should blame his father and Pinnochio for what happened - but I willing to give Henry a pass for being 11 and not knowing the whole story. Anyhow it's a small quibble, emotions are admittedly not rational things. And people have a tendency to blame their parents for a whole host of things that their parents had no control over. But it does annoy me that Emma is more forgiving of Gepetto and Pinnochio. )
More to the point, Pan informs Emma that Henry hasn't forgiven her either. And by the time she reaches Henry - he'll never want to leave Neverland and see himself as an orphan, and by that time, she'll have nothing - worse, she'll actually be an orphan too.
To emphasize Pan's point - we see Charming with a scratch that is beginning to look rather infected. Turns out he lied to Snow White - he did get scratched. Not just his shirt.
There are a few wild cards in Pan's plan. Captain Hook for one thing - Hook knows Pan and knows the island, and has a real soft spot for Emma. Hook appears to be falling for Emma. (Note: I don't believe the affection is returned, Emma's focused solely on Henry. And she may be a lot of things, but Emma is not a romantic. She trusts Hook in regards to Neverland though.) I liked their exchange about Peter Pan. Hook informs Emma that Pan is the most treacherous villain that he's ever faced, that he's not a kid - he's a demon. (Little boys at that age often are demons.)
Emma responds that in the stories Pan was the good guy, Hook was the villain. He asks how he was portrayed, was he handsome? She states that it all depends on how you feel about perms and wax mustaches. Hook states somewhat bewildered, I'm guessing perms are a bad thing? (IT's notable that in Barrie's version Hook was a dashing and handsome rogue pirate.]
The other two wild cards are Regina - who Peter Pan has never really encountered. (Although according to previews...I'm guessing someone else on Neverland has.) And Rumplestilskin.
Rumple apparently has the same ability as Pan to separate his shadow from his body and survive.
Since he sends his shadow off to hide the dagger that contains the source of his power and is the only way to kill him. And to hide it from everyone, including himself. He also somehow summons a vision of Belle to comfort himself. The Rumple/Belle romance does not work for me - Belle grates on my ever-living nerves. But, here it makes sense. It provides Rumple with someone to talk to and she basically gives him a pep talk just as Mary Margaret attempts to do with Emma. With Regina spouting venom in everyone's ear and degrading Emma at every turn...it does help to have Snow White around to counter it. Bell also manages to tell Rumple that he needs to let go of the past.
Let go of what his father did to him and what he did to Baelfire. He's not his father, and he's no longer the man who abandoned and betrayed Baelfire. He's changed.
Similar to what Emma and Henry have to do - let go of their past, forgive and let go of it.
The Peter Pan story is in part about letting go of the past, letting go of the pangs of childhood. Of the parents who hurt, betrayed, or abandoned you. Not to dwell on it forever. To stop running away from it.
So Rumple attempts to do just that - throw away the doll which symbolizes his relationship with his father. But he can't. It keeps falling into his path. He throws it off a cliff. He burns it.
But it keeps coming back to him. Finally he gives up and pockets the damn thing.
Regina's problem is she thinks she can magic her way out of anything. Doesn't trust a soul. And thinks everyone is an idiot. She's not quite as arrogant as Rumple though, she sticks with the group and seems to believe they have to work together. But Regina isn't very good at team work.
And argues continuously with Hook (I don't see a budding romance there, folks. They don't like or trust each other.). She's used to short-cuts and cheating. Hook tries to warn her - there's no short-cuts with the diabolical Pan and you can't break his rules or cheat. But she does anyway - leading the gang into an ambush, where David gets wounded.
But, she is a definite wild card - in that she too cares deeply about Henry and will do anything to get him out of Neverland.
The B story thread - which is Snow White and Prince Charming fighting the Evil Queen to regain their kingdom in FTL, before Emma's birth is used mainly to discuss Emma's. Mary Margaret didn't believe in herself, in who she was, she'd lost herself - so Charming tricks her - she pulls a sword out of a stone - only a true leader can do it. Buying into the trick allows her to wound the evil queen and obtain the confidence necessary to go to war with her. Rumplestilskin gave Charming the idea, and also breaks the news to Snow that it was a trick. She confronts Charming and he tells her - does it matter? You are the leader, and it worked - it was about getting you to believe, to see who you are.
Mary Margaret is faced with a similar struggle with her daughter - Emma. She has to find a way to get Emma to no longer see herself as a lost abandoned little girl but as a hero and leader who has a family. She attempts to get Emma to call her Mom again and not the more formal Mary Margaret.
But Emma says it feels too awkward and just can't. In the previous episode, Charming and Snow attempted to get Emma to take their advice as her parents - to learn from their experience, but she pointed out to them that they are the same age and have the same level of experience.
And on various occasions she attempts to bolster Emma - telling her she is the hero, not to give up, to perservere, etc. But Emma just shrugs her off.
Finally, she has a quiet chat and she gets Emma to open up to her. Really open up. And Emma explains why she couldn't kill or hurt the Lost Boy, because the despair in his eyes she recognized in her own. She understood it. She remembered what it was like to be alone and lost in the foster care system. To cry herself to sleep every night wondering why her parents abandoned her. Why she was alone. Mary Margaret states...that by the time she found them and they were reunited it was too late. Emma still sees herself as that lost little girl - as an orphan. That's her she perceives herself to be. Here, she's that lost little girl. All the bravado is ripped away.
Snow White/Mary Margaret states that it is her job to change her mind - to convince her daughter that this is not true - that she is not an orphan. That's her task, her challenge.
And she's going to have to fight Peter Pan to do it. As Emma must equally fight Pan.
No sight of Baelfire, Henry or Storybrook this week. All the focus was on Rumple and our merry band of rescuers. I wish they'd reunite Rumple with the others - mainly because I miss the interactions. Having him wander about alone in the forest communing with visions like Belle, isn't nearly as entertaining as having him exchange quips with everyone else. Regina on the other hand is giving me a headache, very whiny.
[Sorry for the double-posting on LJ earlier, but the dang thing is acting up.]
Peter Pan has gone after Henry and Emma Swan - because they are orphans who refuse to except that they are either orphans or abandoned. Yet, deep down both have not forgiven their parents for the abandonment. He's playing similar games with Rumplestilskin who abandoned Baelfire just as his father once abandoned him. The doll is not the doll that Stilskin gave Baelfire but rather the doll that his father made for him. Rumple's issues much like Regina's go back to his own parents and his inability to forgive them. If last season focused on Regina's mommy issues, this season is focusing even more on Rumplestilskin's daddy issues.
Pan himself is a rather fascinating villain. Far more interesting than some of our previous villains. For the question remains what motivates him and is he really a villain? He likes games.
Is a mischief maker. And enjoys sowing seeds of doubt. When he first confronts Emma - he points out that she's the only one who woke up, the only one who heard the crying - why is that? Then devises a game for her to find Henry. He'll even help her - by providing a map. But in order to read it - she must admit who she really is. Emma assumes it is to admit she's the savior (as Rumplestilskin, Henry and her parents keep pressing her to admit.) Interestingly enough - what Pan wanted Emma to admit to was not that she was a hero or savior, but rather a lost little girl - an orphan. And it's odd that it is her mother that presses her to admit it. Once she does - the map appears.
When Emma confronts Pan again - he tells her that at heart she is a "lost little girl". That she has never forgiven her parents for abandoning her. (Personally I see this as displaced blame - the people truly responsible for Emma's separation from her parents are Gepetto, Regina, and Rumplestilskin, not Snow and Charming - who tried everything possible to keep them together. They didn't abandon her - they attempted to save her and they'd intended to go with her or at the very least send one of them with her (Gepetto tricked them for his own selfish aims). If they hadn't - Regina would have raised Emma. Seriously there's no way that Regina would have let Mary Margaret and David have Emma. That's my problem with that piece of storyline. Emma should be intelligent enough to know who blame here. Just as Henry shouldn't blame Emma, he should blame his father and Pinnochio for what happened - but I willing to give Henry a pass for being 11 and not knowing the whole story. Anyhow it's a small quibble, emotions are admittedly not rational things. And people have a tendency to blame their parents for a whole host of things that their parents had no control over. But it does annoy me that Emma is more forgiving of Gepetto and Pinnochio. )
More to the point, Pan informs Emma that Henry hasn't forgiven her either. And by the time she reaches Henry - he'll never want to leave Neverland and see himself as an orphan, and by that time, she'll have nothing - worse, she'll actually be an orphan too.
To emphasize Pan's point - we see Charming with a scratch that is beginning to look rather infected. Turns out he lied to Snow White - he did get scratched. Not just his shirt.
There are a few wild cards in Pan's plan. Captain Hook for one thing - Hook knows Pan and knows the island, and has a real soft spot for Emma. Hook appears to be falling for Emma. (Note: I don't believe the affection is returned, Emma's focused solely on Henry. And she may be a lot of things, but Emma is not a romantic. She trusts Hook in regards to Neverland though.) I liked their exchange about Peter Pan. Hook informs Emma that Pan is the most treacherous villain that he's ever faced, that he's not a kid - he's a demon. (Little boys at that age often are demons.)
Emma responds that in the stories Pan was the good guy, Hook was the villain. He asks how he was portrayed, was he handsome? She states that it all depends on how you feel about perms and wax mustaches. Hook states somewhat bewildered, I'm guessing perms are a bad thing? (IT's notable that in Barrie's version Hook was a dashing and handsome rogue pirate.]
The other two wild cards are Regina - who Peter Pan has never really encountered. (Although according to previews...I'm guessing someone else on Neverland has.) And Rumplestilskin.
Rumple apparently has the same ability as Pan to separate his shadow from his body and survive.
Since he sends his shadow off to hide the dagger that contains the source of his power and is the only way to kill him. And to hide it from everyone, including himself. He also somehow summons a vision of Belle to comfort himself. The Rumple/Belle romance does not work for me - Belle grates on my ever-living nerves. But, here it makes sense. It provides Rumple with someone to talk to and she basically gives him a pep talk just as Mary Margaret attempts to do with Emma. With Regina spouting venom in everyone's ear and degrading Emma at every turn...it does help to have Snow White around to counter it. Bell also manages to tell Rumple that he needs to let go of the past.
Let go of what his father did to him and what he did to Baelfire. He's not his father, and he's no longer the man who abandoned and betrayed Baelfire. He's changed.
Similar to what Emma and Henry have to do - let go of their past, forgive and let go of it.
The Peter Pan story is in part about letting go of the past, letting go of the pangs of childhood. Of the parents who hurt, betrayed, or abandoned you. Not to dwell on it forever. To stop running away from it.
So Rumple attempts to do just that - throw away the doll which symbolizes his relationship with his father. But he can't. It keeps falling into his path. He throws it off a cliff. He burns it.
But it keeps coming back to him. Finally he gives up and pockets the damn thing.
Regina's problem is she thinks she can magic her way out of anything. Doesn't trust a soul. And thinks everyone is an idiot. She's not quite as arrogant as Rumple though, she sticks with the group and seems to believe they have to work together. But Regina isn't very good at team work.
And argues continuously with Hook (I don't see a budding romance there, folks. They don't like or trust each other.). She's used to short-cuts and cheating. Hook tries to warn her - there's no short-cuts with the diabolical Pan and you can't break his rules or cheat. But she does anyway - leading the gang into an ambush, where David gets wounded.
But, she is a definite wild card - in that she too cares deeply about Henry and will do anything to get him out of Neverland.
The B story thread - which is Snow White and Prince Charming fighting the Evil Queen to regain their kingdom in FTL, before Emma's birth is used mainly to discuss Emma's. Mary Margaret didn't believe in herself, in who she was, she'd lost herself - so Charming tricks her - she pulls a sword out of a stone - only a true leader can do it. Buying into the trick allows her to wound the evil queen and obtain the confidence necessary to go to war with her. Rumplestilskin gave Charming the idea, and also breaks the news to Snow that it was a trick. She confronts Charming and he tells her - does it matter? You are the leader, and it worked - it was about getting you to believe, to see who you are.
Mary Margaret is faced with a similar struggle with her daughter - Emma. She has to find a way to get Emma to no longer see herself as a lost abandoned little girl but as a hero and leader who has a family. She attempts to get Emma to call her Mom again and not the more formal Mary Margaret.
But Emma says it feels too awkward and just can't. In the previous episode, Charming and Snow attempted to get Emma to take their advice as her parents - to learn from their experience, but she pointed out to them that they are the same age and have the same level of experience.
And on various occasions she attempts to bolster Emma - telling her she is the hero, not to give up, to perservere, etc. But Emma just shrugs her off.
Finally, she has a quiet chat and she gets Emma to open up to her. Really open up. And Emma explains why she couldn't kill or hurt the Lost Boy, because the despair in his eyes she recognized in her own. She understood it. She remembered what it was like to be alone and lost in the foster care system. To cry herself to sleep every night wondering why her parents abandoned her. Why she was alone. Mary Margaret states...that by the time she found them and they were reunited it was too late. Emma still sees herself as that lost little girl - as an orphan. That's her she perceives herself to be. Here, she's that lost little girl. All the bravado is ripped away.
Snow White/Mary Margaret states that it is her job to change her mind - to convince her daughter that this is not true - that she is not an orphan. That's her task, her challenge.
And she's going to have to fight Peter Pan to do it. As Emma must equally fight Pan.
No sight of Baelfire, Henry or Storybrook this week. All the focus was on Rumple and our merry band of rescuers. I wish they'd reunite Rumple with the others - mainly because I miss the interactions. Having him wander about alone in the forest communing with visions like Belle, isn't nearly as entertaining as having him exchange quips with everyone else. Regina on the other hand is giving me a headache, very whiny.