GoT Episode 8..4 - Game of Thrones

[shadowkat]

Great episode, except for one thing...



They killed another dragon. Honestly, I do not care if they kill all the humans, I want the dragons to survive.

If they don't kill off Greyjoy in the next episode, I'm going to be annoyed.

Also beginning to think Jamie may kill Cersei after all -- although I think it's a better twist if Ayra kills Jamie and does it, or Ayra kills Garren and does it.

Brienne: Don't leave stay with me, Jamie. You're a good man.
Jamie: No, I'm really not. (lists all the hateful things he's done for Cersei, then leaves.)

ME: Brienne, seriously, you chose the wrong guy. Again. There was a perfectly good wildling man who liked you.

Honestly it was hard to care. We all knew he'd leave for King's Landing eventually.
And I can't say I was shipping Brienne and Jamie..actually I was sort of shocked by it. Seemed sort of out of character for both of them. I was shipping Brienne with the wildling guy. Thank god - they chose not to show us their sex scenes. I'm guessing the actors have a nudity clause in their contracts? Also is it just me or are all the sex scenes somewhat awkward this season...and subdued?

Dany: Don't tell anyone you are my nephew. We'll be fine.
Jon: I don't know if I can do that.
Dany: You'll ruin us.
Jon: Oh, I can trust my sisters.
Dany: Not Sansa.

Dany is not dumb. Jon however...

Ghost will survive -- thank you, Jon for sending Ghost with the wildlings, wise move.

I adored Tyrion and Varys' discussion. They aren't wrong. But I do wish that not all the strong female characters in this story were a wee bit on the deranged side, and worshipped at the altar of the vengeance god, so heavily.

I do however agree with Varys -- give the power to the person who does not want it.
Never give it to one who does.

Oh dear, half of King's Landing is going to burn in the next episode, I also think, Greyjoy will lose his fleet. I know Dany and company will win, because they lost the first battle. It's going to go down pretty much the same way the Night King battle did -- with the Starks taking out Cersei.

Comments

[rogin]

Emilia Clarke doesn't have a nudity clause and never has. That's an internet rumor based on a misunderstanding of what a different actress said.

I didn't know that, thank you. Is there some other reason, why they undressed her all the time in the first season and then stopped?

[mefisto]

In the books, Dany was naked and having sex a LOT in book 1. The show actually understated that. In later seasons, they cut back on the nudity generally, not just for her, but Dany still had nude scenes: think her bath scene with Daario (S4) or her destruction of the Khals (S6E4).

As for the scene with Jon, one never knows exactly what considerations go into a scene like that, but in this case there may have been personal issues. Emilia is a very good friend of Rose Leslie, then Kit Harington's fiancé and now his wife. A full on sex scene probably would have been personally awkward.

Kristen Bell tells a great story along these lines. She had to get married in the morning because she was filming later in the day. At the end of the ceremony, she turned to her maid of honor, thanked her, and then said "now I'm going to go have fake sex with your husband".

[rogin]

Dany has sex in the later books too. There is her in between husband that they wrote out in the show. There is lots of Daario.

I think it was a decision of the show not to go that explicit with her again. The later scenes were done much more moderately. Maybe also because they needed the character command respect and that didn't work with the way they are doing sex scenes on this show.

[shadowkat]

The sex scenes tended to diminish in number in the latter seasons. The book did have a lot more nudity and sex for Dany, in part because of where she was located and that culture -- I found it annoying in the books and series. Cersei also has more sex and nudity in the books and series. BTW-- Lena Headly who portrays Cersei was the one with the nudity clause in her contract. They used body doubles for all of her nude scenes.

I'm wondering about Kit Harrington -- and how much of it is due to his contract? Although that explanation makes sense. The major characters they've not shown much of it on, interestingly enough.

The writers and network got a lot of push-back on both "torture" and "graphic sex" by the media -- which most likely prompted the decision.