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Watched Game of Thrones tonight, am caught up now. It was better than I expected. I confess that I'm not a fan of war scenes either in movies or books, they tend to bore me. And I find them hard to follow for various reasons. This one wasn't that bad - and I was rather relieved that the only monsters we saw were the mammoths and giants - I remember there being giant ice spiders in the books. (I remember because when they revealed that this was being turned into a television series - the first thing that came to mind is - please don't do the giant spiders, I don't think they are necessary. Mammoths yes, spiders no.)

Can't remember how it played out in the books exactly...except
that I think Ygritte died climbing the wall? Also, does Jon Snow go and find Mance Ryder in the books or did Stannis show up? I know Stannis shows up and ironically saves the day - although, I'm on the fence as to whether he saves it or makes everything worse. As was Jon Snow, I suspect. Stannis is not a good guy. Not that anyone really is in this series, but Stannis has a thing for burning people alive to amuse his priestess and her god.

* Jon Snow has grown on me. I'm sort of enjoying the character for a change. He annoyed me in the books - here, he's a bit less brooding and more forthright. And his final scene with Ygritte was well played.

* Samwell Tarly continues to be a favorite. Adored his scenes and found him to be the most interesting, which was in keeping with the books - actually. Samwell - in the books -was the only one at the WALL that I found interesting. Although, I think he is shown to be a bit stronger here than he was in the novels, or I like him better for some reason. Gilly - I imagined as being softer and warmer somehow?

* Favorite scenes were with Samwell - specifically the Maester Aemon scene, and the Jon Snow/Samwell scenes. Also, the most touching was Pyp's death.

Date: 2014-06-11 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophist.livejournal.com
They modified the books in a couple of subtle but important ways. First, the Wildlings failed in the assault on Castle Black because Jon Snow set an ambush for them. Ygritte was killed in that ambush; Jon found her dying when the fighting was over. Second, Jon didn't voluntarily go out to find Mance. Thorne and Slynt ordered him to do it because they wanted to kill him.

As for Stannis, yes he shows up. Not sure if they'll show that next Sunday or wait till next year. They have a lot of plot lines holding right now (Tyrion, Stannis, Bran, Arya, possibly Lady Stoneheart).

Date: 2014-06-11 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
Thanks! I do remember her sort of dying - in the background. Here they made her death more personal and more traumatic, when in the books her death - well it reminded me a little of Anya's death in BTVS Chosen.

Probably wait until next season to have Stannis show up, since they haven't laid the ground work for it yet - and there just is not enough time in the finale.

The finale has a lot to do - Tyrion's arc being the big one. I'm wondering if Lady Stoneheart will be the last scene, like it was in the books? Except they haven't laid the ground-work for it either quite yet - Arya's dream about Nymeria laid the ground-work for Lady Stoneheart in the books. They'll probably change it.

Date: 2014-06-11 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophist.livejournal.com
There's been a LOT of speculation about LS. Some think they won't do it at all (pointing to the lack of ground work). Some say it's a surprise. I guess we'll find out Sunday night.

The comparison of Ygritte and Anya is a good one.

Date: 2014-06-12 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
I'd be surprised if they didn't do it. These writers like the sadistic stuff. And LS is a big deal. I mean - that would be akin to not doing the Red Wedding.

Date: 2014-06-12 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophist.livejournal.com
My guess is that they'll do it, but I'm disappointed at the lack of ground work via Arya (and they should include Jon Snow, for that matter, when it comes to showing that particular talent).

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