GoT Episode 8..4 - Game of Thrones

[shadowkat]

Great episode, except for one thing...



They killed another dragon. Honestly, I do not care if they kill all the humans, I want the dragons to survive.

If they don't kill off Greyjoy in the next episode, I'm going to be annoyed.

Also beginning to think Jamie may kill Cersei after all -- although I think it's a better twist if Ayra kills Jamie and does it, or Ayra kills Garren and does it.

Brienne: Don't leave stay with me, Jamie. You're a good man.
Jamie: No, I'm really not. (lists all the hateful things he's done for Cersei, then leaves.)

ME: Brienne, seriously, you chose the wrong guy. Again. There was a perfectly good wildling man who liked you.

Honestly it was hard to care. We all knew he'd leave for King's Landing eventually.
And I can't say I was shipping Brienne and Jamie..actually I was sort of shocked by it. Seemed sort of out of character for both of them. I was shipping Brienne with the wildling guy. Thank god - they chose not to show us their sex scenes. I'm guessing the actors have a nudity clause in their contracts? Also is it just me or are all the sex scenes somewhat awkward this season...and subdued?

Dany: Don't tell anyone you are my nephew. We'll be fine.
Jon: I don't know if I can do that.
Dany: You'll ruin us.
Jon: Oh, I can trust my sisters.
Dany: Not Sansa.

Dany is not dumb. Jon however...

Ghost will survive -- thank you, Jon for sending Ghost with the wildlings, wise move.

I adored Tyrion and Varys' discussion. They aren't wrong. But I do wish that not all the strong female characters in this story were a wee bit on the deranged side, and worshipped at the altar of the vengeance god, so heavily.

I do however agree with Varys -- give the power to the person who does not want it.
Never give it to one who does.

Oh dear, half of King's Landing is going to burn in the next episode, I also think, Greyjoy will lose his fleet. I know Dany and company will win, because they lost the first battle. It's going to go down pretty much the same way the Night King battle did -- with the Starks taking out Cersei.

Comments

[promethia_tenk]

I think I'm exactly the right amount of invested in this show right now, because the internet appears to be in flames about this episode and I thought it was a great time. I mean, the seams in the writing are still painfully visible due to the need to rush to the ending, but at least they've gone back to giving us the kinds of atmospheric and character scenes they've always been best at. I will overlook a lot of plot stupidity for that whole banquet sequence.

Also beginning to think Jamie may kill Cersei after all -- although I think it's a better twist if Ayra kills Jamie and does it, or Ayra kills Garren and does it.
I've decided I don't want him to, just because it would be backsliding for his character. That wouldn't be closure, it would just be more damage? That said, I'm looking forward to the show flirting with it.

Also is it just me or are all the sex scenes somewhat awkward this season...and subdued?
You're not wrong, but I've been rewatching the show here since I'm paying for HBO and might as well make the most of it and I will 100% take it over the stupidly gratuitous sexposition of the early seasons.

I adored Tyrion and Varys' discussion. They aren't wrong.
I WAS SO HAPPY ABOUT THIS SCENE. It was like Classic Thrones was back on the menu and I am here for it. Give me all the political machinations please and thank you.

I do however agree with Varys -- give the power to the person who does not want it.
Never give it to one who does.
I'm at such a loss about who I want on the Iron Throne. The people who want it shouldn't have it and the people who might do a decent job I would never wish it on them. There's no way this all ends well.

[shadowkat]

Nods...I pretty much agree. I've reached the point in which I'm not really all that invested in the show. I'd like the remaining dragon to survive though, but not counting on it.

I mean, the seams in the writing are still painfully visible due to the need to rush to the ending, but at least they've gone back to giving us the kinds of atmospheric and character scenes they've always been best at. I will overlook a lot of plot stupidity for that whole banquet sequence.

For me it was the Tyrion/Varys scenes, Tyrion/Sansa, Tyrion/Jamie, Tyrion/Jamie/Brienne... I like the character centric bits. Martin is good at characterization, plot not so much. Which is fine for me -- I care more about character than plot anyhow.

I've decided I don't want him to, just because it would be backsliding for his character. That wouldn't be closure, it would just be more damage? That said, I'm looking forward to the show flirting with it.

Agreed. It doesn't work characterwise. Seems out of character somehow. No, I think Ayra will most likely be the one who kills her posing as someone else...or Cersei will kill herself. One or the other. I don't see either of her brothers doing it. (Even though the books made a big deal out of Tyrion or Jamie killing her -- with all this prophecy stuff --- but none of that has made it into the television series, at least not that I remember...The series also left out the whole subplot about Lady Stoneheart and Brienne taking Jamie to her -- to get revenge.)

I'm at such a loss about who I want on the Iron Throne. The people who want it shouldn't have it and the people who might do a decent job I would never wish it on them. There's no way this all ends well.

I think no one getting it works best or the remaining dragon. Good luck pushing that dragon off the throne. ;-)