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shadowkatToo many tv shows, plus Netflix and Amazon, not enough time...
Anyhow, watched the premiere of Riverdale. What is Riverdale about, well...it's
Twin Peaks
Meets..
Archie Comics and Josie and the Pussycats (which did a bunch of cartoons in the 1960s, that I watched as a kid in the 1970s, and have a vague memory of..., the comics, I never read.)
I kid you now, it literally is Twin Peaks meets Archie Comics. We have all the kids from Archie Comics transposed into Twin Peaks.
So far, sort of entertaining. Held my attention. Few things do these days. Although Archie's makeup is distracting me. The makeup artist is overdoing the furrowed brow and heavy eyebrows. Also, I can tell they died the actors hair bright red. Other than that, I am entertained, particularly by a 50 something Luke Perry and Madchen Amick.
Have to say, Riverdale improves on the 1960 era Archie cartoons. And the mash up sort of works. Not perfect, by a long shot, a bit too quippy in places, and I'm not sure certain things quite work.
But it does for the most part avoid cliche, and the Betty/Archie/Veronica love triangle is sort of killed before it starts. Archie's too busy swooning over and banging his music teacher to care.
Although Veronica obviously intrigues him.
The Twin Peaks twist on each character is rather intriguing. Although, I more or less figured out the plot points before they happened, it did have a few nice surprises here and there. Betty's mother, who is obsessed with perfection and somewhat bullying. And Veronica's poor little rich girl, who Dad is facing embezzlement charges. While Jughead narrates the affair, typing away on a computer at Pops. Meanwhile Josie and Pussycats are an African-American Power Trio Band, with a statement, also the daughter of the mayor. Reggie is a bit of an asshole football player, and Moose - in the closet, homosexual, involved with the Sheriff's son, whose Betty's best bud. Meanwhile there's a dead body in the river, this round a boy's -- a nice change of pace that. And ...it appears, his sultry twin sister did it. OR did she? That's the kids, the parents have their own...issues.
There's a bit of Beverly Hills 90210 and the O/C thrown in there for good measure. But mostly it's just Twin Peaks meets Archie Comics.
Anyhow, watched the premiere of Riverdale. What is Riverdale about, well...it's
Twin Peaks
Meets..
Archie Comics and Josie and the Pussycats (which did a bunch of cartoons in the 1960s, that I watched as a kid in the 1970s, and have a vague memory of..., the comics, I never read.)
I kid you now, it literally is Twin Peaks meets Archie Comics. We have all the kids from Archie Comics transposed into Twin Peaks.
So far, sort of entertaining. Held my attention. Few things do these days. Although Archie's makeup is distracting me. The makeup artist is overdoing the furrowed brow and heavy eyebrows. Also, I can tell they died the actors hair bright red. Other than that, I am entertained, particularly by a 50 something Luke Perry and Madchen Amick.
Have to say, Riverdale improves on the 1960 era Archie cartoons. And the mash up sort of works. Not perfect, by a long shot, a bit too quippy in places, and I'm not sure certain things quite work.
But it does for the most part avoid cliche, and the Betty/Archie/Veronica love triangle is sort of killed before it starts. Archie's too busy swooning over and banging his music teacher to care.
Although Veronica obviously intrigues him.
The Twin Peaks twist on each character is rather intriguing. Although, I more or less figured out the plot points before they happened, it did have a few nice surprises here and there. Betty's mother, who is obsessed with perfection and somewhat bullying. And Veronica's poor little rich girl, who Dad is facing embezzlement charges. While Jughead narrates the affair, typing away on a computer at Pops. Meanwhile Josie and Pussycats are an African-American Power Trio Band, with a statement, also the daughter of the mayor. Reggie is a bit of an asshole football player, and Moose - in the closet, homosexual, involved with the Sheriff's son, whose Betty's best bud. Meanwhile there's a dead body in the river, this round a boy's -- a nice change of pace that. And ...it appears, his sultry twin sister did it. OR did she? That's the kids, the parents have their own...issues.
There's a bit of Beverly Hills 90210 and the O/C thrown in there for good measure. But mostly it's just Twin Peaks meets Archie Comics.
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Date: 2017-02-10 03:38 pm (UTC)I agree about the gun shot. I think the key issue is establishing time of death but as you say, there are various reasons a gun might have been fired. And given the way the last episode ended it seems likely that the irrelevancy of what they heard will be made clear.
Also, if Grundy is frantic about Archie turning up at her house, practically kissing in her music room so that Jughead can see them seems rather careless.
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Date: 2017-02-11 04:49 am (UTC)I think NY is more lax on the law than California is. Although I can't remember. There was a huge scandal a while back with a teacher and a teenage boy, but the boy was like 14 or 15, not 17. 17 year old boys and 17 year old girls, can come across much older. And technically speaking are adults, they've passed puberty. And a lot of kids graduate high school at 17. Which...makes him being a sophmore seem rather odd. I graduated high school at 18. I was a spring birthday. The kids who graduated at 17 were fall birthdays. But if he's 17, wouldn't he be a junior at least? I remember the age, because Betty made a point of it -- they had both turned 17 and shouldn't they get together? (I'm not sure why she thought 17 was the magical age for becoming a couple...which was why it stuck out. Because it was another point in the episode, in which I was thrown out of the story. Wait, you think you can become a couple at 17? Wait, are you sophmores or juniors? I'm confused.)
My mother told me a story about how one of her classmates married her high school English teacher right after she graduated. And, when I was in school, some of our teachers were in the early twenties, right out of college, so just about two or three years older if that. (In the series Buffy, the actors who played Willow, Xander, Cordelia and Jonathan were all in their early and mid-twenties, while Gellar was 17. So, that may give you an idea. Carpenter was about five to six years older than Gellar. She'd graduated from college and been a Lakers Cheerleader.)
And I'm guessing Grundy is probably in her twenties? Hard to tell.
Must been hard to go to college at 16, and go through high school at 12-15....my cousin ended up doing the same thing, and it did not go well. Of course he was also bi-polar, so... I found high school hellish enough graduating from it at 18. I think I was 18. I was a spring birthday. Can't remember.
Also, if Grundy is frantic about Archie turning up at her house, practically kissing in her music room so that Jughead can see them seems rather careless.
I agree. Also contrived. But I knew they were going to do that, when she said to meet her at 7 AM for music lessons.
She obviously has the hots for him -- I can see why, he's hot. But you'd think she'd be a bit more careful about it, particularly since it is a small town.
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Date: 2017-02-11 06:48 pm (UTC)Actually Sarah was 19 but younger, yes, especially compared to Charisma.
No, my age didn't really make any difference -- except it meant I got out of school sooner ;) I pretty much finished growing at 12 so the real difference came more in 3rd and 4th grades not later. I think it would be harder for boys because their growth spurts tend to come later and make more of a difference for things like sports activities. (One area where I guess Archie's changes do make more sense since the sophomore year generally is key to that -- plus the whole thing about JV vs varsity teams)
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Date: 2017-02-12 07:28 pm (UTC)So at 16, he was about 5'8. At 18 - he was 6'5. I was 6 foot at 13. 5'8 in the 5th grade. So...think about that for a minute. I towered over everyone from the age of 8 to well...now. My mother remembers teachers telling me that I was on the wrong recess field and should be with the older kids. Did work well in regards to getting into clubs though in college. I looked like I was 21. When everyone else looked like they were 16. I remember people meeting him and thinking, whoa.
So yeah, it makes a big difference. Like it or not we are a shallow species, who cares more about what is on the outside than the inside -- so if someone stands out physically they get ruthlessly teased. If they don't...not so much. I have a friend who had the same problem, she was 6 foot at the age of 12. No one else was.
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The whole 17 thing also rather contradicts Archie's story to Veronica about Betty telling him to ask her to marry him again once they're grown up. Unless she figured they should date a little first, who knows. Like you said about the music room, contrived.
I think the writers want their cake and eat it too -- it's creepy if he is younger than 17 and having an affair with the teacher. But at the same time, they want to go with the whole high school bit...
It's a flaw. They should just let them be seniors, and on the cusp of graduating, and get out of the high school scene as fast as possible.
{I need to start using reading glasses when I type these posts...or find a way to increase the font size.)